advice on buying a 42 (am i beating a dead dog?)

PeaceFrog

PeaceFrog

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hmm. If i buy online i intend to buy from 1SKS or knifezilla. Sounds good. It's a good deal cheaper than the local store in the mall, they're charging the full $160. That's a no-brainer, right?

However, my parents don't know of my new obsession and I know my mom would flip in a bad way. Therefore I may end up buying from the mall just to avoid the awkward situation I can picture: "Hey Andrew, what's this package you got? And why does the return address say it's a knife store?"
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Yeowch. Hard explaining.

I could have them mail it to a friend but that introduces complications too. Any people ever have a similar problem and know an easy fix? Because I'm thinking I may just end up driving to the mall and shelling out the extra cash. Which would suck. Oh well. Also, do you have to buy the cocoon sheath seperately or does it come standard with the knife? Thanks!

PeaceFrog
 
Why not just tell your mom? She'll have to find out one day. Right? Better yet, tell your dad. Dad's are usually more understanding about knives.

BTW, what part of Virginia do ye hail from?
 
Buy two knives. One cheap "drop knife" that you can use for misdirection and the 42 that only you know about.
That or tell your mom that it is a gift for your dad, and that if you show it to her it will ruin the surprise.
 
>>However, my parents don't know of my new obsession and I know my mom would flip in a bad way.

Are you 18 or older? If not, then you will need your parents permission to purchase a knife. Esp. a knife that some people consider to be illegal. If a knife dealer were to knowingly sell an illegal item to a minor, they could get charged with a felony contributing charge. Every policeman that I ever talked to, said that they are not going to bother anyone. But if someone registers a complaint with them, then they will have no choice but to take action on the complaint.

I am usually pretty good at talking a parent into letting their kids have some sort of knife. I usually advise age 12 or older, but I have seen parents buy knives for kids a lot younger than that. I know 12 year old kids that are more mature and more responsible than a lot of the 20 year old's out there. I think all them years of watching MTV makes them stupid. It looks to me like they lose brain points everytime they expose themselves to that garbage. Thanks, JohnR7
 
Yeah, yeah, that whole "being honest" bit. My mom is just rather big on anti violence. She'd be a lot easier on me if I told her than if she, oh say randomly found a bali laying around or some such. I still want to wait to tell her until I'm out of the house though - that way they can't confiscate my equipment. O_o

I turn 18 in a few months. I bought a china cheapie from the same local knife store a month or two ago and they gave me no hassle at all, didn't even ask about my age. I guess as long as you look confident it doesn't matter. Being 6'1" helps too.
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I'm from the northern part of VA, the good part. LOL. Fairfax county actually, which I noticed is one thing we have in common. Hmm.

Mmm....punk rock is good....

PeaceFrog
 
I have experience with this kind of stuff
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Make sure that if you have it shipped to your friends house that he and his parents are ok with it (his parents don't have to know everything) but it's bad if his parents catch him with it and take it from him when you payed for it.

I payed over $170 for a 42 and over $180 for a second (it got shipped to Sweden and now I have a 45 2nd....errr....I mean "I have a Buck Crosslock that I won in a drawing"

You could buy a fire proof safe to "keep bank stuff and money in" and make sure that you hold onto the keys/combo.

Lastly, do your parents know about the cheapie?? If they don't know then just tell them that you bought it used from a friend on-line (but in-fact you bought a 42 but you show them the cheapie). Just make sure that they "see" you pull the cheapie out of the box.
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Your best bet is to buy the bm42 from the mall (hehe, they actually sell high quality stuff in the malls of VA??). It's only $35 more than online, and it's much better than trying to make some excuse to your mom when she asks why you're buying knives from 1sks.

Once you have your bm42, make sure it's out of sight and not easily findable (i.e. not between the cushions of the couch in the living room). Then, over a period of a month, try to break the news to your mom (like asking her what she thinks about balis and that your interest in them is purely for artistic reasons). Tell her interesting stories like the bali originated in the Philipines and is not just seen as a weapon. Try to get your mom to believe you when you promise you will be responsible with it and not take to school or other public places, that it will strictly be left in the house at all times. Hopefully, she will be more understanding at that point and will allow you to purchase one (which you already have).

IMO, it's best to try to convince your mom first before you buy it.

-Howdy
 
peace fog,
i know exactly how you feel.i am also only 17 years old,and my mom is VERY anti-anything remotely violent.But she is slowly overcoming that.she seems to realize that im gonna keep buying knives,(at the rate im buying them,it'll be a while before i get another) and there isnt anything she can do to stop it.my dad doesnt really care,he just wants to be sure im not getting ripped off in the process.

if you want a balisong-then go to a flea market,get yerself a ten dollar cheapy (i got some no name one,and it was SHARP)play with it for a while,show yer folks how responsible you are with them,and they'll slowly see where yer coming from...
i was worried about what they thought when i got one of those flea market-twenty dollar stilletos (which has held up remarkably well for the price...

good luck!
 
my parents dont really care. it sometimes takes a little persuading, but thats about it. They told me that they'd make me stop a while when I had to get stitches, but its never come up.

And if you tell her about it AFTER you get it, then wouldnt you think she'd be mad about you hiding it from her? Just tell her about it, tell her about how useful bali's are, and if she really doesnt trust you then break her up by whining about her not trusting you and all.
 
>> My mom is just rather big on anti violence.

A knife is a netural item. It can be used for good or it can be used for evil purpose and intent. About a year ago, I had a sore on my shoulder about the size of a coin, that would not go away. I went to the doctor to have it checked out and he took out a knife and sliced it off before he would let me leave the office. He said it was cancer, but it's gone forever now, and I never have to worry about it again. Because of a man who knew how to use a knife, to bring about healing.

For a person to say a knife is a instrament of violence, shows that they do not know the proper use of fine cutting instraments. People who need knives for a living, are having real problems about now. All the laws and all the restrictions make it difficult for them to carry the tools they need to do the job properly.

You take knives away from people, and you will have nothing. No clothing to wear, no food to eat, no house to live in. If your 17 years old, your plenty old enough to start to learn the proper use of simple tools. By now, you should be learning how to master more powerful and complex cutting tools.

As for me, I love to build and create. I know there are people out there, who want to tear down and destroy. That is their choice. Or maybe that is all they ever learned, no one took the time to teach them otherwise. Thanks, JohnR7 www.BalisongKnife.com
 
Listen to you guys encouraging him to lie to his parents.......... shame on you!

Honestly, I can almost guarantee your parents would rather you be honest with them, even about something they don't necessarily agree with.

Depending on how old you are, they've probably been expecting this sort of thing sooner or later anyway.

I always told my parents up front "Hey, I know you don't like ________(insert evil inanimate object here) but I want one. Now, I could have had it sent to Johnnie's house, but I'd rather be honest with you guys".

Then explain the non-violent aspects and the benefits of ownership.

In the long run, you'll enjoy a much better relationship with them.

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Howdy NoVA kids.
I hail from Fairfax Co, myself. TJHSST '95 in the house.
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I certainly hope you're not thinking of buying anything from Cheasapeake Knife and Tool-- those overpriced bastards need to go out of business hella quick.
Frankly, you're almost 18. It's your money (I'm presuming). You can do what you want with it. If she asks what the package is from then tell her. It's not her decision. Period. End.
You don't need to ask her if you made the money yourself.

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Hey Chizpuf...I think that's easier said then done. Even if he is almost 18, He still lives under their roof. If his parents don't approve , then he has to respect that.If I were you peacefrog, I would go with Clay's advice.
 
I always go to chesepeake just to try stuff out and see them up close. the only things I buy from there are sometimes sheaths
 
You are almost 18 right? Thats the age when you can legally get a tattoo. Tell your mom that you were thinking about taking the money you saved and buy either a BM42 or a Tattoo. Tell her you are leaning towards the BM42 because you're not sure if you want a tattoo. This way if she says no to the knife, you can say "Well, I guess I'll get a tattoo then." and if not you get your knife. If she says yes to the tattoo, well, then I guess you're stuck.
 
That tattoo idea has merit.
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I actually wouldn't mind getting a tattoo though, I even have a few sketches I drew up...Mostly tribal and celtic-based designs. But the more I think about it, I think Clay's right - his way would be the best for the long term parental relation upkeep. After all, I'll need them to pay for college!

One down side of getting a 42 will be that it is much sharper and more dangerous than my current hunk of junk. I can ricochet the *blade* off of my hand at close to 3/4 strength/speed without breaking skin...this is one dull@$$ knife! makes catching goofed up aerials much less painful though...
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PeaceFrog

Maybe I'll just put it on my Xmas list, then if they want to talk about it they can approach me. If they don't come say "Aarg! Knives are implements of death! We will punish you for wanting one!" then I'll go buy myself one.(JR7 - I agree completely with your very good previous message about the neutrality of objects. My mom did confiscate a few of my knives in a paranoid frenzy after the Columbine shooting though.)

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All these series of designed lies! ?????

I thought I hung around a better class of people.
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Tell the truth!!Right or wrong, your parents will respect you alot more for that! Lie and you honesty could always become a doubtful issue. And if you are a minor and thinking of lieing, that is a habit that will be your downfall as an adult. Your word is your constitution.

How do you want to be represented?

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[This message has been edited by Sabo (edited 11-17-2000).]
 
you know what we need? A page that has a listing of all the places online that have Benchmade 42's in stock, that would be updated weekly or bi-weekly
 
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