a tough, workhorse of a knife

As always, the Buck 110. I find new ways even yet to abuse them. Tough bassids for under $30....
 
Buck Strider 889. You'll save some money. Plus with the uses he puts knives to, I'll bet he's not a steel snob so the very serviceable 420HC wouldn't be a problem I'm guessing.

You could buy him two for the price of the BM 710, then he could REALLY let loose on them.
 
If I was buying somebody a knife who is prone to abuse them I would look at something like a Ka-bar Mule for around 40 bucks. It's a stout knife with a strong lock that was designed as a working knife. Just my two cents, but I can't really see spending 100-150 bucks on a folder that's likely to be used as a screwdriver, hammer, or pry bar.
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I'm going to recommend the Spyderco Paramilitary....I may soon start debating that it's the strongest lock ever, period...haven't really gotten to that level of confidence yet. Plus, I'll bet it's more like the knives he's used to working with, in that the handle is noticeably longer than the blade. I really think that if you have the pocket space for the para and the need for a ~3 inch blade, there is no better knife in the world than the para. The usual stuff applies...S30V steel, G10 handles, etc...
 
chazz said:
soo. . .

710 over a manix???
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It´s more comfort to carry, isn´t it?


. Just my two cents, but I can't really see spending 100-150 bucks on a folder that's likely to be used as a screwdriver, hammer, or pry bar.
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I do understand this.:D But the mule can only be carried in a sheath. That might be uncomfort for someone how is used to pocket knifes.

I'm going to recommend the Spyderco Paramilitary....I may soon start debating that it's the strongest lock ever, period...
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As long as it doesn´t feature omega springs that are seen as to be weak (whereever your guts will lead you) you are right. And if it is comfort in your hand it is a nice thing.

If your daddy likes small edges (easier to maintain) than have a second look at the Presidio. For the 710 and the Para have large edge bevels, which need more time for resharpening. The Presidios is small and resharpend in a rush. But it is thick and heavy.
 
Would he be willing to carry a small fixed blade? If so, you need to watch the Busse Company Store over the next few days and snag him a Heavy Duty when they are posted. These knives are made to handle the kind of abuse it sounds like he deals out to a knife. Yes, Busse does make some excellent small knives.
 
Blop said:
It´s more comfort to carry, isn´t it?




I do understand this.:D But the mule can only be carried in a sheath. That might be uncomfort for someone how is used to pocket knifes.



As long as it doesn´t feature omega springs that are seen as to be weak (whereever your guts will lead you) you are right. And if it is comfort in your hand it is a nice thing.

If your daddy likes small edges (easier to maintain) than have a second look at the Presidio. For the 710 and the Para have large edge bevels, which need more time for resharpening. The Presidios is small and resharpend in a rush. But it is thick and heavy.
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I myself was gonna suggest the usual suspect of a 710.

Take this suggestion of weak springs lightly, the axis does NOT need 150lb valve springs to work the way it does.

It is a well built knife, from scales to tip, and warrantied to the hilt.
Mine is an EDC an still going strong, regardless of what a handfull of peeps might say.

Good luck an whatever you do decide to get him, i am sure it will be apreciated.

WR
 
I don't think he's debating the literal strength or force of the springs, but the reliability...we've seen a few (rare) incidents of the springs breaking or rusting. I'm personally unconcerned, as I'm extremely pleased with my axis lock, but it has happened. Some of the advantages of the compression lock are that you can see it visually, it is probably more difficult to disengage by someone else in a struggle, its design should be pretty rust free (and if it does rust, can be checked visually), and the lockup can be visually seen. I anticipate the strength should be slightly higher than the axis lock.

I still prefer the axis lock, but the compression lock is gaining ground for me.
 
not to be "that" guy but... if you wanted to get a folder that was made to stand up to abuse... then i recomend a strider. if it gets broken they'll fix it too !
 
Not to sound harsh or anything. But why buy him a knife at all if he's just going to abuse it and eventually break it? These are knives, not prybars. I mean maybe get him both a nice pocket knife and a mini prybar at Ace for $6.00. Find a holster of some kind that will hold both comfortably. That way, the knife will last and maybe be used for it's intended purpose and be there for his camping trips.

Please, I'm not trying to slam your father or start an argument. It's just my opinion.
 
I'm with Esav. If he is using his knives to pry with one of the Buck/Strider knives fits the bill. Buck doesn't really inform the customer of what they will be getting on these knives. The blade thickness and liner and lock thickness is massive and overbuilt for the dimensions of the knives.

The Buck 880 is massive though. It is so big and to me uncomfortable in the hand too. The 881 Mini however is another story. I really like that one. It has the same thickness blade and is quite a little giant of a knife. Buck just this month discontinued it. They still had some in stock at the Buck store reduced in price from the $184 retail to $92, and several retailers still have them in stock as well for good prices. Its a lot of knife for 92 bucks. I got two in plain edge spear point from the Buck store just this month. Slept on the couch overnight for the second one but sometimes a man has to do what a man has to do:D . Seriously, I doubt he would break this blade. It is a pry bar with an edge on it.

Here are a few comparison pics for you of the 880 with tanto point and one of my Mini 881s with a knifekits low rider fold over clip on it. You'll note the slight differences in the handles where the mini is much smoother overall than the aggresive texture of the 880 and the fact that the 881 is ambi for thumb stud and pocket clip. The 880 just has it set up for right hand only. The tanto edge is not sharpened on their knives. They are more like for scraping and tool use. This is by design. Personally I much prefer the spear point.
 
yam said:
Not to sound harsh or anything. But why buy him a knife at all if he's just going to abuse it and eventually break it? These are knives, not prybars. I mean maybe get him both a nice pocket knife and a mini prybar at Ace for $6.00. Find a holster of some kind that will hold both comfortably. That way, the knife will last and maybe be used for it's intended purpose and be there for his camping trips.

Please, I'm not trying to slam your father or start an argument. It's just my opinion.
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no offence taken. these knives have been used over alot of years, not like he took them all out in a matter of like 2 years.

looking back now i think the buck might be a good choice also. i love benchmade quality and the lock, but they are a little overpriced(in my mind)

striders have a lifetime warrenty on them???
 
Buck has a great warranty. I broke the pocket clip on one and they sent me out another in no time at all. This is just one example. I've had little trouble in warranty requests from Buck, Kershaw, Spyderco, Ka-Bar or BenchMade. All have been top notch in my experiences.

If you want to save a few bucks to get him a real nice beater user everyday carry workhorse just get him the Ka-Bar Dozier designed folding hunter. $20 plus or minus.
 
hey Chazz.. as far as I know Strider does have a lifetime warranty... I just emailed them to ask about sharpening and fixing a slight side to side play in the blade...and all they askde for was return shipping...take a look at their website and check out the folders they offer... i never thought that i'd ever end up owning a strider because of some of the knuckle heads that act like owning one is a religion... but now that i do own and use an sng I am begining to understand the enthusiasm... they are really tough knives...the price is high but its worth it...i think your dad would love to try to break one !

note* buck/strider and strider are two different animals.... im sure the buck is tough but i've never used one.
 
The Buck/Striders are tough but in truth and as a very good friend of mine put it, "the Strider/Buck knives are Jeeps and the Striders are Tanks".
 
Excellent suggestions have already been mentioned. I'd also like to include the BM Skirmish for consideration.

However, I think that if there is ONE folder that would very likely stand up to prying, I'd think it'd be an Extrema Ratio. . . but at the cost of cutting performance, as Cliff may note.
 
I`m still gonna say busse or swamp rat. A howling rat or bandicoot would be perfect. So would a heavy duty or something from the mean street family. There is no way he`d be able to destroy a hofsh or hofbm. I am not saying they`re unbreakable but they are darn close.
 
a fixed is out of the question. i have been privilaged enough to hold someones battle mistress when i went camping once! busse is on the top of my b-e-a-u-tiful knives list.

striders seem to be one tough knife, but you need to pay a pretty penny. i would pretty much be sold on the buck/strider. it looks a little beefy though, anyone know how it feels in your pocket?
 
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