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A warning for y'all zip tie tinkerers...
- Thread starter Runs With Scissors
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It isn't just the speed for self defense. I have no knife training and wouldn't think of whipping out a knife even defensively unless I adjudged my life to be forefit anyway... But I still like <i>tip up</i> carry. Why? Because you don't have to turn the knife around or hyper-extend your wrist to deploy it! I was once dangling over a 30' roof on a bosun's chair (and I don't like heights), and I had to deploy my folder with my left hand occupied keeping a rope slack (or taught, I can't remember), but I was very glad that I did not have to flip the knife around in my hand or tweak my wrist to set or draw the knife with my thumb near the pivot end.
I have folders of both variety, and I have been bitten in classic tip up form by only <i>one knife</i>, so I do understand the risk. Its done it to me twice too, so there is just something about this particular knife's shape (it has a noticable ball detent snick when it closes), and the spot on my waist band where it sits that sometimes causes this problem. I've learned to make sure every once in a while that my tip-up knives are sitting snug.
Of course these days if I was sitting in a bosun's chair, I'd probably have a small fixed blade on me and avoid the whole problem altogether!
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Seems like this thread has gone in two directions:
1. Zipties - good or bad?
2. I was bitten by a tip-up/tip-down knife
My opinions:
1. I'll try out the ziptie on one of my tip-ups. It's a lockback, so I don't know how the closing bias will affect the opening. I think if the ziptie didn't get a good grip on the back of my pocket, the knife would close (a potentially dangerous situation). But of course my curiosity means that I'll definitely try it out
2. I once sat down with a tip-down in my back left pocket, my rear-end caught the thumbstud, and the blade opened, poking a hole in my pants. Good thing it was a small hole. As a matter of fact, I'm wearing that pair of pants right now. So I wasn't bitten, but my pants were.
I actually think that tip-down is more dangerous, since I carry tip-up knives at the back of the pocket, as some people have mentioned. Whenever I put my hands in my pockets, I run my finger down the top of the spine of tip-down folders, to make sure they're closed.
1. Zipties - good or bad?
2. I was bitten by a tip-up/tip-down knife
My opinions:
1. I'll try out the ziptie on one of my tip-ups. It's a lockback, so I don't know how the closing bias will affect the opening. I think if the ziptie didn't get a good grip on the back of my pocket, the knife would close (a potentially dangerous situation). But of course my curiosity means that I'll definitely try it out
2. I once sat down with a tip-down in my back left pocket, my rear-end caught the thumbstud, and the blade opened, poking a hole in my pants.
Good thing it was a small hole. As a matter of fact, I'm wearing that pair of pants right now. So I wasn't bitten, but my pants were.I actually think that tip-down is more dangerous, since I carry tip-up knives at the back of the pocket, as some people have mentioned. Whenever I put my hands in my pockets, I run my finger down the top of the spine of tip-down folders, to make sure they're closed.
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First, I've not yet been sold on the usefullness of putting a large hole in a blade. It seems to me like it could only weaken the blade.
While I've never used an Emerson with the WAVE feature, I can open my knives fast enough with a thumbstud and a little wrist action.
I'm with youngcutter, I prefer tip up carry and have found it to be infallibly safe providing that you slide the knife up against the rear seam of the pocket opening on my right front pants pocket. Frankly, I can't imagine carrying a pocket clip knife anywhere else. To me this is the only place that the knife is out of the way for accessing the other things in my pocket (money, keys, etc..).
My general EDC rotation includes three tip ups (Small Sebenza, Benchmade BM941 and Cold Steel medium Voyager) and only one tip down (Microtech Socom Elite vintage 6/2000). I can easily deploy and count on all of these knives to do just about whatever the job at hand might be.
The only knife that has ever bit me in my pocket was a William Henry Carbon Lancet (T-10CF) Which is tip down. When placed in the same position in my right front pocket, I reached in to grab my cash and came out with the money and a cut on the back of my hand. I still love that knife and am currently lusting after the new BC coated Executive version, I just don't carry it except for on special occasions, and then I'm real careful.
I'm also with GronK, I think I'll tip another brew!
I think this subject most certainly comes down to a matter of personal preference.
The idea about the zip tie is interesting and I'll pass it on to my step son who does seem to like those spydie things.
You most definitely do need to smoothe off the cut off part as I've opened my hand up several times on the sharp part of what's left when you cut a zip tie with wire cutters.
jmx
While I've never used an Emerson with the WAVE feature, I can open my knives fast enough with a thumbstud and a little wrist action.
I'm with youngcutter, I prefer tip up carry and have found it to be infallibly safe providing that you slide the knife up against the rear seam of the pocket opening on my right front pants pocket. Frankly, I can't imagine carrying a pocket clip knife anywhere else. To me this is the only place that the knife is out of the way for accessing the other things in my pocket (money, keys, etc..).
My general EDC rotation includes three tip ups (Small Sebenza, Benchmade BM941 and Cold Steel medium Voyager) and only one tip down (Microtech Socom Elite vintage 6/2000). I can easily deploy and count on all of these knives to do just about whatever the job at hand might be.
The only knife that has ever bit me in my pocket was a William Henry Carbon Lancet (T-10CF) Which is tip down. When placed in the same position in my right front pocket, I reached in to grab my cash and came out with the money and a cut on the back of my hand. I still love that knife and am currently lusting after the new BC coated Executive version, I just don't carry it except for on special occasions, and then I'm real careful.
I'm also with GronK, I think I'll tip another brew!
I think this subject most certainly comes down to a matter of personal preference.
The idea about the zip tie is interesting and I'll pass it on to my step son who does seem to like those spydie things.
You most definitely do need to smoothe off the cut off part as I've opened my hand up several times on the sharp part of what's left when you cut a zip tie with wire cutters.
jmx