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Cookies Week 34 - Kizer Sheepdog

Advice needed

Discussion in 'Axe, Tomahawk, & Hatchet Forum' started by Curt Hal, Jun 2, 2019.

  1. Jun 2, 2019 #1
    Curt Hal

    Curt Hal Gold Member Gold Member

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    I just got a Sater Banko 2 3/4 lb head to refurbish. I was trying it out on some of the handles I have. Of all of them it best fit this 28” straight handle that I got from HH. It was one of their standard handles; not hand picked. The axe head slid on there like they were made for each other. With a couple of mallet whacks and a wedge, it’ll be done. The only problem is the grain on the handle is exactly at right angles to what it should be. I have no experience with this kind of grain alignment, but the physics and everything I’ve read say it’s not ideal.

    Would you take a pass on this handle or give it a go?
     
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  2. Jun 2, 2019 #2
    Agent_H

    Agent_H Gold Member Gold Member

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    /that will work just fine
     
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  3. Jun 2, 2019 #3
    Trailsawyer

    Trailsawyer Gold Member Gold Member

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    I would give it a go!

    I think that the 2 3/4 Sater Banko on a 28" straight haft would make a great "fallers axe" for trail work, especially when accompanying a crosscut saw......
     
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  4. Jun 2, 2019 #4
    ithinkverydeeply

    ithinkverydeeply Gold Member Gold Member

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    Let’s see the two of them paired up in a picture!?
     
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  5. Jun 2, 2019 #5
    Yankee Josh

    Yankee Josh Gold Member Gold Member

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    In my experience so far grain orientation such as your handle has performed the same as perfectly orientated ones. I've found them to be a little more flexible. I don't think that's advantageous because it'll absorb energy that should be expended in the cut. I of course prefer the inline orientation but it doesn't really matter as far as I can tell.
    Hang it and share!
     
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  6. Jun 2, 2019 #6
    A17

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    Provided there's no runout I haven't had either the "good" or "bad" grain orientation do to terribly better or worse than each other. I say go for it!
     
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  7. Jun 2, 2019 #7
    Curt Hal

    Curt Hal Gold Member Gold Member

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    All I did was bang it on with a rubber mallet. I’m sure if I bang it on with the baby sledge, it will go on with some nice curl and no gaps. There’s good room for the wedge.
     
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  8. Jun 2, 2019 #8
    Square_peg

    Square_peg Gold Member Gold Member

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    Half of the grain is continuous through the haft. That's probably good enough for a small axe like that.
     
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  9. Jun 3, 2019 #9
    ithinkverydeeply

    ithinkverydeeply Gold Member Gold Member

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    It looks right at home there!
     
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  10. Jun 3, 2019 #10
    jblyttle

    jblyttle Gold Member Gold Member

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    Yeah I'd run with it. Nothing to lose but some time if it ever fails.
     
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  11. Jun 3, 2019 #11
    Old Biker

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    I guess I'm in the minority here. But I wouldn't buy that handle, and I certainly wouldn't put it on any tool I expected to do any work with.

    O.B.
     
  12. Jun 3, 2019 #12
    A17

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    He already bought it I believe.
     
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