A New C-44 big Dyad?

As long as Sal is willing to use Micarta without liners, I'm all for it. From posts he has made in the past, I don't know that he will, and as I said before, bulking the knife up by adding liners is a deal breaker for me.
 
Will thread in G10 hold clip screws or thread can be easily stripped?
 
Might buy one and kill the warranty just to see if I could shuffle the parts around to make it lefty friendly. If it works, will buy a second and let someone get even more creative with it. I think brown canvas micarta, polished, would look great.
 
Sal Glesser said:
Hi JD,

It's certainly worth discussion. We need to select some sprints for next year.

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Greetings Mr. Glesser and welcome to the thread. If we are fortunate enough to have the C-44 Dyad for consideration of being re-introed in a Sprint Run then 80% of my prayers have been answered.

As far as handle material I'm going to stick to my guns and hope for maybe a colored Micarta. Albeit if they would decide to go with a G-10 handle I can certainly live with that because that would probably be my second pick.

As far as blade steel VG-10 would be fine by me even though it would be so cool to have a supersteel like ZDP-189 or maybe one of the upper tier Crucible steels would be equally as cool for me as I'm certain others would also agree.

The only change I would like to see in the handle would be to somehow put a lanyard hole or add some type of hardware as a way to utilize a lanyard fpr use in the fishing & shipping industries. The C-44 is truly a great folder to carry and use and I would certainly retire my ATS-55 Dyad if a new one would be reintroduced. But I'm not opposed to any other suggestions anyone would like to come forward with
 
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I am in for a sprint c44. Please keep the knife thin and lightweight. Curious how the clip screw threads in the micarta, g10, or ect, would be addressed. I would suggest brass threaded inserts for the clip screws. Kind of like a Caly Jr, but instead of molded in, maybe press them in from the back side. If the insert had a ridge, or think mushroom shape, this would keep the clip screws from pulling them through. I just think liners would add too much weight. The original was a beautiful design. It would be ashamed to change it much.
I don't reply much on these forums, just mostly read what is going on. This knife deserves a second run though.
 
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randomlooker said:
G-10? Eww. Stick with micarta! Burgundy linen would be lovely.
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IDK. While I wouldn't want to see Spyderco's usual peel ply G-10 on it, and I think a brown or dark green would suit the C44 better, the polished red G-10 on the Sprint Persian looks pretty darn nice to me.

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yablanowitz said:
As long as Sal is willing to use Micarta without liners, I'm all for it. From posts he has made in the past, I don't know that he will, and as I said before, bulking the knife up by adding liners is a deal breaker for me.
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I could be wrong, as I've never had one apart, but I think if they moved the clip about 1/4" closer to the end of the handle so that it covered the pivot screw, and made the screws long enough, it could be screwed into the existing steel backstrap/spring carrier.
 
Hey I like the red G-10 handle but I still would prefer that they do a colored Micarta instead>> but I could live with a G-10 handle. Personally I think that a knife of this caliber should have the original Micarta that it was born with. The C-44 is not only the "ultimate User Knife" but it also ranks high as a holy grail, super collector piece as well. Because the original Dyad in my opinion is a Hall of Fame Spyder all the way.

I do want VG-10 steel at the very least>> but preferrably it would be really cool to make a sprint with one of the super steels. In any event I would truly be saving all the nickels I could get because this is one Spyder that I would have to buy one to use and one for the collection.

Come on folks let Mr. Glesser know that we are serious and we will support his efforts. Personally I'll go as far as pay for mine in advance. Probably not necessary but that's how bad I've love to have one. And some way to use a lanyard ( which the original C-44 didn't have).
 
The Deacon said:
IDK. While I wouldn't want to see Spyderco's usual peel ply G-10 on it, and I think a brown or dark green would suit the C44 better, the polished red G-10 on the Sprint Persian looks pretty darn nice to me.
I could be wrong, as I've never had one apart, but I think if they moved the clip about 1/4" closer to the end of the handle so that it covered the pivot screw, and made the screws long enough, it could be screwed into the existing steel backstrap/spring carrier.
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It would be tight, but it would work that way. That should eliminate the concern for clip screws pulling out (which mine haven't in all the years I've carried it), while keeping the knife slim. The original is only 0.016" thicker than the Endura 4, which is why it still has a slot in my pocket. I'd hate to see it bulked up to Buck 110 proportions.
 
I sure hate to appear to be disagreeable but personally I wouldn't be opposed to at least a single liner in a Sprint run C-44 Dyad. For a knife with 2 full sized premium blades I actually want a little more stability. Even if it means that I would have to maybe use a side pouch type belt sheath ( which I don't think would be necessary at all).

I definitely think it would truly be advantageous to have some way to use a lanyard being the original C-44 didn't have any way of using one. They could use Titanium for a liner material which would be lighter.

As far as the blade designs I do think that the original are so good that is one item that truly could stay the same and all would be well.
 
JD, I can understand your desire for a lanyard, just can't figure out how one could be added without interfering with one of the blades. Assuming you actually use your less favored blade at least occasionally, your lanyard will be dangling under the blade or sitting between your hand and the backstrap when you do.
 
The Deacon said:
JD, I can understand your desire for a lanyard, just can't figure out how one could be added without interfering with one of the blades. Assuming you actually use your less favored blade at least occasionally, your lanyard will be dangling under the blade or sitting between your hand and the backstrap when you do.
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What I was thinking was maybe they could somehow attach a strong stainless or titanium loop of some sort. It wouldn't have to be big enough to interfere with anything either. Now if it's not feasible I can certainly live without it.

I'm also wondering if they couldn't make a new type of pocket clip that would have a lanyard attachment to it. Or maybe they could take the end of the scale area where a bolster would normally be and extend it enough to accomodate a hole for a lanyard.

Again I could live without it but it sure would be nice if they could do it somehow so guys in the shipping & fishing industries would be wanting one.

Even if it's a carbon copy of the old original with a better blade steel I will still be buying 2 or maybe 3 of them. But the way Spyderco normally improves Sprint run models it would be nice to see if it is within reason a possibility
 
Just got back from the Mark Twain National Forest here in Missouri. What a super hiking adventure :cool: And guess which folder I took with me>> that's right I took my C-44 big Dyad and let me tell you that between that blade and my original Temperance 1 model I had all the cutlery I needed for an extensive all day hike.

This knife just simply has to make a comeback even if it is just a Sprint Run. And if it is only available through a Sprint Run then I will get 3 jobs if I had to so I can afford at least 3 of them. I want a user, a backup to my user and one for the permanent collection>> that is so I can retire my original ATS-55 model C-44.

This is one very splendid and greatly designed, all purpose tool as well as being a great all around pocket folder. The C-44 Dyad is truly a Hall of Fame design for sure
 
The Deacon said:
Might buy one and kill the warranty just to see if I could shuffle the parts around to make it lefty friendly. If it works, will buy a second and let someone get even more creative with it. I think brown canvas micarta, polished, would look great.
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It works, but I don't recommend it. I have an original I bought used with no clip. It looks like two of the holes have been drilled out, like someone tried to fix it. Anyway, I took it apart and swiched the blades to the other side. The Dyad is quite a piece of engineering, it took me a while to understand how to reassemble it. I'd bet there is a special tool for final assembly (which I lack) that would make it a lot easier, but it can be done without it if you're as stubborn as I am.

If you'd like to try out a left-handed, clipless C-44, e-mail or p.m. your mailing address to me and I'll send it out.
 
That's interesting you would make mention of the design and engineering of the C-44 Dyad.>> It's been my assertion that the C-44 is not just a great user knife and a folder for virtually all purposes but I also believe that it may be one of the most genius pieces of engineering I've ever seen.

Because if I were to try to design a folder with 2 premium, full sized blades with a great locking system I truly don't know where I would start. When you think about it there are so many genius engineering feats that Spyderco has produced that it truly boggles my mind. I can only imagine the time and effort that went into designing the 204 Sharpmaker for instance.

This is why this knife just has to come back for another go around. It's not only a dream folder for everyday usage it's also an engineering marvel as well. The C-44 Dyad will be a very popular model when all the new folks see it resurrected.
 
This is truly great to see a c44 sprint idea being entertained. I really hope this sprint does eventuate. Now my 2 cents.... As far as scale material goes I'd strongly prefer the original Micarta. With a peel ply G10 as second option, I'm not at all enthused about polished g10 and would be more upset if polished or twill CF found it's way on there . In regards to colour for me anything goes!

Bo
 
yablanowitz said:
It works, but I don't recommend it. I have an original I bought used with no clip. It looks like two of the holes have been drilled out, like someone tried to fix it. Anyway, I took it apart and swiched the blades to the other side. The Dyad is quite a piece of engineering, it took me a while to understand how to reassemble it. I'd bet there is a special tool for final assembly (which I lack) that would make it a lot easier, but it can be done without it if you're as stubborn as I am.

If you'd like to try out a left-handed, clipless C-44, e-mail or p.m. your mailing address to me and I'll send it out.
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Thanks Jack, email sent. :D
 
bodankers said:
This is truly great to see a c44 sprint idea being entertained. I really hope this sprint does eventuate. Now my 2 cents.... As far as scale material goes I'd strongly prefer the original Micarta. With a peel ply G10 as second option, I'm not at all enthused about polished g10 and would be more upset if polished or twill CF found it's way on there . In regards to colour for me anything goes!

Bo
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Yeah Bodankers I totally agree with you. The Original Micarta handle scales is the appropriate material for sure. I just don't see any reason to use anything else. Oh I know that there are those who would argue that if you could make it cheaper then it would sell better. But I beg to differ with that because it's not your normal "Delica-Endura" crowd that's going to be interested in this folder anyway. The folks who liked the original big Dyad were quality driven and are not going to change anytime soon.

This needs to be a super sprint run>> because it's just that good of a folder. This is one folder that puts Spyderco way ahead of it's competition in many areas. So why go backward. As long as the price is not in the upper stratosphere I'll make a way to buy a couple if it comes to fruition. The hard core fans of this great folder will be there when the time comes. Bring on a Super Sprint of the C-44!!!
 
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