A plea for those selling knives on BFC.

Are you nuts! If the wives see them we're dead.
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I hadn't thought of that!

New rule: after a knife is sold, you edit the post to be 1/3 of the actual price. We'll know about the 1/3 thing, but wives won't.:D
 
This subject has come up a number of times in the past. In fact, at one time I supported the idea that it be a rule/policy that all prices remain posted. I came to realize that I wanted the information for the reason Spark mentioned,,as leverage. I wanted to be able to point out to a fellow forumite that he or she was charging more than someone else,,or more than what the seller paid. Fact is,,the history and what someone sells a knife(or anything else)for doesen't make any difference. A knife is worth what someone will pay you today. Heres a good example. I sold a knife yesterday on Ebay. The knife originally sold from the maker for $1000. The maker would charge $1500 to re-make it. So what is it worth? It sold for $432 yesterday,,so it was worth $432. I guarantee it'll never sell for exactly $432 again. Next week,,$200 or maybe $2,000. It depends on how bad one of us sickos wants it.

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Interesting discussion all. I've sold many knives both here, on ebay and by other means. I will admit that it is nice to see past prices when formulating one's own prices. On the other hand, though, it's kind of useless, in fact it can be detrimental to a seller. We all know the number one rule of selling collectables: it's only worth as much as someone is willing to pay for it. The other side of that is that it's only worth as much as someone is willing to sell it for! All sorts of situations arise where a seller may either want to, or be forced to sell something for less (sometimes significantly less!) than it might be worth. Someone may really want a new knife, might have bills due, sudden car repairs, medical problems, who knows what, and therefore may be in a situation where he or she is forced to "scramble" for cash, thus "giving away the store" so to speak. If you are selling a knife at what you believe to be a fair price, maybe even making a couple of bucks, and someone researches past sales where the buyer may have been in one of the above theoretical situations, you as a seller might become very discouraged. Whenever I sell a knife, there's usually a little bit of "back and forth" via personal email, the final price rarely shows up on the board, I always try and delete or edit the post as well. I think the best way to go about buying a used, or a "used new" knife is to see what retailers are selling it for, or what they sold it for when it was in production and then factor in your "personal want factor", as well as the "availibility" factor, and then decide if the price is fair or not. Just my thoughts here.
 
a database of MSRP for past production knives would be nice. Maybe also with production run numbers. People could decide what they're willing to pay based on these numbers if they're looking to speculate rather than pick up users.
 
Originally posted by allyourblood
i'd like to put some support behind Kimberholic's REQUEST. i also would kindly ask that sellers leave their prices intact, after a sale is concluded. if you don't want to, that's fine too.

abe m.
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Again with the demands for a hard and fast rule. You and Kimberholic deserve to get your asses chewed for being so goddamned pushy.
 
Originally posted by not2sharp
Are you nuts! If the wives see them we're dead. :D

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This is the number one reason why we should delete all prices! Who knows what would happen if our wives ever found out we spent X amount of $$$ on kninves!!!
 
Originally posted by TorzJohnson
Again with the demands for a hard and fast rule. You and Kimberholic deserve to get your asses chewed for being so goddamned pushy.
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i really, really hope this was meant in jest. really.


abe m.
 
I think the seller should do whatever he or she wants. That said, I sometimes wish I knew what the item had sold for.
 
Bottom line is that not everybody is going to agree on this subject and that's okay. We all have a right to our opinions and we should respect another individual's right to form and express an opinion regardless of whether or not it coincides with our own. That truly is what living in a democracy is all about.
 
Originally posted by allyourblood
i really, really hope this was meant in jest. really.


abe m.
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Deadpan humor is always most effective when you have to explain the point of the joke, so here goes: My premise was that Kimberholic was unfairly castigated over a non-existant transgression. You then posted an incredibly non-offensive vote of solidarity with Kimberholic. I then replied with an exaggerated aggressive response - obviously way over the top - which was meant to be a satire of the kind of reception that Kimberholic's remarks received. This "satire" often involves the exaggeration of certain elements of the subject. You can refer to humor magazines such as "Mad" or back issues of "National Lampoon" for more examples of satire. Their humor does not include footnotes or explanations, unfortunately, so don't take everything in them at face value.

From now on I'll just add smileys.;)

Edited to add: the correct response to my scathing post should have been "Why, you bastard" or something along those lines.;)

Edited again to add: You know I'm just fu#@ing with you, right?;)
 
I never remove the asking price from my -for sale- threads, but they are just that, the asking price. I am not going to edit my threads with the price that the knives actually sell for.

This is actually really simple. As much as I like to know what was being asked for a sold knife, it is totally up to the person that sold the knife as to whether they will leave that price posted. I might consider removing the price if the buyer requested it, but I would not necessarily do so. If I felt the buyers reasoning was good enough, I would honor the request.

For me, being able to see the price that was being asked is for interest sake only. It is not a very good way to judge what the value of a knife is. People sell knives for lots of reasons and the price being asked is more a reflection of the urgency with which the knife is being sold than a true reflection of what the knife is worth.

If a person could find half a dozen or so recent threads where someone was selling, say a Sebenza, and they all were listed for around $250.00 then this would be a good resource for helping this person decide what to price their knife at. The fact is that I have seen Sebenzas priced from $225.00 to $325.00 for the standard model. What does this tell me? My guess would be that what it tells me that some people are more desperate to sell their knife than others are. Now I suppose I could go to a person and say that I saw a Sebenza advertised for $225.00 and if this person would match that price I would buy it, but that would make me feel a little dirty, so I just wouldn't do it.

Anyway, leave the price up if you want to, or remove it if you wish. It really doesn't make much of a difference either way as far as being a useful reference is concerned.
 
Originally posted by TorzJohnson
I then replied with an exaggerated aggressive response - obviously way over the top - which was meant to be a satire of the kind of reception that Kimberholic's remarks received.
Edited again to add: You know I'm just fu#@ing with you, right?;)
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i don't think either of us can win. i was just teasing as well. i'm with you on the smiley thing. now stop being so hostile!;)

abe m.
 
edited to remove all those nasty comments I made about Spark and his Momma. My post, my free speech, use your imagination. Let's not exchange any useful information at all, just rumor and BS.
 
Originally posted by allyourblood
i don't think either of us can win. i was just teasing as well. i'm with you on the smiley thing. now stop being so hostile!;)

abe m.
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Why, Crimeny Pete! You BASTARD!

Edited to add: ;)
 
My Gawd, that was the last straw. All these personal attacks are getting way out of hand. If they don't stop I think the people engaging in this behavior should be forced to carry Fury knives for their EDCs. A fate worse than death.
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Originally posted by Keith Montgomery
My Gawd, that was the last straw. All these personal attacks are getting way out of hand. If they don't stop I think the people engaging in this behavior should be forced to carry Fury knives for their EDCs. A fate worse than death.
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NOOOOOO!!!!! i'd rather cut with a spoon.

abe m.
 
Knives, houses...the same types of selling and buying modivations/variables pretty much apply. Savy home buyers will look at asking vs. selling prices because it's a legitimate data point in an attempt to develope a GENERAL market understanding, nothing more, nothing less. In the end a one on one negotiation will determine a price which is satisfactory to both parties, which is ultimately what really matters.
The request is understandable, the initial reaction to it, less so. The seller's right to post or not post the transacted price is legitimately his, and his decision is respected. I don't believe anyone in this thread has argued this point.
 
In my business world (antiques and art), "How much did you sell that for?" has about as much credibility as "How much did you pay for that?". The best answer I heard came from an old timer dealer, and one I use quite often, is "Its not mine to tell the price on anymore, you'll have to ask the new owner"!
 
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