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A true moron!
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Rupestris
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So.... this guy can appreciate the classic design of a Vespa but completely misses the point when it comes to other functional, classic designs like the Sodbuster? 
Some would say that riding a Vespa is much more dangerous and lends itself to more severe injuries than a pocket knife when one makes a mistake. Of course that is a matter of opinion too. Not my opinion but there are folks out there that do think riding is dangerous.
If you don't trust yourself enough to use a non-locking knife without chopping off your own fingers, why would you trust yourself to handle a scooter?
Some would say that riding a Vespa is much more dangerous and lends itself to more severe injuries than a pocket knife when one makes a mistake. Of course that is a matter of opinion too. Not my opinion but there are folks out there that do think riding is dangerous.
If you don't trust yourself enough to use a non-locking knife without chopping off your own fingers, why would you trust yourself to handle a scooter?
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LOL! Boy, I better lock up my two Kissign Cranes, my Case Jr, and be glad that Rough Rider Fauz Abalone soddie coming has a liner lock on it! Okay, I couldn't resist the RR at the price since I already have an abalonite muskrat that despite not having a lock (gasp!) does darn good duty as a food scalper and slicer.
How "wise" we seem to ourselves at 20. Especially the morons.
How "wise" we seem to ourselves at 20. Especially the morons.
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Great story and so true!!
Of course here in the PC northeat, if anyone opened so much as a Victorinox Classic at a picnic, half of the prople would faint at the mere sight of it, and the other half would be dialing 911 on their cell phones to report a WMD.
But anyway, I have long thought that the reason that lockback knives more or less "took over" the knife market starting in the 70's, is that by then only a small percentage of kids were raised with or around traditional pocketknives. So a kid gets to his young adult years having no idea that traditional slipjoints are perfectly safe, and assumes that you MUST have a lock on a knife in order to use it safely.
Of course here in the PC northeat, if anyone opened so much as a Victorinox Classic at a picnic, half of the prople would faint at the mere sight of it, and the other half would be dialing 911 on their cell phones to report a WMD.
But anyway, I have long thought that the reason that lockback knives more or less "took over" the knife market starting in the 70's, is that by then only a small percentage of kids were raised with or around traditional pocketknives. So a kid gets to his young adult years having no idea that traditional slipjoints are perfectly safe, and assumes that you MUST have a lock on a knife in order to use it safely.
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I think I'll try a poll on the General Forum, how many people do ya think carry non-locking more traditional style folders.
I'd bet ya(not really) that most people under 30, probably have never even held a slipjoint, muchless a quality one, production or custom.
My generation(Baby Boomers) grew up still seeing and having a slipjoint, remebering Dad, or if you were really lucky Grampa, pull out an old Schrade or Queen and during spring whittling a slide flute or pop gun out a new growth willow branch.
If it's not black, one handed with a cool name most men under 30 aren't interested.
Now I have my fair share of Tactical knives, custom and production, but the bulk of my collection is Traditional.
When I go out I generally carry a few knives, a slipjoint(usually a 3 blade whittler pattern), a locking folder,(one hand "Tactical "Custom) and a fixed blade custom, one for whatever the occasion requires.
Getting back to your post he's just uneducated, there was a good opportunity to convert someone to being responsible and owning a good knife , locking or not.
All the old adages are true,
A sharp knife is much safer than a dull one.
Right tool for the right job.
Ever use a French Laguiole? They're slipjoints, toughest backsping on a folder and still easy to open, if yer lookin' to stab car doors and 55 gallon drums your gonna be spendin' a lot more than $20 and ya better know a lot more about knives.
Brother I gotta sympathize with ya the sheeple out there can be very irritating when they don't know what they're talking about but we have educate to bring 'em over, if they knew, they'd be here already.
Alright it's becoming obvious the NyQuil kickin' in and I shouldn't be writin' no more.
For you guys under 30, sorry for the ramblings of an old man, for ya over 30 guys, keep them old slip joint stories goin', take yer kid, or grandkid out and whittle a stick for roastin' wienies, or marhmallows, they're the ones that'll either be walkin' past our treasured slipjoints in the flea markets and savin' 'em, or the ones sellin' 'em.
Alright I'm done.
I'd bet ya(not really) that most people under 30, probably have never even held a slipjoint, muchless a quality one, production or custom.
My generation(Baby Boomers) grew up still seeing and having a slipjoint, remebering Dad, or if you were really lucky Grampa, pull out an old Schrade or Queen and during spring whittling a slide flute or pop gun out a new growth willow branch.
If it's not black, one handed with a cool name most men under 30 aren't interested.
Now I have my fair share of Tactical knives, custom and production, but the bulk of my collection is Traditional.
When I go out I generally carry a few knives, a slipjoint(usually a 3 blade whittler pattern), a locking folder,(one hand "Tactical "Custom) and a fixed blade custom, one for whatever the occasion requires.
Getting back to your post he's just uneducated, there was a good opportunity to convert someone to being responsible and owning a good knife , locking or not.
All the old adages are true,
A sharp knife is much safer than a dull one.
Right tool for the right job.
Ever use a French Laguiole? They're slipjoints, toughest backsping on a folder and still easy to open, if yer lookin' to stab car doors and 55 gallon drums your gonna be spendin' a lot more than $20 and ya better know a lot more about knives.
Brother I gotta sympathize with ya the sheeple out there can be very irritating when they don't know what they're talking about but we have educate to bring 'em over, if they knew, they'd be here already.
Alright it's becoming obvious the NyQuil kickin' in and I shouldn't be writin' no more.
For you guys under 30, sorry for the ramblings of an old man, for ya over 30 guys, keep them old slip joint stories goin', take yer kid, or grandkid out and whittle a stick for roastin' wienies, or marhmallows, they're the ones that'll either be walkin' past our treasured slipjoints in the flea markets and savin' 'em, or the ones sellin' 'em.
Alright I'm done.
It's got nothing to do with age, I've seen both old fools and young fools. This guy definitely has some learning to do.
I find it interesting that most people seem to think older people gravitate to slipjoints and younger to lockbacks. I went the other way, gravitating towards lockbacks as I got older. I find lockbacks far more practical, but like to carry slipjoints for sentimental reasons. To each their own.
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I grew up with:
"A gentleman wears a hat, carries a handkerchief and a pocket knife."
Here's my Dad's knife and stone. He carried that as long as I can remember (I was born in '56) and only stopped when I got him a big ol' SAK in the mid 80's.
The poor knife sat in a bag in the garage for 7 years...all that time I thought it was lost forever.
That young fellow had no clue.
Last week I went to the supply closet at work. The box we needed was taped shut. There was a table full of Olfa knives and razor blades a couple of steps away. I used my CRKT Mirage from my pocket.
My young coworker asked me if I always carry a hunting knife.
I explained that it is just like the Olfa knife on the table but
A. Much closer (so I didn't have to send you over there for it)
and
B. Better to carry in my pocket.
Then I offered to bring in a hunting knife for him to see
"A gentleman wears a hat, carries a handkerchief and a pocket knife."
Here's my Dad's knife and stone. He carried that as long as I can remember (I was born in '56) and only stopped when I got him a big ol' SAK in the mid 80's.
The poor knife sat in a bag in the garage for 7 years...all that time I thought it was lost forever.
That young fellow had no clue.
Last week I went to the supply closet at work. The box we needed was taped shut. There was a table full of Olfa knives and razor blades a couple of steps away. I used my CRKT Mirage from my pocket.
My young coworker asked me if I always carry a hunting knife.
I explained that it is just like the Olfa knife on the table but
A. Much closer (so I didn't have to send you over there for it)
and
B. Better to carry in my pocket.
Then I offered to bring in a hunting knife for him to see
I had a similar mentality regarding locks on knives in my earlier years. The first quality knives I had were a Buck 110 and an Endura. Based on those purchases I naturally assumed a good knife had a lock on it. This was during my Army days when I thought a knife should be both tool and weapon. I was tactical before tactical was cool. 
It took me a while before I could appreciate the simplicity of a slipjoint. What really made me turn the corner was purchasing a SAK for a camping trip after reading so much SAK praise here on Blade Forums. SAKs eventually led me to traditional pattern slipjoints. SAK's and Traditionals now make up a large portion of my collection.
Don't be so hard on the moron. Some of us used to be that moron.
It took me a while before I could appreciate the simplicity of a slipjoint. What really made me turn the corner was purchasing a SAK for a camping trip after reading so much SAK praise here on Blade Forums. SAKs eventually led me to traditional pattern slipjoints. SAK's and Traditionals now make up a large portion of my collection.
Don't be so hard on the moron. Some of us used to be that moron.
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Rupestris said:So.... this guy can appreciate the classic design of a Vespa but completely misses the point when it comes to other functional, classic designs like the Sodbuster?
Well, slipjoints aren't trendy, y'know. Thank goodness.
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Rupestris said:So.... this guy can appreciate the classic design of a Vespa but completely misses the point when it comes to other functional, classic designs like the Sodbuster?
Some would say that riding a Vespa is much more dangerous and lends itself to more severe injuries than a pocket knife when one makes a mistake. Of course that is a matter of opinion too. Not my opinion but there are folks out there that do think riding is dangerous.
If you don't trust yourself enough to use a non-locking knife without chopping off your own fingers, why would you trust yourself to handle a scooter?
My thoughts exactly; 2 stroke, unreliable, low center of gravity, wheels too small, and a grip shift? I love them, but safe? ummm...no.
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Great thread and excellent post, Jackknife! Im glad you were able to show some people how useful a sodbuster can be. My large Eye Brand sodbuster is one of my favorite knives; it has a comfortable handle, a strong backspring, and the blade takes an extremely sharp edge.
I just recently became interested in slip-joints, but now thats pretty much all I carry. There are certainly times when a one-hand-opening folder with a clip can come in handy, but I get more pleasure from using traditional slip-joints for some reason.
I just recently became interested in slip-joints, but now thats pretty much all I carry. There are certainly times when a one-hand-opening folder with a clip can come in handy, but I get more pleasure from using traditional slip-joints for some reason.
Dijos said:
Actually no more unsafe than a barlow knife compared to a Buck 110. When used within the parameters of its preformance, and you understand it, its no more unsafe than a motorcycle.
A Vespa, like a slip joint has to be understood by its user. I have'nt had a mishap in 40 years.
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Theres people like that all over the place, forget them.
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I've observed the same type mentality in the younger gun crows. My favorage is my old Browning HiPower 9mm which is single action. The younger shooters always decry that it's dangerous and there should only be double actions. My answer is not dnagerous at all if you know what you're doing and how to handle it. I'm going for a Kimber .45 single action next. Sign, the youngsters [forum youngsters exempted] just are so ignorant whether it be guns or knives.