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Dixieblade57

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I have got a couple of Crown Stag Bowies to build and need some advice about the handles. This is the look I am trying to achive but I have been told these are those (foe or fake) antlers.http://cgi.ebay.com.my/HUGE-CUSTOM-...ZViewItemQQitemZ270318950397#ebayphotohosting

Someone tried to convince me that the handles on these kinves are Elk because of there large size.Such as this one on ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Amazing-Huge-EL...72:1205|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318|301:0|293:1%

However an Elk antler after the first year or so begins to put on a fork at the base. If they are Elk it's a young Elk.

I am convinced they are using large deer crowns such as this one on ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...Name=VIP:Watchlink:middle:us#ebayphotohosting


I have purchased of Ebay but that can be a crap shoot. I have bought some good ones but, one guy pictured some antlers however they were not the ones he sold me. His add didn't mention anything about the picture was only a representation of what he was selling. So I complained and gave him bad feedback. He said his add said he was selling 25lbs of antlers. I will give him credit there is more than one way to get around the truth! Sorry about all the pics from Ebay but I knew I could find the pics I needed to get my point accross!!!!!!!!!!

Can anyone shed light as too what they are using for a Crown Stag Bowie knife as the handle.

Also I need a recomendation on a real good place to purchase these Crown antlers.
 
Thanks for the link Karl.

JasonSCarter said:
I use Elk or Whitetail becuase that's what I have available. The bowie's antler was scrubbed and washed in hot soapy water to make it that light, then carved, the ivory (Crown end) was burned for the color. If you buy stag crowns accept nothin less than 4-5" base circumferences anything else is TINY. To buy quality check out


Jason
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I have got to ask a couple of questions here. You say, " the ivory (Crown end) was burned for the color". Can you explain exactly what you are talking about, by the phrase burned?
Also you say,"If you buy stag crowns accept nothin less than 4-5" base circumferences anything else is TINY" Is that a typo or what did you mean?
I ass-u-me that you meant length! A 4-5" base is a big around as roll of toilet paper. That a real awsome rack!!!!!!
 
The first one is definitely not Elk. I've been handling Elk horn since I started hunting in my childhood. That is most likely a lowland blacktail or a whitetail that didn't have much competition from other bucks. I've noticed over the years when the buck population is high in an area, they have to compete more for does and tend to get nobbier crown sections, perhaps because they add a little defense against other horns when fighting.

For the record, stag is a British term for buck. Sambar stags have racks that are similar to Elk and Roaring Red deer, which are on the British Isles. Sambar often comes from India, which as we all know was a British colony until 1947, thus the name stuck. I usually correct people when they call Elk or North American deer species "stags." Hey...Everyone has their pet peeves.

I'm studying Urdu and Hindi at the university, so here's some Indian names for deer, in case you were wondering. There are several words for deer in Hindi and Urdu, most of which are generally regional. The actual name "sambar" might come from a Bengali dialect, or perhaps one of the Dravidian languages in Southern India.

Examples are:
Jhaankh (I think this is actually the Sambar species)
aahu
saarang
zabi
ghazal (also a love poem) Sounds more like rhazal, the rh is said from the back of your throat.
Kaalihar (a buck),
mirg
mrigi (a doe)
haran
chiital (a buck, or stag)


Anyway, there's your India lesson for the day.

Brook

BTW: I firmly believe that the North American Elk is one of the most majestic animals on earth.....
 
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You are not going to find many elk crown sections that are small enough to be a knife handle. "Spikes" (first year with antler and usually not forks, but not 100%) are about the only ones you will find that are hand sized.

Mike
 
Thanks guys for all the input! It echoed alot of what I already had in my own mind, but I figure it helps to air out the attic now and then and let other opinions in.
I have discoverd that there is phoe/fake that is hard by intial look to tell the difference. I am not for sure what it is made of but, thump it with your finger and it has a different sound than a real antler.
I also realize when most folks say stag they don't really have a clue what what exactly that means. It's just a term bantered around and usually not reminiscent of a true stag!
 
I couldn't help myself... and couldn't remember the spelling, either...

faux

faux \faux\ (f[add]ks), n.; pl. {fauces} (f[add]"s[=e]z). [L.]
See {Fauces}.

-- From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48

faux
adj : not genuine or real; being an imitation of the genuine
article; "it isn't fake anything; it's real synthetic
fur"; "faux pearls"; "false teeth"; "decorated with
imitation palm leaves"; "a purse of simulated alligator
hide" [syn: {fake}, {false}, {imitation}, {simulated}]

Pronounced "foe" as in faux pas (pronounced "pah")... alternatively prounounced "fox paw"... :)

Mike
 
Mike I knew that didn't look right, so I guess that makes that a faux/phoe, or something like that! :jerkit: :D:D:D
So I stand corrected faux!
 
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This coloring on this part of the antler (called the "Ivory") looks to me to be burned, by passing a torch from right to left quickly over it several times untill the desired color is achieved. then the track was carved in it exposing the white. Yes I ment circumferance this one I shot this past season has 5 1/2" circumferance bases. and yes there a handfull with lots of popcorn (those lil bumps) :D
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Jason
 
Cool, OK I get it know. I often do similar but use a dremmel to do the carving and then stain and come back with the dremmel to the carved area. That gives it more of a antiqued look but, I like the burned concept. I may have to try something like that on the next one.:thumbup:
 
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