Adventure Sworn knives vs Morakniv

I have an AS knife. Guy made it to my specs and it's really nice. Compared to a Mora? I think the handle is a lot better on the AS knife mostly. Blade wise I'd say mine and the Mora are very similar far as sharpness and edge retention. I actually had him make mine a bit thinner like a mora so it would slice pretty well too.
 
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afishhunter said:
Is that why the "superior steels" chip when they hit a knot in the wood?
I've seen lots of posts here on BF about the "super steels" chipping, and/or breaking while batonning.
I've never had a 10xx carbon steel or 440A/425HC class blade chip or break.
They may not hold an edge as long as a "modern" steel, but they hold it long enough to skin and butcher a couple deer, and generally only need stropped after or at worse, a couple swipes on a ceramic rod, to be shaving sharp again.
With standard care, the "old fashioned" steels will still last generations, and still be just as useable by the later generations as for the original buyer.

I will not deny there are those who can afford and appriciate a high end production or custom made knife. There is nothibg wrong with that, either.
Just like there is nothing wrong with appriciating time proven materials and designs.

FWIW, the poster above who stated the Adventure Sworn knives are a kit knife, may not be far off the mark. Their website only shows the installation of the handle. No crafting of the blade itself.
To me, that says they do not make the blades. For all I know, they could be fitting handles to cheap $19.95 Pakistani blades.
I am not saying that they are, but it is a possibility.
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We must be on completely different sides of the forum because I've read and witnessed the exact opposite when dealing with super steels and simpler carbon steels.
I've never had a 3v knife fail or chip even after beating them through seasoned oak, but I have had 1075, 1095 and AUS 8 fail miserably even while under less strenuous work.

As far as Adventure Sworn goes, it seems that their knives are cut and heat treated somewhere else, then they dial them in by doing all of the surface grinding, edge bevels, handle scales and leatherwork in house. They may sub out a few steps, but they're still knife makers.

Either way we look at it, they both make amazing knives, but I'll trust my CPM-3v for my needs.
 
Standard78 said:
As far as Adventure Sworn goes, it seems that their knives are cut and heat treated somewhere else, then they dial them in by doing all of the surface grinding, edge bevels, handle scales and leatherwork in house. They may sub out a few steps, but they're still knife makers.
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Sub out a few steps = everything except making handles.
 
Rat Finkenstein said:
well there was a picture of someone holding a blade on or near a crappy harbor freight sander. That was impressive
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You must have one hell of a chip on your shoulder with Adventure Sworn.
Some people don't need high end equipment to produce a great product.
I'm done with your ignorance.
 
Standard78 said:
You must have one hell of a chip on your shoulder with Adventure Sworn.
Some people don't need high end equipment to produce a great product.
I'm done with your ignorance.
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No chip, I only heard about them through this thread. Just stating the obvious from viewing their website.
Not a big fan of companies that deceive their customers. They could well be decent knives, but I bet they wouldn't sell many if they didn't pretend to make the knives, certainly not at those prices.
 
I don't own any AS knives, but I have handled and used some. They are worth the price. The materials and craftsmanship are top notch.

I do have knives made with 3V. I have never had one chip or do anything other than stay extremely sharp and cut really well. I prefer O1 or A2, but 3V is a good steel.

My last two cents: I was taught at an early age how to baton wood. It was always with small diameter pieces, to break them up for kindling. I have never had a knife break. Some people don't use common sense, and they will break a knife doing something stupid.

Many of the same people that say to match the tool to the job, or complain about people using a knife and not an axe, will make feather sticks or carve with an axe or hatchet. Go figure.
 
Rat Finkenstein said:
No chip, I only heard about them through this thread. Just stating the obvious from viewing their website.
Not a big fan of companies that deceive their customers. They could well be decent knives, but I bet they wouldn't sell many if they didn't pretend to make the knives, certainly not at those prices.
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They do not do any of the things you say. For someone who just "found out" about them you sure do have a nasty opinion of them, but hay now we have an opinion of you.
 
monkeynono said:
They do not do any of the things you say.
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If they grind knives, why not show it? They obviously put a lot of effort into their website. Overlooking the part where the blade is made is a bit of an oversight. I do believe they can make a nice handle.
 
I have experienced great customer service with AS, if anyone has a question about materials used or work done in shop, contact them. If I want to know how a given company does business, I do a little research and contact them.
 
This is the dumbest thing I've read in a while. You are talking about apples and oranges, they really can't be put in the same class together. Yes, they can both cut stuff. Besides that, you are talking about a $300 custom knife that's hand fit against a $20 production knife. That's like saying your Ford Focus could probably hang if it raced in the Indy 500.

I have both, I like both, sometimes I bring both at the same time while out on a trip. For the guys making assumptions on how AS builds their knives or what the have others do, you should probably get the facts before giving bad information on a public and open forum. AS makes great knives, perfect fit and finish. They are pricey, but no more then other makers of the same caliber. Some guys like a used Chevy cause it's priced well and still runs, others want to step up to a new Toyota cause they last forever and just keep on running. It's all preference. I will take a tool steel, hand crafted knife any day of the week over a partial tang, machine made knife with a crappy plastic sheath.
 
Rat Finkenstein said:
If they grind knives, why not show it? They obviously put a lot of effort into their website. Overlooking the part where the blade is made is a bit of an oversight. I do believe they can make a nice handle.
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Dude you're taking pics from their website as the one and only gospel truth about every aspect of their knives. Lol. They probably just uploaded a couple pics when the built the site.
 
dbltap45acp said:
This is the dumbest thing I've read in a while. You are talking about apples and oranges, they really can't be put in the same class together. Yes, they can both cut stuff. Besides that, you are talking about a $300 custom knife that's hand fit against a $20 production knife. That's like saying your Ford Focus could probably hang if it raced in the Indy 500.

I have both, I like both, sometimes I bring both at the same time while out on a trip. For the guys making assumptions on how AS builds their knives or what the have others do, you should probably get the facts before giving bad information on a public and open forum. AS makes great knives, perfect fit and finish. They are pricey, but no more then other makers of the same caliber. Some guys like a used Chevy cause it's priced well and still runs, others want to step up to a new Toyota cause they last forever and just keep on running. It's all preference. I will take a tool steel, hand crafted knife any day of the week over a partial tang, machine made knife with a crappy plastic sheath.
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I know but it's fun to do :)
 
A puukko traditionally has a straight back. A MORA does not, but that's a detail. The puukko has a higher bevel than a MORA. that's a matter of preference (but don't tell the Finns.) The Puukko almost always has a full-length tang, and most MORAs do not. That's not a detail or a matter of preference. It has real world consequences.

Why would a Norwegian carry a Finnish knife? They make perfectly good knives in Norway. There is a picture of the knife he took to the Pole. https://3a09223b3cd53870eeaa-7f75e5...rld_13_1_temp-1315202750-4e6466be-620x348.jpg It has the classic Norwegian stud on the pommel over which the retaining strap snaps. The bevel is closer to the puukko.

You night find this interesting:
While the days waiting for good weather dragged on with little for the men to do, Rønne decided to make a gift for his friend of many years. Taking the bayonet from a rifle, he fashioned a beautiful knife with a sheath and carrying strap and proudly presented it to Amundsen during a cozy hour in their wardroom at Kings Bay. Amundsen was most appreciative and mentioned that it may come in handy on his flight. At the latter's suggestion, Rønne placed the knife in Amundsen's flight bag and thought no more about it. Later, when it became necessary to reduce the weight load in the two planes, Rønne noticed that Amundsen had put the knife among the things that were to be left behind. Without his knowing it, Rønne put the knife back in the bottom of Amundsen’s flight bag, hoping it would not be discovered until after they had taken off. This knife fortuitously proved to be the one implement that saved the lives of the men from certain death in the Arctic sea.
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If your life depended on batoning and all you had was a knife, I believe that you would carefully baton and not be killed by ego, pride, and prejudice. In fact, as you did it you might regret not having practiced. With practice, you might supplement the knife with wedges.

If you always have the "right tool," you are not in the wilderness. It is defined in part by limited access to man-made tools. Improvising is a valuable survival trait.

Some of the most experienced woodsman in the world teach batoning - even with the typical MORA, which would really give me pause. One of them also showed me how easy it would be to break a knife doing it. To me, that argues learning how to do it when you must.

Some "superior" steels are superior only in abrasion-resistance and/or corrosion-resistance, not in toughness. 1095 was and is used for plows, harrows, and plow blades - you know, rocks, roots, ice and all that. Some pretty well-respected makers still use wood for handles.

The only Adventure Sworn I have has a wood handle more comfortable than any MORA I have even held (hundreds). Not to deny that a MORA is a great value in a cutting tool.

All tools have limits. I have seen broken axe heads - good brands, broken sledge hammer heads, and broken Engineer's Bars. Some of the abuse of knives I see (batoning with a length of 6" log as the baton !) documents this reality, but there is also plain bad luck.
 
kniferbro said:
Dude you're taking pics from their website as the one and only gospel truth about every aspect of their knives. Lol. They probably just uploaded a couple pics when the built the site.
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they wouldn't be the first knife company to only apply handles to outsourced blades. Companies that make knives tend to show them making knives, knife handle makers tend to show them making handles.
 
Standard78 said:
Apparently they do make knives from the ground up. I found a video that shows various stages of different knives at Adventure Sworn.

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did you watch the video? less than one minute of crude cutting at a piece of steel with an angle grinder and 12 minutes of making a handle on a completed blade blank. The video proves my point.
 
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Rat Finkenstein said:
did you watch the video? less than one minute of crude cutting at a piece of steel with an angle grinder and 12 minutes of making a handle on a completed blade blank. The video proves my point.
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No I posted the damn video without looking at it. Come on now.
Believe whatever you want bubba. The evidence is right in front of you, but you choose to be obtuse.
 
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