A Navy SEAL Briefly Discusses His View on Knives

Nullity said:
If I ever need a knife for cutting up old mattresses, I know what to choose.

and yeah, of course fixed blades are the only choice when reliability is important.
By the way, I love when people think a knife like the Emerson Rhino is anything but a fantasy knife.
Ya know what is really black-ops awesome, the noise of a linerlock engaging in the dead of night. Good job ninja assassin. ;)
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But it's black and it has nice writing on the blade....and nothing, nothing beats the wave....:confused::D
 
singularity35 said:
But it's black and it has nice writing on the blade....and nothing, nothing beats the wave....:confused::D
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I hadn't really considered it from the enemy's perspective. It would be embarrassing to be dispatched with a simple Army issued bayonet.
but to be snuffed out with a tactical, special edition, custom, serrated spine, needle tipped, wave equipped, Teflon coated, $5000 Emerson Rhino... that would be an honor. ;)
 
What is a knife to a soldier? His main weapon is his rifle for which the military issues him many thousands of rounds in order that he becomes proficient in its use.

A knife is just a tool for cutting, perhaps in extreme circumstances it might be used for stabbing but that situation should never happen because he has a gun. Something small and cheap enough that doesn't take up too much space in his kit, and doesn't care if it gets lost or broken is all he needs. Pragmatism is, in my opinion, the driving motivation of everything a soldier carries.

If a cheap fixed blade clipped to his vest will do the job, he's not going to be concerned with looking for anything else. It's highly likely it'd never be used anyway.
 
Freman Bloodglaive said:
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If a cheap fixed blade clipped to his vest will do the job, he's not going to be concerned with looking for anything else. It's highly likely it'd never be used anyway.
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It's highly unlikely to be used in melee combat, sure, but there are many daily utility uses for a decent fixed blade or folder for soldiers just like there are for civilians, maybe more. It doesn't have to be expensive because it's likely to get lost or broken but having something that holds an edge and is of a decent quality is what the soldiers I know look for.
 
Having served for a number of years and in a couple of hot zones, not a navy guy but the issue blades weren't really good for nothing, team members might have bottomless budgets and get the best gear but regular old ground pounders usually got what they could afford, never seen a 600 knife until I was civilian. Had many break, although extremely hard use definitely not what an average blade is designed for. I would have to agree with fixed over folder in a hard use situation. I've personally had sand foul the pivot in more than one folder in the pocket, once I got a coin stuck in an otf. 1st and last time for that.
 
singularity35 said:
But it's black and it has nice writing on the blade....and nothing, nothing beats the wave....:confused::D
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Nullity said:
I hadn't really considered it from the enemy's perspective. It would be embarrassing to be dispatched with a simple Army issued bayonet.
but to be snuffed out with a tactical, special edition, custom, serrated spine, needle tipped, wave equipped, Teflon coated, $5000 Emerson Rhino... that would be an honor. ;)
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Now you guys are just being ridiculous!

... the Rhino doesn't have a wave;):D

-sh00ter
 
For me it really doesn't matter. If a seal was coming at me with a Randall Bowie or a case peanut with half the blade broke I'd still be a lil concerned with my future health status.
 
FarmKid said:
For me it really doesn't matter. If a seal was coming at me with a Randall Bowie or a case peanut with half the blade broke I'd still be a lil concerned with my future health status.
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You still don't get it, it's not about the SEAL's skills, it's about his qualifications to pick a good knife. Doesn't matter if it's good enough for him, it probably not good enough for a knifenut. Now if the point were about how good a SEAL is at killing...
 
So a during a seals training they get some sort of training on picking a knife? I mean I don't know what there training is besides what's in a book or on tv. A knife nut is not any different than a gun nut, car nut, or a tool snob. What important to one maybe isn't that important to another. I think everybody that's knife a knife enthusiast wishes or hopes that special forces carries what they think the carry. Look at there gear they use. Most is issued. I bet their packs, boots, clothes, or what ever else they use isn't the best out there. Is their ammo custom reloaded or what ever Uncle Sam gives them. Their training and mind set is what sets them apart. So quit hoping they carry zero tolerances and a custom Randall and accept that our finest warriors may not be into knives.
 
FarmKid said:
So a during a seals training they get some sort of training on picking a knife? I mean I don't know what there training is besides what's in a book or on tv. A knife nut is not any different than a gun nut, car nut, or a tool snob. What important to one maybe isn't that important to another. I think everybody that's knife a knife enthusiast wishes or hopes that special forces carries what they think the carry. Look at there gear they use. Most is issued. I bet their packs, boots, clothes, or what ever else they use isn't the best out there. Is their ammo custom reloaded or what ever Uncle Sam gives them. Their training and mind set is what sets them apart. So quit hoping they carry zero tolerances and a custom Randall and accept that our finest warriors may not be into knives.
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LOL, that is precisely the point. Probably why a knife nut shouldn't get knife advice from SEAL's.

Took you some time to get to that, didn't it? :)
 
I knew what the point was from the start of the thread. Just it seemed to me that everyone was shocked that this seal chose a SOG knife. After searching the knives he talked about, the knives where the better quality SOG's. Then it seemed everyone was shocked bc it was a mainstream knife. Ask any non-knife person that a navy seal chose a SOG knife to use in combat and see how long they get it.
 
FarmKid said:
I knew what the point was from the start of the thread. Just it seemed to me that everyone was shocked that this seal chose a SOG knife. After searching the knives he talked about, the knives where the better quality SOG's. Then it seemed everyone was shocked bc it was a mainstream knife.
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I don't think they were shocked at the SEAL's choice. They just took issue with it being called "the best".

FarmKid said:
Ask any non-knife person that a navy seal chose a SOG knife to use in combat and see how long they get it.
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Huh?
 
What is the best? The knives that u like are they the best. Knives that cost 800$ are they the best? I've seen a Becker out do a bark river. Will a gerber paraframe cut an apple and open the mail the same as a CRK? Most of this stems from a bunch of pencil pushing weekend survivalists saying that if u don't carry a 1000$ custom bushcraft knife then u dont know knives. I don't know different steel types or the proper way to put a bevel on a machete to cut a survival apple. The whole point of the thread is that people actually thought seals was suppose to be knife gurus or used high end knives. I hate to bust your bubble but knives are tools!! How did the Veterans from WW2 ever make it without their busse and CRK.
 
FarmKid said:
What is the best? The knives that u like are they the best. Knives that cost 800$ are they the best? I've seen a Becker out do a bark river. Will a gerber paraframe cut an apple and open the mail the same as a CRK? Most of this stems from a bunch of pencil pushing weekend survivalists saying that if u don't carry a 1000$ custom bushcraft knife then u dont know knives. I don't know different steel types or the proper way to put a bevel on a machete to cut a survival apple. The whole point of the thread is that people actually thought seals was suppose to be knife gurus or used high end knives. I hate to bust your bubble but knives are tools!! How did the Veterans from WW2 ever make it without their busse and CRK.
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You're diverting the issue again. I'm not discussing his knife. I'm discussing what happened in the thread.
 
Wait, I thought the Cold Steel Recon 1 Tanto folder was the official knife of the SEALS :rolleyes:

Fast forward to 24:00 for the knife discussion

[video=youtube;8yb4B7BTkMs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yb4B7BTkMs[/video]
 
Diverting? The whole thread is talking bout military personnel and their knife preference. Most carries a cheaper line of knives and everyone is appalled that military guys mostly carry a cheaper knife than most on here. Who cares if someone carries a better or lesser knife than u. If u like a certain knife or company than carry and use it. I believe that's what the author of the book was stating. He thought that his chosen knife was the best. I'm going to be wrong again bc nobody on here likes SOG or Cold steel bc they think there crap. If u don't agree go get ur sebenza and put a razor popping edge on it and go pick a fight with a spec ops guy then come back and report the out come to us.
 
FarmKid said:
Diverting? The whole thread is talking bout military personnel and their knife preference. Most carries a cheaper line of knives and everyone is appalled that military guys mostly carry a cheaper knife than most on here. Who cares if someone carries a better or lesser knife than u. If u like a certain knife or company than carry and use it. I believe that's what the author of the book was stating. He thought that his chosen knife was the best. I'm going to be wrong again bc nobody on here likes SOG or Cold steel bc they think there crap. If u don't agree go get ur sebenza and put a razor popping edge on it and go pick a fight with a spec ops guy then come back and report the out come to us.
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You still don't get it do you?

Elvis has left the building.
 
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