A Sure Defense: The Bowie Knife in America

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Great photos.

I can't stand one of these knives. Never liked the antiques, dislike the reproductions even more.

I do like a slickly built California Ring Dagger, in modern form and materials, but man, they sure knew how to build ugly back in the day.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson

I don't feel as strongly, but I agree to a fair extent. I admire the skill that went into making them, but the only one that's really catches my eye is the ring-hilted short sword, and with that it's the blade. The handle doesn't look too comfortable. :D The Shively looks pretty good, and the execution is great, but it's not all that interesting. Looks like a nice kitchen knife, and I see more interesting kitchen knives from the makers on this forum almost daily.

The photography is top-notch, I think.
 
pearl sure holds up well

And it doesn't move over time. I love pearl. Here's some lovely pearl that still looks great. (too bad about G.Washington's nose - sometime in the last 150+ years it got chipped)

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And it doesn't move over time. I love pearl. Here's some lovely pearl that still looks great. (too bad about G.Washington's nose - sometime in the last 150+ years it got chipped)
For those who aren't familiar with it, the above knife was once the most expensive knife ever sold -- it fetched $132,000 at auction in 1992 (and later sold privately for more than that!) The 13-1/2" blade is triple hollow ground on the front and double hollow ground on the back, etched and "checkered"; carved pearl handle, cast silver guard/frame/pommel. A one of a kind knife made strictly for exhibition at worlds fairs and the like.

I don't think that this knife has ever been seen in public except at the 1992 auction, but it will be at the exhibit for all to see.

Mark
 
As a huge fan of the classics, I think these old knives are wonderful.
Especially the Guardless Coffin Handles ;)
And that Bell!

Buddy, I know full well what an undertaking that was.
Your results are spectacular.
Excellent choice of background and your consistency is remarkable.
You have done the project proud.

Someone asked about a full sized Bell Repro on the first page.
Harvey Dean did one and I got to handle it at one of the NYC shows.
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Sweetness...


Please, please, please keep the photos coming :D
 
As a huge fan of the classics, I think these old knives are wonderful.
Especially the Guardless Coffin Handles ;)
And that Bell!
You really need to come see the exhibit firsthand -- there are, I think, 14 guardless coffin bowies formally in the exhibit plus two more that'll be in another area -- that's somewhere in the ballpark of half the known examples (if anything, more than half) and surely must be the most ever in one place at one time.

Also, eight Samuel Bell knives!

Come for the AKA Show in February, take in the exhibit and a great custom knife show while you're there...

Mark
 
any classic ring daggers out there?
 
Lending a hand to assist-

All comments by Mark Zaleski:
& All photos by Buddy Thomason.

Berkley Bowie's Huber (from Lucy Leigh's article)
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Will & Finck Camp knife and a Rau & Kohnke Bowie (both from San Francisco)
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Here's a group of smaller guardless coffins -- we have a tremendous group of coffin handled knives in the exhibit. As a rule these knives are southern, very early, and very well constructed.
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Mark Z"
 
Someone asked about a full sized Bell Repro on the first page.
Harvey Dean did one and I got to handle it at one of the NYC shows.
That's one of my favorite handmade knives of all time. Harvey put a lot of effort into getting it to look 'right,' he called me a bunch of times with questions as he was planning and working on it. It's more or less a mashup of about 3 different Samuel Bell originals -- the handle shape from one, the blade, sheath and sheath engraving from another, the handle engraving from a third, and of course some creative license from the maker. This comes as close as any knife I've seen to a Samuel Bell knife that 'ol Sam never made, but might have.

Mark Z
 
Love the shot of the guardless coffin bowies. Thank you Buddy. Mark, will we be able to pre order the catalogue? Or just pick it up at the exhibit? We will see you there in December.
Brion
 
Hi Brion,

The catalog won't be done in time for the opening, and I'm not so sure it can be ready by the Arkansas Show. However, the museum gift shop is already taking down the names of those interested and can contact you when the catalog's ready (you can call HAM at 501-324-9351, or put your name on the list when you're in Little Rock). Interest has been really strong so far which is nice to see.

Just got back from the second photo session with Buddy and he's knocked it out of the park. Wait until you see the photos of the knife Teddy Roosevelt received as a gift at the end of his last term as President, in 1909 -- highly sculpted in gold and silver. It's an absolute stunner and the photos are amazing.

Mark Z

PS: I think I miscounted on the guardless coffins, it's 15 in the exhibit (14 before February) and I believe two more in the knife gallery for a total of 17 in one place at one time. Quite an amazing group and it's fun to compare their similarities and differences when you have them all together.
 
Just to give you an idea of the effort that is going into this exhibit and catalog, here are a few shots of the setup.

Ever seen a sturdier shipping crate?
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The wood working shop was shut down and lighting equipment, back drops were set, computers and cables were hooked up. Lots of folks were keeping tabs on the progress. Here Bill Worthen (museum director) drops in to check on the guys.
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We could play "caption this" with this picture. Mark is giving the placement of this gigantic exhibition folder from the 1850's a final check.
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Buddy was really having to contort himself to get these shots. This one knife took about 2 hours to shoot.
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I will take this opportunity to ask you again to pass the word to anyone interested in historic knives, early America, early industry, or the real life characters in that time period of history. If you know a student of history or journalism that is looking for a subject to cover, please tell them about this exhibit. This concentration of actual objects, photos, and documentation has never been available for a time period that would allow such in depth comprehension by a student or anyone else for that matter.
 
Is the TR knife the knife that normally resides in the Museum of Natural History in NYC?
If that is it in the crate, it sure looks like it.

BULLY!
 
Is there any chance such a display would be visiting the Blade Show, or National knife museum (Tenn.) in a distant future date?
David
 
Is the TR knife the knife that normally resides in the Museum of Natural History in NYC?
If that is it in the crate, it sure looks like it.
No, this knife is on loan directly from the Roosevelt family and so far as I know it has never been on exhibit anywhere before. TR's Tiffany bowie has been shown a few times and may be on exhibit now, I don't know the answer to that one.

Mark Z
 
Is there any chance such a display would be visiting the Blade Show, or National knife museum (Tenn.) in a distant future date?
David
Absolutely no chance -- the only way to pull together an exhibit of this magnitude is with the funding, staff, and facilities of a large museum -- in this case the state museum of Arkansas which is of course publicly funded. There are a large number of very valuable objects here, and the insurance and transport issues have been extremely complex. Onsite, the objects have very stable climate control, custom designed mounts and casework, and 24-hour security with cameras everywhere and a direct line to the police. In short, this is a serious museum exhibit created by a serious museum that is interested in knives. A really rare opportunity.

I would love it if an exhibit like this could do some traveling. We didn't really try to push that idea here -- it would take the interest of other serious museums (many of which aren't very keen on knives) and of course the funding to transport everything, and usually this sort of thing needs to be planned a few years in advance. And it's no small exhibit -- we're completely filling a 2500 square foot gallery. My hope is that the exhibit draws enough interest to perhaps generate more opportunities down the road.

I'm a big believer in the National Knife Museum in Sevierville -- in fact I was involved with its startup and first years of operation in its current location. It's a really great thing for knife lovers, but they are just not able to handle an exhibit like this -- in terms of security, space, funding, or logistics. And at a knife show? Not a snowball's chance in hell.

Honestly, this is in all likelihood a once in a lifetime exhibit -- either you travel there to see it, or you don't. The museum was very accommodating with regard to scheduling the exhibit to be open during the Arkansas Knifemakers Association's show in February -- if you need more reason to come, come then!

Mark Z
 
Actually the permanent exhibit of knives at the Arkansas museum is worth the trip alone for the knife lover.

If one likes more traditional American art, the new Crystal Bridges museum in Russellville could easily make it a three day trip of a lifetime. Arkansas is a nice state and Little Rock is very friendly. Go to Whole Hog Cafe (2516 Cantrell Road) if you want some good barbecue.

One of the worst things about the "knife business" or "hobby" is the concentration of money, talent and knives at Blade. That's great for the moneyed few or those that live close to Atlanta and are free in June...not to good for most of us though.

It's great to see knife things not associated with Blade.
 
Actually the permanent exhibit of knives at the Arkansas museum is worth the trip alone for the knife lover.

So True. I make a point to see the permanent exhibit every time I'm in Little Rock.
A great display of both old/antique and contemporary custom knives.
 
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