A Sad, Surreal experience today

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Barrabas said:
Thank you for taking the time to remind us of how much we (the generation that has not known the atrocities of War as those before us) have taken for granted, especially as Americans over these short decades since that occurred.
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What generation are you in?
 
I'm 39...one of the guys blessed enough not to have experienced War; I only meant, that it's really easy for those of us that have not been in combat to try to understand, even with a good upbringing, what the folks actually face to defend Life in those environments...beyond my comprehension..I try to respect the Brave, and honor them in the small way I can..but that compared to what they actually do, is nothing even remotely worthy of what they have seen/experienced to defend it.
 
Gentlemen,

I know this is a touchy subject, but we are on the verge of a Mod intervention if we're not careful.
 
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The rabbi of my synagogue was in Auschwitz and other death camps for three years. He still has his prisoner number tattooed on a forearm, and it's a number tattooed in my memory. It seems somehow fitting this thread was posted on the next-to-last day of Hanukkah; evil comes very close to conquering, but it will not have the final word!

Looking at these pictures, I'm struck by how the death camps were the result, the end stage, of more than a decade's worth of preparation in the minds and perceptions of people - the eroding of societal morality and the slow, steady building of a culture of callousness.
 
I am more likely to remove the off-topic posts. (( Edit to add: Done! ))
My thanks for the original topic and discussion.
 
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I've heard it said that people killed each other more in the 20th century than throughout all the rest of history combined, given the exponentially increasing population it seems plausible.
Human nature will never change, freedom isn't free, etc...
 
Joshua J. said:
I've heard it said that people killed each other more in the 20th century than throughout all the rest of history combined, given the exponentially increasing population it seems plausible.
Human nature will never change, freedom isn't free, etc...
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Human nature doesn't change but depending on the environment/society different aspect of that nature come to the surface.
Giving up on humans is the easy thing to do, creating the right conditions and teaching our little ones that they don't part take in such atrocities might be more work but worth it in my opinion.
 
:eek: More of a Zombie than we have seen on FTWD

human nature has been debated since the beginning of time. Into the Heart of Darkness, Lord of the Flies, The Prince, etc

I just try to make my little corner of the world a better place
 
legaleagle said:
:eek: More of a Zombie than we have seen on FTWD

human nature has been debated since the beginning of time. Into the Heart of Darkness, Lord of the Flies, The Prince, etc

I just try to make my little corner of the world a better place
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Blame it on Tapatalk it shows it as new post.
The posts spoke to me and I answered.
 
Not just brainwashing, some simply cannot believe others could do such a thing.

Always fight! Never go quietly in such a situation. This is the very thing I point to when discussing limitations on owning arms.
 
jstn said:
Terrible. I am glad people are still able to visit some of the concentration camps as a reminder of the way things should never be. Hopefully the reminder will prevent more of the same.
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Should never be?

What about Guantanamo?

The subject above deals with Europe. I think we should deal the killed millions of Native Americans, Indians.
 
littlehoot said:
Not just brainwashing, some simply cannot believe others could do such a thing....
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Unfortunately, our history is ripe with examples. Even during WWII, we had just as much terror in Asia with Japanese troops brutalizing the local population; Russia, likewise repaid the German's in kind and carried out its own internal massacres (including much of its military officer corps). Perhaps the most horrific campaign in Western Europe, was the one carried out by the church during the inquisition, which went on torturing, raping, brutalizing, killing and stealing on a massive scale, for nearly 500 years.

Whenever the human herd is pressured, when our turf and interests are put at risk, we tend to strike back and just as often we lash out blindly and direct our frustrations at whatever target is conveniently available. It is not a pretty picture. But, avoidance has a better chance when we understand that this is a normal part of each of us, that we are all capable of participating in such brutality and that only by tempering our own gross impulses do we have a chance of finding and making better choices.

n2s
 
The only one we can do: Recpect each other and - as Jerry said: Let's drink.

Let's drink together, eat other's special food. At a laid table fraternization goes easily.
 
Yes - never forget

And it would be good to be able to see some of the Russian "work camps" of the time as well - to hear their stories. No one was ever saved from them and they were as bad - just not as specific as to whom they let in

Dont forget because it can and most likely will happen again- all in the name of "Progress!"

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Guantanamo? Really? Not to start anything here, but that's a tough comparison for me. Native Americans killed/slaughtered? Yes. But if you can find one land mass on the planet that has not witnessed one group attempting to obliterate another, please let me know. The jungle is never far removed.

Know these topics are better suited to Whine & Cheese, so no further comments from me on this. Oh, and I also own a 1916 Mauser. My first firearm ever. Have a great Holiday weekend all...;-)
 
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tuica said:
Guantanamo? Really? Not to start anything here, but that's a tough comparison for me. Native Americans killed/slaughtered? Yes. But if you can find one land mass on the planet that has not witnessed one group attempting to obliterate another, please let me know. The jungle is never far removed.

Know these topics are better suited to Whine & Cheese, so no further comments from me on this. Oh, and I also own a 1916 Mauser. My first firearm ever. Have a great Holliday weekend all...;-)
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You are too nice. Comparing Guantanamo to the German death-camps is not very smart. Those where innocent people not war fighters or in the case of the inhabitants of Guantanamo thug's in uniforms. I am with you maybe we should talk knifes so this does not go south quickly.
 
tuica said:
Native Americans killed/slaughtered? Yes. But if you can find one land...
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There is no BUT... Killing of millions of Native Americans was the same as Germans did. So, don't have to go to Europe to see horror.

There was the internment of Japanese Americans after Pearl Harbour. These people were civilians also.

I don't think Germans are worse than others.

The death of only one person is too many and sad if it happens because of his/her origin.
 
Soooo....what will be the next exciting announcement from Wauseon, Ohio, folks? Hoping it will be the ASH2. Although, truth be told, I will probably never order directly from Busse. Something in me that enjoys the hunt for what's out there already. Especially knives who's production has long since passed...;-)
 
Mauser1916 said:
There is no BUT... Killing of millions of Native Americans was the same as Germans did. So, don't have to go to Europe to see horror.

There was the internment of Japanese Americans after Pearl Harbour. These people were civilians also.

I don't think Germans are worse than others.

The death of only one person is too many and sad if it happens because of his/her origin.
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You are delusional/ignorant/stupid or some combination and seem to be trolling
 
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