A person in General Forums taking a cheap shot at Ernie

3Guardsmen

3Guardsmen

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3Guardsmen said:
I was in the "Steven Seagal/Kershaw knife" thread (link at bottom), and happened upon this post: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3783475&postcount=30 , in which the author implies that Mr. Emerson's background is less than stellar. I was hoping Mr. Emerson would see this so he could respond. Why is it people try to smear a great man's name?:mad:

Link to thread: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3783475#post3783475

Best wishes,
3G
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Let me state now that I was not taking a cheap shot at Mr Emerson. I don't know the man at all or his history. If you read my further postings on down into that thread you will see why I included Mr Emerson's name. I think it is wrong to look at someone like Mr Emerson or Mr Strider and form opinions based soley on internet gossip and rumors which is what was going on with the Seagall knife. Any knife should be judged not on the personality of the maker but on the merits of the knife itself.
If this made you mad I apologize as my intent was not to take as you say a cheap shot but to show that others were being fooloish in their thinking.
 
Fair enough, but understand, Mr. Emerson's reputation and background are solid gold as far as I know, and he has fought hard to get it/keep it that way. I didn't like seeing his name maligned without reason or explanation.

Best wishes,
3G
 
If Steven Segal wants to save the Alaskan wilderness, the battle will have to be fought ON DEADLY GROUND!!
 
GBeninati said:
If Steven Segal wants to save the Alaskan wilderness, the battle will have to be fought ON DEADLY GROUND!!
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but not if ya are "above the law" or "under seige" lol. in those cases seagall would be "hard to kill".
 
GBeninati said:
If Steven Segal wants to save the Alaskan wilderness, the battle will have to be fought ON DEADLY GROUND!!
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I could care less about Mr. Seagall. As a Buddhist I think he has done us ( the Buddhist religion ) more harm than good with him bringing in all his negative connatations. I just wanted to make sure that the knife in question got a fair handshake. Sometimes we judge a knife innacurately by basing our opinion not on the knife but on the personality associated with the knife.
I do however give Mr. Seagall credit for helping out of work hip hop stars beyond their 15 minutes of fame a helping hand.
 
Lotus,

If you don't know the man or his history, why are you bringing calling his character into question? Think twice, post once.
 
If you say you don't know the man, why would you say his background is questionable? Stupid thing to say on both accounts:(
 
Yester5 said:
If you say you don't know the man, why would you say his background is questionable? Stupid thing to say on both accounts:(
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No it was not stupid. It was done to prove a point on the cult of personality and how it was overshadowing the knife.
 
well imho on the kershaw seagal its hard to seperate the man and the knife when the mans name is so prominantly displayed on the knife, though what stevan seagal and a kershaw knife have in common with ernie emerson escapes me, maybe i am missing something????
 
lotus1972 said:
No it was not stupid. It was done to prove a point on the cult of personality and how it was overshadowing the knife.
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If it wasn't stupid, it was mean and malicious to suggest that Mr. Emerson's reputation was questionable despite the fact that you have nothing to support having made that statement.

So, it was stupid or it was malicious - pick one. :foot:
 
Comparing Emerson and Strider isn't fair. From all accounts Emerson is good, and Strider was proven a fraud and liar in a court of law. Big difference there.
 
strider a fraud and a liar ? oh pray tell! been out of the loop for a while and i havent heard anything about him being found guilty in a court of law or anything .
 
Ghost Soldier said:
Comparing Emerson and Strider isn't fair. From all accounts Emerson is good, and Strider was proven a fraud and liar in a court of law. Big difference there.
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Yeah please tell and cite some sources:yawn:
 
Well, as to Mr. Emerson and commenting on his background, you have to take into account that people may not read any further than your original post. Even when they DO, it comes with the taint of what you originally said. Mr. Strider has made some mistakes, to be sure, but if you were out to make a point, you did it by clouding the issue and adding things that are just going to take away from your argument. YES, Mr. Emerson has a big, loyal following, but he is rock steady and I don't think he's ever been shown or suspected to be a liar in his representations of himself.

As to the thing with Mr. Strider being proven to have made false statements about his past, he wasn't proven "guilty," but rather signed a settlement stipulating those false statements were indeed false. It came out of his being himself with Chris Osman and TAG Gear and being sued by them for slander and causing harm to his business. It was prominently displayed over on that schmuck Mr. McClung's website. It is a matter of public record, though.
 
I have met and talked to Ernest Emerson on two occasions, and he is a complete gentleman. I have never heard anything negative about his character or his martial arts credentials. If anybody has anything to say about Mr. Emerson, say it to his face, and not on a forum.
 
Spyder,

Yep, I found info about it online, rather neutral info in comparison to what Mcclung posted on his site. Between all the mudslinging between the two is pretty much why I no longer buy Strider or Mad Dog pieces.
Red\gutsy-There was a big thing made about Strider(Burger) lieing about his actual military service, discharge, etc. Also about him being a convicted felon for armed carjacking back in the day. Not someone I'd want to support or be proud to carry around his products.
Mcclung also lied about being a professional soldier. Stated he worked for a company called ninjaco or something like that which qualified him as a professional. Edited his site when brought to task for his statements, etc, etc, etc.
Based on the above, and the go-round mudslinging between all involved. I've pretty much come to the conclusion they both suck.
 
I feel that I should not have to repeat myself again but for the record I was not taking a cheap shot at E.E. I was pointing out the personality of a very charismatic figure can often overshadow a good knife or over promote a bad knife.
I buy a knife because I like the knife not because it was made by so and so or because it has some famous guys sig line. I dont care if the knife was designed and built by Charles Manson or Charles Bronson. Is the knife by itself a good knife sans all the personality behind the product? If it is then I buy it.
 
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