A 'new' woods threat...

Mary Jane patches have always been a nuissance around here. Out hunting/hiking/whatever else and run into an MJ crop...just about-face and go the way you came. Make a mental note of the area and:

A.) Never go there again or,
B.) Alert the po-po's or -- the more lucrative, but less legal choice --
C.) FINDERS KEEPERS, LOSERS SUCK.

I have yet to run into anything resembling a meth lab. Most of those are in old trailers hid out in vacant fields here. Doesn't mean some enterprising young criminal won't say: "Hey, you know, the five-oh is a little to stupid when it comes to the woods...how 'bout let's build us one there?"
 
Glock26 said:
"The most ignorant bunch has to be the nature loving tree huggers who think life in the woods is a Walt Disney movie."

['what gun for defense in the woods' thread?]

The quote and question is a sad fact of reality, I have not gone too deep in the woods but mostly local mountains because of my daily schedule but when I go somewhat deep in the woods I'm prepared and always have a friend, it is harder to kill two than one.
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Hey! I'm a nature loving tree lover and I sort of object to your stereotype!:mad:
 
Why? Do you think life in the woods is a Walt Disney Movie? If not, I'd say you're out of the group.
 
all threats from two-legged critters aren't confrontational. in ky, i don't recall hearing about many confrontations between bad guys & hikers, although two leo friends once came under automatic weapons fire when they stumbled on an outdoor hydroponics grow. (the guy fired & fled.) but that type of event is very, very rare around here. the confrontations i've heard about involved persons trying to steal a crop.

in years past, it was more common to find copperheads & rattlesnakes tied down in patches, rat trap shotgun shell booby traps on approaches, and occasionally some type of explosive device. not to worry much about unless you accidentally stumble into a patch, and they're not so common anymore anyway.

most common when exploring off main trails is discovering "path guards" - natural items, not people, positioned in such a way as not to arouse suspicion - and other indicators letting someone know you've passed. pretty effective at choke points. sometimes not easily recognizable. i recommend taking these as warnings when you recognize 'em.
 
KEmSAT-Survival said:
I have yet to run into anything resembling a meth lab. Most of those are in old trailers hid out in vacant fields here. Doesn't mean some enterprising young criminal won't say: "Hey, you know, the five-oh is a little to stupid when it comes to the woods...how 'bout let's build us one there?"
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In a county to the west the woods are where most of the meth labs have been found. All of the sheriffs over there keep a "tactical" bag in their trunks. I have had them question me and then tell me I needed to "go find another area to photograph" before when out on photo-shoots. I only go over there in the winter now when I can see farther.
 
Lived in middle tennessee for a few years on a huntin camp my family owns. I kept a close lookout for grow plots because the growers would go to the deep woods, on someone else's property to plant their plots. (Our hunting camp was a perfect place). Never had a problem...but was at the local watering hole when the DEA (i think) came in decked out in the battle gear. They had just raided three farms a few hollows over from us. They had four trailers with ATV's and over 50 plants each 6-8 feet tall. They were on there way back from the raids and said they had found no one at the plots... still if they thought they needed to be that decked out and prepared then it must be scary. I have heard of the growers planting land mines around their fields and using trip wires to set off booby traps.
 
nothing new for up here either.

welcome to BC, otherwise known as Busy Cropping/Bud Country. lol.

outdoor grow ops are plentiful here and so are the meth labs. drive up any decomissioned forest service road and you'll find the ditches filled with empty plastic canisters with chemicals in them.

can't carry a side arm here so having to be cautious is about the only thing you can do besides carrying a knife or spray
 
me2 said:
Why? Do you think life in the woods is a Walt Disney Movie? If not, I'd say you're out of the group.
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I would have thought we were all nature loving tree huggers here... Don't we all like the wilderness, thus frequenting the Wilderness and Survival section of the forum?

Apologies for thread drift.
 
ROCK6 said:
This was a concern for backwoods hikers in Oregon and WA years ago.
ROCK6
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It stiill is a problem here in the Pacific Northwest. I helped out with the rescue of a Law Enforcement team that was destroying a grow and got stranded in the dark without flashlights and water. This was less just in the last couple of years. In my six years as a SAR volunteer I have sat through two classes on what to watch for and how to regonize pot and meth operations.
 
It is a large problem here in Northern California. The most dangerous time in the woods is along about September-October when it is harvest season. I would never go into the woods unarmed. I have seen countless gardens from small 25 plant grows to grows of 1000 plants. The criminals are well armed and will protect their investment. As others have stated, rat trap spring-guns, vicious dogs, and fish hooks at eye level are used. It is a sad state of affairs for sure.
 
Although there are large scale irrigated farms all over the Sierra foothills, I have never walked into one. The primary reason is that they are at lower elevation, and during the growing season I am up higher. Who wants to hike around in 110 degree heat when you can go higher to better scenery and cooler temperatures?
 
Wow , my biggest worries are hungry Cougars or injured Bears, makes me glad I live where I do !:eek:
 
Quirt said:
The woods are a haven of felons on the lamb
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It is usually just a misdemeanor to be "on the lamb", goat, whatever. Or were you referring to fugitives? :confused:

Quirt said:
illegal mushrooms
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I don't know whether to laugh or cry whenever I hear that a plant that grows in the dirt is "illegal." ARREST THAT PLANT!!! And God, who made the plant, can be subpoenaed to testify in court regarding said matter.
 
Yup, good ol' NorCal. Luckily our government has seen fit to keep us safe by outlawing firearms in National Forests/Parks (I know, Parks have recently changed laws). Those NO FIREARM signs are a criminal's one weakness, no way they can disobey that.
 
tyr_shadowblade said:
It is usually just a misdemeanor to be "on the lamb", goat, whatever. Or were you referring to fugitives? :confused:



I don't know whether to laugh or cry whenever I hear that a plant that grows in the dirt is "illegal." ARREST THAT PLANT!!! And God, who made the plant, can be subpoenaed to testify in court regarding said matter.
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Okay, so I now realize I need to be very concrete in my post compositions...so let me re-state for the record (thank God for 'do-overs' on a forum) technically "to be on the lamb" one must be a fugitive. So here is what I meant: "The vast remoteness of the wilderness provides a haven for fugitives and/or escaped convicted felons"

Also I stand corrected on my articulation of describing the situation we have with people harvesting Psilocybin mushrooms in wilderness areas which if caught they, meaning the individuals, can be arrested and charged with a crime. It is true a plant cannot be charged with a crime or commit an illegal act. And while God is an omnipresent witness to every trial it is remotely unlikely He is subpoenaed to testify in a case involving Shrooms. What I should have stated was; "those in the wilderness who are actively harvesting and distributing Psilocybin Mushrooms which is an illegal act".

I regret my post contribution caused or potentially caused so much consternation and confusion. I have learned a very valuable lesson.
 
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