Acquired Becker BK1: Edge = Yeesh...

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hikeeba

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Greetings all,

With all the talk about Camillus circling the drain, I figured now was as good a time as any to purchase the Becker BK1 Brute I had wanted for a long time, but never moved on. I received my BK1 yesterday. Everything was as I expected except the edge. It looks like it was ground at 6:23 pm on a Friday by an inexperienced member of the 'skeleton crew.' Take a look-see:
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Chisle grind (almost), anyone? This is very atypical of the other Beckers that I own. I'm disappointed with the edge, but not discouraged. I'll touch it up the best I can and use it. I'm sure it will serve me well for a long time. Has anyone else noticed any 'variations' in their recently acquired Becker pieces?
 
Here is an example of a Schrade XT2B which I acquired. For those who aren't familiar with this knife, the handle was installed upside down.


Your knife can be fixed by a competent cutler, if you so choose. It is a historicaly significant artifact if you decide to keep it as is, unused and unaltered.

Codger
 
Holy crap Codger:eek: ,lmao, I'm sorry, I cant stop laughing, you know that knife will probably be worth more then the correct ones........one day. thats just unbelievable! Boy, you see something different everyday. lol:D
 
Oh, it was worse than that...this knife wasn't scooped from a trash bin after the closing, it actually was shipped to a dealer as a finished, inspected knife before July of 2004! I have several examples of goofs and oops knives in my Schrade collection, including a couple shipped without the final grind...none!

Codger
 
Hikeeba, I have several Beckers including the Brute. Not all the grinds have been very accurate. I have had very good success using a mill file to fix the gross problems before going to stones. The steel on these is much softer than a file and it will cut very readily. That is one messed up grind line. I am betting it was an attack of some manager trying to do a skilled laborer's job.
 
Codger_64 said:
Here is an example of a Schrade XT2B which I acquired. For those who aren't familiar with this knife, the handle was installed upside down.


Your knife can be fixed by a competent cutler, if you so choose. It is a historicaly significant artifact if you decide to keep it as is, unused and unaltered.

Codger
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ROTFLMAO:thumbup:
 
there should be a forum for this ..this is great!:D LOL:D
me and my son are laughing like hyhenas. U made my day, all the best to you and yours sir:thumbup: :thumbup:
 
bigbcustom said:
... attack of some manager ...
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We in the Schrade forum have worked several years to come up with descriptive terms for the vavious knives we have found. "Lunchbox Knife" is easily understood. "Off the Wall Knife" refers to knives removed from the extensive factory collection displayed on the walls of the front office. "End of Days Knife" we use to describe certain mismatched knives made during the shutdown process leading up to the liquidation. The one I showed above would be a "Friday or Monday knife". "Attack of the Manager knife" might just fit in this case, dunno though. It takes a period of popular usage and consensus for it to stick.;)

Codger
 
I have my new BK 1 which I ahve yet to use it, will inspect it's edge too! Post some pics up here after my exams!
 
I think you should send that Brute back to wherever it came from, and request a replacement that has been examined prior to shipment. You're going to have to remove a lot of material to get that edge even and at a decent angle, and the Brute is already so thick behind the edge that you don't want to get any higher into the grind than you have to, as the edge will take a lot of work, and the transition into the primary grind will be very steep.
 
I am happy that mine didn't come like that. Mine has a very good and strong edge on it and it was sharpened right. At least in my opinion. I only bought mine two or three months ago so it isn't that old.

Interested in seeing what you do with it.

Funny stuff codger.

KR
 
Hi Owen. I'm not going to hassle the vendor about the edge on my BK1. It isn't his fault. Although it might explain the deal I got... I doubt that.

Anyhoo, I'm not worried about it. I just thought I'd point it out, as I haven't had any edge grind faults on my other Beckers. My trusty mill bastard files will have it shaped up with a little elbow grease. I reprofiled the edge on my TacTool, just to make it a little more useful. If I remember correctly, working the TacTool didn't take too long. The BK1 is a larger knife with a little recurve to the blade, so it may take me a little longer. My next opportunity for 'knife fun in the outdoors' isn't until mid-September, so I have plenty of time.
 
hikeeba said:
. Has anyone else noticed any 'variations' in their recently acquired Becker pieces?
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I received a Necker yesterday that is in similar shape. Like you I am not going to hassle with sending it back but I am very disappointed. My Brute, Crewman, and BK7 were all flawless. This was obviously ground by somebody who just didn't give a crap. No wonder they are in trouble.
 
Cutlers know how to cutler, managers know how to manage, secretaries know how do do many things, but making a quality knife is not, IMHO, one of them. I think you have it backwards. They are in trouble and therefore.....

Codger
 
Codger_64 said:
Cutlers know how to cutler, managers know how to manage, secretaries know how do do many things, but making a quality knife is not, IMHO, one of them. I think you have it backwards. They are in trouble and therefore.....

Codger
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You know, I thought of that, but a blind monkey could do a better job than this. I think this was some po'd person trying to send a message.

I worked on it for a couple of hours and finally got an acceptable, if not pretty edge. And I do like the knife very much. From now on when buying online I'll insist that the seller inspect it before shipping. Probably a good idea to do that anyway.
 
Codger_64 said:
Cutlers know how to cutler, managers know how to manage, secretaries know how do do many things, but making a quality knife is not, IMHO, one of them. I think you have it backwards. They are in trouble and therefore.....
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I agree with Codger's assessment there. However, I highly doubt my BK1 was manufactured within the last few months. Or was it? Hmm....
 
Got my BK1 about 2 weeks ago, the edge was symetrical for the entire length and pristine. I've seen much worse on more expensive blades.

No complaints, at all.

But, if we do start seeing a pattern of questionable quality, we need to make everyone aware.
 
Well what do you expect, you get what you pay for, you aint gonna get no Terzuola for that price, you are speculating and its only worth most likely less than you paid, good for a throw away yes?
 
norad45 said:
This was obviously ground by somebody who just didn't give a crap. No wonder they are in trouble.
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The Becker Necker BK11 that I've purchased last month in a local store
has a perfect fit and finish. And for 30 Euro / 38 USD (lowest online price
is about 50 Euro / 65 USD in Germany) it was a real bargain.

As it was the last BK11 they had on stock it's most likely manufactured
before the strike at Camillus Cutlery.

Like Codger already pointed out, Camillus Cutlery might try to maintain
production with some inadequate qualified persons. Of course it could
also be possible that some people really don't care anymore because they
consider the situation at Camillus Cutlery and their own personal situation
as hopeless.
 
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