ABS Exposition-Reno, in review, with a pic-long

Kohai999

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Hey all,

I left S.D. at 7:30 pm Friday night for the Expo. When we landed, it was a lot colder than I expected, 23 degrees that night. Coming from SoCal, my blood has thinned, so I figured that affected me more. I could not find a non-stop flight, so it takes 3 hours and change to fly from S.D. to Reno.

I called Matt Diskin, and found him in the lounge at the Silver Legacy hotel. He claims that the nicest hotel in Reno is on par with the San Remo(which was like a model for the Cooler, a film with William Macy) in Las Vegas, but he has never stayed at the Best Western in Downtown Las Vegas, by Cashman Field. It has an 8' fence around it, and bars on the windows too. I thought Reno was nice, much less packed than Las Vegas would have been, and I was looking for a more mellow experience, more like a vacation.

I was on the fence about going to Reno until I called Don Fogg, and he said that he would have time for me. The other factors were hanging out with Matt, possibly getting a knife from Nick Wheeler, and finalizing, face to face, some order details with Larry Fuegen.

So, we endure the lounge singers for a while, Brittney Spears-esque style, with about an extra 40 lbs of junk in the trunk, and go up to Matt's room, because I had bought a bunch of stuff for show and tell.

Matt hands me this really cool Med. style bowie, which I thought he was trying to sell me. Super great work, but not my style. So, after 5 years of telling him my likes and dislikes, I ask "THIS is what you want in my collection?" Thinking that my communication skills have disintegrated. He says no, he just wants me to see it. Nice piece, but WHEW, my gut sank. The one that he made with me in mind is superlative, a real keeper. 3" damascus folder with pearl, just my style.

I gave Matt an O-tanto from Cold Steel that I have been training with for a year, because I got a new one, and I thought that he would like messing with it-the grinds are off, and the finish is scuffed. Even if he blows it, the fittings are excellent, and would be hard to replace for less than $400.

We go down to the coffee shop for some club sandwiches (not bad, reasonably priced) and shoot the bull for a while, and now it is like 3:00 am. Time for bed.

I get to the show at 10:30 a.m. on Saturday, after a stop to the bank, because I brain farted and left my checkbook at home. Houston Price is at the ticket counter, and after a 5 minute chat, encourages me to join the ABS, and gives me a VIP pass. Not that it is a big deal or anything, but the thought is really pleasant. I view the silent auction knives, and they are a real treat for the eyes. Moran, Hendrickson, Winkler, Hancock, Fuegen, Bradshaw, just to name a few, because I have forgotten who else contributed, no slights intended towards anyone.

I make a beeline for Wheeler's table to see if that Jelly Roll fighter is still available that Roger posted in the Reno preview, and it was. I took it, but Nick has to make a sheath for it.

Whatever your feeling is about it, a sheath knife without a sheath is a letter opener, and I don't collect those. Makers, either make a sheath or buy one, but a Bill's case is not an acceptable substitute unless the knife is so out of the realm of realistically carrying that a sheath becomes obsolete. It is an additional hassle for the collector to commission a sheath, in terms of wait time and money, and we already had to go through that with you guys. Sheesh, do us a favor will ya?

Lots and lots of nice knives. Bailey's engraved folder was beautiful, and the hanger sword in progress looks to be another winner. I was tempted with a bowie style that he had, but not tempted enough. Bailey and I spent about an hour talking about martial arts, and Iai, specifically, which is Japanese quick draw swordsmanship. Good exchange of information, good vibes. I would seriously like to cross train with him, but I doubt that either of us will have the time.

Joss got the super duper Fogg that I did not get to see, but Randy was put out, 'cause he wanted it. Good job Joss, how come you only stayed for one day? I was hoping to meet you.

The maker still stuck in my head is Burt Foster. He had/has a camp knife set that floored me, it's just that the camp knife is so big, and I don't have that much room left to store it. Beautiful temperline, perfect finish, nice medium sized matching drop point hunter, great leather, perfect wood, and damascus bolsters, total package price=$1,500. Basically the price of one good knife from anybody else. I thought it was the deal of the day, and was surprised it was still on his table. I am still torn about calling him and buying it, but he makes what he calls a Blue Bowie that I want more. Act now boys, and girls, this is an ABS Master Smith charging JS prices with a 4 month wait time. My prediction is that by Blade, it is closer to a year. BTW, he is really tall, and looks like he just graduated from high school, but if you meet him, look at his hands. They will tell you how hard he works with them. Got a grip like a bear trap for a handshake, too.

The knife I am posting the pic of is by Murray Carter. Murray is a strange one, the first time I met him he put me off with his combination of arrogance and complete lack of patience. Perception is everything. I managed at that point to part with $60.00 for one of his Muteki kitchen knives, and it is the sharpest knife in the rack.

This one is White steel core with mild steel and nickel over it. Ironwood Scales. Kydex sheath. I put the tech lok on last night, because I had a spare, and it increases the utility. Blade is about 4.5" long.

Murray says that he is moving to Oregon, which should improve his manner somewhat. Being a Canadian stuck in Japan has got to be hard, and take a toll on how to approach people. Truth be told, Murray was a lot nicer at this show than he was at the Blade West where I bought the kitchen knife. He did a pretty good job of getting under my skin at that show. He has the most bizarre style of sharpening a knife that I have ever seen, and would dearly like to see him enter a rope cutting contest. Here's the pic, and I will continue about the evening on Saturday, later.

Best Regards,

Steven Garsson
 

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Thanks for the review Steven - most enjoyable. Wish I could have been there.

Roger
 
Hi Steven,

I would have enjoyed meeting you too. I left Saturday at 1:30 (well, except that the plane was 1hr delayed), and I spent the morning being lazy and going to the Patagonia outlet store with a friend.

I hate Reno with a passion - nothing to do and lousy, lousy food. I love this show, but I never stay longer than I have to to get my pic of the show and see what's on the tables. The 1st year I stayed the full 2 or 3 days (I remember it was the day the space shuttle desintegrated upon re-entry), and after 1/2 day I was bored to tears.

As to how I got the sword, it was easy - all it required is dedication. I was at the door early enough to make sure I was first in line (the doors open at 11am). It was well worth it. I'll post pics of the sword when I have some worthy of it, but it's clearly the Numero Uno in my collection. I did the same thing last year and will do it again next year. Best time investment I've ever made.

Strangely enough, I had forgotten my bookcheck too. Once I had agreed with Don I was taking the sword, I had to go to the post office and buy a bunch of money orders. :rolleyes: :D

I agree that Burt Foster's camp rocks, and in fact I'm seriously considering placing an order for one. The other knives that really stuck w/ me were:
- Don's camp knife, inspired by Fikes' Jungle Honey, with an extrordinary hamon with utsuri. Unfortunately, he was just bringing it for show (or delivery - it was already sold)
- a HUGE cord wrapped blade by Jason Knight
- a very nice antique micarta-handled carving knife w/ si. bronze bolster by Jim Rodebaugh
- a superb studded-handle knife by Tim Hancock

There were many other great, great knives, and those are the ones I remember best. The other one (but it sold early) was a sweet little garter dagger Bailey Bradshaw had brought. The handle was carved in one of the thickest piece of MOP I've ever seen.... It was lovely.

JD
 
I had a GREAT time!

It was great seeing everyone, makers and show goers alike :)

I agree with Joss, I really don't care for Reno much. If you find the right place there is good food, but for the most part it's like high school lunch ;)

Lots of strange people with way too much smoke in the air.

BUT... that's Reno.

As far as the show, it is THE premier forged blade show. I am both proud and humbled to be a part of it.

The sword that Joss got from Don is just absolutely STUNNING. One of the most amazing pieces I've ever seen.

I won't even try to mention everyone that I got to bs with there's so many of you guys I'm bound to forget a name...but we all had a GREAT time both at the show and in the after-hours.

Simply an awesome week-end!!!
-Nick-

http://www.wheelerknives.com
 
Kohai999 said:
The maker still stuck in my head is Burt Foster. Act now boys, and girls, this is an ABS Master Smith charging JS prices with a 4 month wait time. Steven Garsson

Steven, SSHHHHH! Burt is supposed to be one of my little secrets.

;) :)
 
This is the other piece Don had, inspired by a Fikes' Jungle Honey - a Polynesian camp knife maybe?

This knife has the most incredible utsuri I've ever seen.

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This is the Diskin Folder. Tell me what you think. It is hard to scan pearl
 

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It's tough to photograph pearl at the best of times, much less scan it. That's a sweet folder though. :D

Roger
 
Well Steven, Photoshop can help a bit. :)

And for that Fogg, let me just say...
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You did what I would have done, but now you cannot see the damascus blade as well. There is always a tradeoff :)

I'll post the rest later.

Best Regards,

Steven Garsson
 
Joss,

I spoke with Don about the ....abundant utsuri on the blade you have pictured. He said he posted pictures of a piece to some collectors unfamiliar with his work. One asked if he could produce a blade with utsuri again...(as if it were an accident...) (all this in good humor please :D ) . Don said this piece was a sort of "in your face" statement on his ability to do so. I should say so.......

BTW, you got the best piece of the show IMHO. Your sword is just too much for me to put into words.
 
Hey All,

Takin' me a while to finish here.

I liked the blade on the Fogg but not the handle, and got a chance to chat with the Master for about 3 hours total at the show, covering a wide range of subjects. The blade pictured above is too "mishmosh" for me. Neo Japanese blade with a decidedly Indonesian handle. Whatever, you guys like it, I am happy for you, and Don likes it. A blade is part of a whole knife for me, not just the blade, which is a decidedly un Nihonto perspective. Some will understand this, some will not.

Don was very giving of his time, and suffered my coarseness and bluntness with a courtly demeanor. He offered advice, and made his time available. That was one of the high points for me. I glanced at his portfolio, but frankly, have been collecting pictures of his work for 20 years, so there was a lot in his portfolio that I already have pictures of. I credit Don for teaching a lot of the newer smiths about temper lines or hamon. His are some of the best, and he is an excellent teacher. I asked him if he had time for dinner, but he said that he had other plans.

The silent auction knives went for lower prices than I expected. Had I brought my checkbook, I would have been in trouble. The Bailey Bradshaw auction knife and Larry Fuegen donation knives would have been mine!! They went for much less than they should have.

Went up to Matt's room and hung out with a few makers. It was really super because we started talking about who the best makers that we knew were. We settled on a top three, and I will not say who they were, but it was an awesome discussion.

Matt said it was time to go to dinner, and we did. My dinner companions were Ric Dunkerly, Don Fogg, Barry Gallagher, Rick Eaton, Matt Diskin and Dr. James Batson. I felt like a piece of poo on a chocolate bar. Turns out I had dinner with Rick Eaton about 10 years ago with Devin Thomas at a Benihana in San Jose. Not a lot I can say about dinner, except the company was great, and Joss, the food was not bad. Maybe you eat in the wrong places. Saturday morning I had a Belgian Waffle and sausage patties with a few tequila Bloody Marys at the Silver Legacy coffee shop, and I thought it was all good!

Saturday night will not be discussed publicly, but debauchery occurred and it was all good!!

Sunday, I checked out of the hotel, and made it to the floor before the show "officially" opened, so I just hung out, and finished my knife purchase with Murray Carter.

I spoke with Burt Foster tonight for an hour on his dime, and ordered a fighter with hamon, and stainless steel guard. I like his attitude. Of the people in that room, that I spoke to, must haves are:

#1 with a Bullet-Larry Fuegen(the rest in no particular order)
Don Fogg
Matt Diskin
Nick Wheeler
Burt Foster

As a matter of fact, although I probably annoyed or aggrivated half the people in the room, only one person really put me off, and he is from my hometown. To much show, not enough go, and the work was.........inconsistent.

That's my story, and I am stickin' to it.

Don't know where I'm going next year, but if Vegas was as bad as the initial reports, it's back to Reno.

Best Regards,

Steven Garsson
 
Steven,

Come to think of it.......you are coarse and blunt....and it's one of the things I like about you. It's refreshing to speak with someone who doesn't care about "PC" and calls it like he sees it.

I hope you do make Reno an annual stop, and spend time at my table to boot.
 
Steven, one other thing. My reaction to your list of who doesn't do it for you gave me a little grief at first, because a lot of those guys really do it for me (at least their knives do... :) ). But I'm glad we can all be free to voice how we feel without anyone taking it personally or too seriously. I think one of the best visuals of the show was Murray Carter's table with lots of $100 knives backing up to Don Fogg's table, where I think his business cards are more than that. It's a good example of where the ABS is and where it can go from here. Both guys did well at the show and both make excellent knives for what each is intended to do, but their work can't be more different. Take that all of you who thing the ABS just breeds clones of Fisk and Dean...

BTW, thanks for the work, and it was good to talk again.
 
Guys,

Thanks.

Bailey, like I said, the reports are coming in strong for negative on Vegas, the shows are too close together, so each day, it looks more like Reno. Either way, I will probably score a blade from you within the next year. There has always been something in the way, in Huntington Beach, it was the pre-commitments that I had, cause I wanted the one bowie that Neil Ostroff got on Saturday, BAD! This year, if I had made to the show on Friday, probably would have gotten one, but the engraved folder was too rich for my bank account.

I would have hung out at your table more(man I wanted to, we were just started to get to the good stuff about movement and distance), but I was afraid that I was going to step in the stuff with your wife around. I am sure that she does not offend easily, but you know that I talk like a sailor, and I just can't seem to clean up my language. :eek:

Burt-for me to be interested in a knife from a maker, there is a list of criteria about 2000 words long or more. I run the mental scan in about a minute. After 100's of shows, some highly competitive from the buying and selling perspective, it has become second nature, you snooze, you lose, that is how Joss got the Don Fogg sword. He knew what he wanted, and he made it happen.

My bottom line is that the maker must make a design that appeals to me, do it as well, or better than anyone else(with attention to detail, fit and finish being super high on the list), fit into my price range, and have an approach/personality/personae that works for me, fits into my style. All these criteria must be met before I will remotely CONSIDER buying a knife from a maker.

That is how I can buy a knife from Murray Carter, and not buy one from S.R. Johnson (from the stock removal side) or from Jay Hendrickson (on the forged side).

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
You know, after some reflection, I need to add something to what I said above.

Some knifemakers simply throw a knife together without much thought, and that reflects in their work. However, I know each of the guys on your "doesn't do it for you" list, and I know that each one, as I, put their heart into their work. They know what it is like to sit for hours over their workbench and try to bring to fruition the desires of their heart, and when someone labels your blood and sweat as "undeisrable", it can hurtful. You didn't attack them personally, but this work is personal. It's not like they are just peddling someone else's product. This is their life. They make knives not for their customers, but for themselves. And a man that's willing to make his livlihood by such uncertain means deserves at the very least, courtest and respect.

I am honored that I am on your "A" list of makers, because we all live by the support of our customers, and I would never try and minimize that. However, I am regularly jealous Jason, Dan, Jay and Rik on your "B" list. Not only are they friends, but exceptional craftsmen, and I would be as honored to occupy a place among them as well.

Who knows, the way I'm going, I may at that... ;)
 
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