AARRGH! Never leave your knife unattended at home!!

Medic1210

Medic1210

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I've been using my Kershaw Chive to wrap presents all night. I keep a highly polished edge on it, and it really does a good job with wrapping paper. Well, I left the knife on the table while I assembled a toy for my daughter. Well, I look up to find what?? My wife using the Chive to try and cut a heavy wire tie:eek: :eek:! You know, the ones that are used now to tie toys to their box and make parents go crazy trying to untie all of them? Well, you can imagine what my edge looked like after I calmly (biting my tongue, counting to 10) took the knife from my wife. The kershaw has a 15 degree bevel and 420 stainless, so as you would expect, the edge was rolled and chipped all to hell! :mad::mad:AARRGH!:mad::mad: Well after a few minutes on the steel, and another 10 minutes or so on the Sharpmaker, followed by several minutes stropping on a shoelace charged with white compound (I find the flat shoelace works the small recurve of the chive better than leather), the edge is back to it's prior condition. Just thought I would pass on my experience and fair warning to all you knife nuts with non-knife nut spouses:mad: . Not exactly how I wanted to be spending the first few hours of Christmas morning (01:30). Well, I hope all you have a Merry Christmas. Keep 'em sharp, and keep 'em in your posession;).

Take Care,

Mike
 
Originally posted by Medic1210
My wife using the Chive to try and cut a heavy wire tie:eek: :eek:! You know, the ones that are used now to tie toys to their box and make parents go crazy trying to untie all of them?
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So the question is ... just WHAT is one supposed to use to cut those damn things!?!
 
Good Evening All-

Throw?, the correct tool would be wirecutters typically used by electricians....especially if you're at home and these tools are readily available.

Again, welcome to Bladeforums...

~ Blue Jays ~
 
I've seen some pretty messed-up Micras (or is that Micrae?) with chipped-up scissors, from clipping wires. A better choice would be a SOG Crossgrip or a Leatherman Squirt P4, with dedicated wire clippers.

However I doubt that a non-knifenut or non-gadget person would carry one of these around, *just in case* they ever run into wires that need clipping. :) Maybe just let your wife know that knives are not good things to clip wires with.
 
Or you could just buy a Sebenza!:D I had a chive that I opened mail with. It was it was a cool little knife. I wish I hadn't traded it off.But It kinda reminds me of the old saying, " You can do small cutting jobs with a Big Knife, but you can't do big cutting jobs with a Small Knife"
 
My Swiss Army Mechanic has pliers on them with a wire cutting section that works great for those little wires!

Sad tale there with the Chive, but it sounds like a nice knife!
G2
 
Originally posted by seaplane
Or you could just buy a Sebenza!:D I had a chive that I opened mail with. It was it was a cool little knife. I wish I hadn't traded it off.But It kinda reminds me of the old saying, " You can do small cutting jobs with a Big Knife, but you can't do big cutting jobs with a Small Knife"
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I wouldn't even try and cut one of these things with a Sebenza. You really need wire cutters. They look like about 18 gague solid wire with plastic coating. Actually, you don't even have to cut them, they are just twisted. All you need to do is untwist them, but the wife got tired of untwisting, and saw the Chive laying there:grumpy:.

Originally posted by Gary W. Graley
Sad tale there with the Chive, but it sounds like a nice knife!
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It is a nice little knife. I actually use it more than some of my other knives for routing little tasks, which is probably what the majority of us do with our knives. I like the small recurve blade, and the thin 15 degree bevel. Takes a wicked edge....but just doesn't stand up to wire cutting. But, then again, I didn't buy it for wire cutting:).

Mike
 
hmmm, i cut 18 gauge wire all the time for electronics projects, however i usualy use wire cutters. However there have been times when i left the wirecutters elsewhere and was in a hurry, my PCKS Buck 110 makes short work of it, with no to very little edge damage as far as i can tell. BG42 however is craploads better than 420 though. I find it also helps if you cut into it at a pretty steep angle and use most of the cutting surface to cut it.
 
Medic, when you say the Chive has a 15 deg bevel, does that mean using the 30 deg. slots on the Spyderco Sharpmaker? Do you use the flat side of the fine stones as the final step (before stropping) as spyderco recommends in the video?
 
Originally posted by Medic1210
I've been using my Kershaw Chive to wrap presents all night. I keep a highly polished edge on it, and it really does a good job with wrapping paper. Well, I left the knife on the table while I assembled a toy for my daughter. Well, I look up to find what?? My wife using the Chive to try and cut a heavy wire tie:eek: :eek:! You know, the ones that are used now to tie toys to their box and make parents go crazy trying to untie all of them? Well, you can imagine what my edge looked like after I calmly (biting my tongue, counting to 10) took the knife from my wife. The kershaw has a 15 degree bevel and 420 stainless, so as you would expect, the edge was rolled and chipped all to hell! :mad::mad:AARRGH!:mad::mad: Well after a few minutes on the steel, and another 10 minutes or so on the Sharpmaker, followed by several minutes stropping on a shoelace charged with white compound (I find the flat shoelace works the small recurve of the chive better than leather), the edge is back to it's prior condition. Just thought I would pass on my experience and fair warning to all you knife nuts with non-knife nut spouses:mad: . Not exactly how I wanted to be spending the first few hours of Christmas morning (01:30). Well, I hope all you have a Merry Christmas. Keep 'em sharp, and keep 'em in your posession;).

Take Care,

Mike
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Man, it looks like you NEED to buy your wife a "Saws-All" or AT LEAST a SOG PowerLock, and HIDE that Chive somewhere.:eek:.
 
Originally posted by Rifter
hmmm, i cut 18 gauge wire all the time for electronics projects, however i usualy use wire cutters. However there have been times when i left the wirecutters elsewhere and was in a hurry, my PCKS Buck 110 makes short work of it, with no to very little edge damage as far as i can tell. BG42 however is craploads better than 420 though. I find it also helps if you cut into it at a pretty steep angle and use most of the cutting surface to cut it.
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Difference being copper verses steel wire...;)
 
Originally posted by Medic1210
The kershaw has a 15 degree bevel and 420 stainless, so as you would expect, the edge was rolled and chipped all to hell!
Mike
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I've recently gone to using the wider 25 degree bevel, it's a little more work to get it hair popping sharp, but with the new steels, S30V for example, I find it makes for an edge at least ten times more durable and resistant to abuse. Not only does the edge last a lot longer, and is much easier to "touch up" with white ceramic rods and a strop, yet if I'm patient and do a good job with it, it'll still slice paper and shave hair as well as any thin bevel.

Now I committed the ultimate sin!!!! My wife an I agreed that this year, instead of getting eachother gifts, we would wait till the after Chrismas sales, and spend money on fixing up the house instead. New tile, landscaping, etc... so being a typical man, I follwed the plan!

This morning I was treated to several small but nice gifts, and had nothing for the BOSS-LADY except the, "Butt...I thought we agreed?" excuse! Now that one's gonna leave a mark!
 
Yeah, I wouldn't worry about anyone in my family damaging the edge. I do that my self often times;) , but a little time sharpening and the edge is good as new, or better. I worry more about someone cutting a finger off, my family only has dull knives, and I have seen them do some scary things. I would also worry about someone using a knife and not cleaning it for hours(especially my new Murray Carter paring knife). I keep all of my knives in my room, and don't worry about them.
 
Originally posted by Throw?
So the question is ... just WHAT is one supposed to use to cut those damn things!?!
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A razor blade. Everyone knows you don't cut that with a perfectly good knife, axe, or multitool:D . Just my opinion.


-DC2
 
My family passed around the Microtech SE last night. A few of those darn wire ties must have been present, as the edge has a few minor dings. Nothing that can't be fixed. What burns me up after reading your post is that I GAVE it to them when asked. It was so unfairm I'm watching tv and just handed my poor knife away without asking why they wanted it, lol
 
Originally posted by AlonzoMosely
Medic, when you say the Chive has a 15 deg bevel, does that mean using the 30 deg. slots on the Spyderco Sharpmaker? Do you use the flat side of the fine stones as the final step (before stropping) as spyderco recommends in the video?
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Yes, and no. Yes for the 30 degree slots. No for the flat side. I find with the small recurve, the flats don't work too well. I use the white corners and then strop with a flat athletic shoelace charged with White polishing compound found as Sears. I like the thin edge that came from Kershaw for the tasks I use the Chive for.

Mike
 
I know your pain....I've been victim of that same situation more times than I'd like to talk about. The worst thing is when you get it back , closed, COVERED in glue from packing tape:barf:
Matt
 
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