A true moron!

Well, I've carried a slippie or three since the second grade, starting with a boyscout pattern, and also a UMC metal handle utility folder that was made during WWII by Kingston Cutlery company. (the company was a joint venture by Ulster and some other factory I don't recall now.) That Kingston knife was in near mint condition when I got it, complete with blade etching. Carried it for 15 years or so, and had all the edges of the handle rounded over from wear by then.

Pistols? I learned on Dad's Ruger single-six (the old three-screw model, by the way.), and carry a single action often when out in the woods, and a 1911 too.

I also carry one-handed locking knives.
Age doesn't have much to do with it in my eyes. I don't see it around here, anyway.
 
sodak said:
It's got nothing to do with age, I've seen both old fools and young fools. This guy definitely has some learning to do.
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Very true and I don't mean to overlook the old fools. A high school friend's dad was an arrogant, abusive, know it all jerk back then. I ran into the old man about a year ago or so. Yep, pretty much arrogant and full of himself still. There are some Celtic lines in my family and I've never heard a Scot or an Irishman pronounce Celtic other than with a K sound. Yet this guy corrected me by repeating it after I'd said (K)eltic saying it with like the basketball team, (S)eltic. I'd dare say more morons and jerks just become old morons and jerks and only a limited number learn and mature.

If I recall from seeing his posts on the Wilderness Survival folder, our own Vivi is a young fellow. Yet I was impressed with his desire to learn outdoor survival skills by praticing and maintaining them so he could take a minimalist approach and be skills and mentally equipped to make his way in the woods. He got pounced on by most would be survivors for even suggesting going out into the woods without a fully outfitted survival pack. I thought he showed great sense and maturity in recognizing that all this stuff could get separated from you and only if you had practiced primitive skills would you really stand a chance. Darn smart and reasonable thinking for anyone and expecially for a young man. Oh yeah, and he asks others about things and takes things into consideration.

Maybe Vivi can teach some of his similar aged friends a bit about traditional in a lot of things.
 
Good story thanks for sharing:thumbup: :thumbup:
I like slippies & lockbacks best for folders. I don't need a quick draw & I'm not a fan of thumbstuds have a couple of customs with studs but too often I find they are badly postioned.

I'm suprised this young bloke didn't cut himself with pos knife as it sounds like he has no idea!

Wonder what he'ld make of the custom friction folder I've got coming & plan on using.

Mitch
 
Amos Iron Wolf said:
There are some Celtic lines in my family and I've never heard a Scot or an Irishman pronounce Celtic other than with a K sound. Yet this guy corrected me by repeating it after I'd said (K)eltic saying it with like the basketball team, (S)eltic. I'd dare say more morons and jerks just become old morons and jerks and only a limited number learn and mature.

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He sounds like an orangeman!:mad:
 
Thank you for the kind words Amos, it's refreshing to my dreams to hear someone speak kindly of them.

It's interesting to me that whenever I tell someone my age of my desires to be able to live freely in the wilderness using my own skills and knowledge, the first thing they do is bring up questions like How will you get online? How will you shower? What, no sex? Where will you sleep?

Most of their questions have a pretty easy answer. Bathe in clean streams, sleep under improvished shelters on bedding made of vegetation and naturally living this way you're going to be giving up a few modern items.

I did take my friends out to the woods to show them how I start a fire using wood shavings and fuzz sticks, and they both liked using my SAK more than the CRKT M18 folder I brought. Of course the SAK had a more efficient grind for the work we were doing, but it still made me smile to see a SAK receive the appreciation it deserves.

It's difficult for me to get anyone my age out into some woods. When they go, there are generally two reactions I get. One is they absolutely loved it, and the other is they're never coming back unless mosquitos go extinct. :)

I'm 19 FYI.

EDIT: There is an interesting trend at these forums. In Practical Tactical, you see a lot about knife draws, the best blade to carry etc. You see a lot less about physical and mental conditioning. In Wilderness survival, theres a lot of discussion about gear and what I feel is a disproportionate amount of talk discussing skills. Same with knives in general, tons of talk about new steels and what your favorite production knives are, far less talk about how to maintain your knife.
 
Vivi said:
There is an interesting trend at these forums. In Practical Tactical, you see a lot about knife draws, the best blade to carry etc. You see a lot less about physical and mental conditioning. In Wilderness survival, theres a lot of discussion about gear and what I feel is a disproportionate amount of talk discussing skills. Same with knives in general, tons of talk about new steels and what your favorite production knives are, far less talk about how to maintain your knife.
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See what I mean. He makes good sense.

It's true, and has been for as long as men have been gathering that tools get a lot of press (talk) while proper use and care of them doesn't. Good old workhorse gear generally doesn't come off with the glamour and ooh-ahh factor that the latest, greatest, shiniest, darkest, coolest does. I thihk a lot of times these things get so much emphasis just so we can convince ourselves that we just have to have it, when in reality we just want it. Worse, is that we want to put the emphasis on the tools and latest techniques because they are easier to focus on than correcting our own shortcomings. Edited to add: Focusing on good, old, reliable stuff instead of the latest, greatest, doesn't sell magazines or adspace.

A lot of really great hunting calibers have gone down the path of obsolecence, such as the .358 Winchester, while whizbang calibers are brought out and bought up in fancy rifles. Many of those caliber/rifle combos will never get past the shooting range, but the guy can sit there and brag about how with this sweet setup he can shoot the eyelashes off an antelope at 600 yards on a windy day in a downpour. Never mind that he will only be shooting out of a fancy deer blind over a feeder less than a hundred yards away and he only "hunts" when it isn't raining.

I meantioned it before, but with a SAK, a Mora, a decent axe, and a break-action, single shot shotgun, a fellow would be well set to run the woods and do pretty well. When you come down to it, I've generally reach for the same knives all the time and not one of them is a high dollar special made item. One thing I appreciate in this folder is that while we all enjoy the high end stuff, either to own or just to look at, pretty much anyone in here is quick to admit that they can get by on some pretty simple, straightforward cutlery.

The dog is telling me to get off the soapbox and take her out. Duty, or something that rhymes calls.
 
On that last note, I've got a Manix sitting next to me. While it's a superb knife, probably one of the best to come out of the tactical craze, it can't hold a candle to my Opinels as far as pocket-time goes.

I'm surprised so few people here seem to enjoy knife sharpening. It's one of my favorite ways to relax.
 
Just stumbled across this thread.
Jackknife, funny story, thanks for posting it.

I agree, most young morons will most likely grow into older morons (instead of becoming enlightened). There is a difference, however, between the uninformed/misinformed and the morons. Hopefully, those of us who have the opportunity to come into contact with these people will be able to set them straight before it's too late; the un- or misinformed are in danger of becoming morons, if they are left to their own (or the other morons') devices.
Vivi, good thoughts. You remind me of me. :D
 
Vivi said:
On that last note, I've got a Manix sitting next to me. While it's a superb knife, probably one of the best to come out of the tactical craze, it can't hold a candle to my Opinels as far as pocket-time goes.

I'm surprised so few people here seem to enjoy knife sharpening. It's one of my favorite ways to relax.
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Those Opinels are about the biggest bang for the buck around! In spite of my love of sodbusters and old barlows, I still will keep my opys around and carry one now and then. Wicked sharp. Not bad for a knife that been in continous production since 1890.

Their're kind of like my old Smith and Wesson model 10's, a bit dated but still effective as hell.
 
I like carrying a lock knife, and love the sense of security that it gives. I do know that it is a false sense of security, and I avoid doing 'dumb stuff' though I will use it for more forceful cutting tasks. However, I also enjoy carrying and using slipjoints and SAK's- and lately they have been seeing a lot more action.

For he who is scared of slipjoints, but wants a classic pattern- all hope is not lost. There aqre opinels, which lock. Case makes the Russlock, and there are Traditional Lock backs like the Buck 110.

My first pocket knife was a slip joint, and that never caused , me an accident.
 
I know this goes without saying, but not all young people are morons.

I am a 23-year-old knife knut and while slipjoints are not my favorite style of knife, I have 4 or 5 slippies and 5 or 6 SAKs. I just got a Queen D2 Cocobolo small stockman last week.

The problem with that moron isn't that he is young. It is that he isn't a knife person. He doesn't know about a subject that he, well, doesn't know about.

It is his arrogance (not his ignorance) that makes him a moron.
 
Latecomer to this thread, but according to Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure which was on last night;

"The only true knowledge is the knowledge that we know nothing" - Socrates

This may be more on the cosmic level than the situation being discussed here, but there are still lots of ties.

My personal opinion is that there is always somebody who knows more than you so if you don't know what your talking about, it will catch up to you eventually. You can only fool people for so long, so why do it in the first place.
 
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