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UK_CATS_FAN

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I’m looking for some guidance from more experienced member and really to see if I’m being unreasonable. Been a member for a while and decided to finally do some trading and selling of blades I no longer use so I’m kind of green on etiquette within forum trading. I saw from many other posts that with low or no feedback you ship first and I have no problem with that to get established.

Five weeks ago today, 16 Feb, I made my first trade deal with a forum member with high feedback, not 100%, but near and the low feedback was a while ago. We initially started off trading one high end (for me anyway, $400ish) with him adding $50 to firm up the deal, but then ended up in a two blade for two blade straight up swap. Nothing was mentioned about me shipping first, but it was suggested I ship FedEx due to the PO being closed on the following day, Monday 17 Feb, which I agreed to under the assumption he did the same. I shipped and promptly emailed tracking info to the individual.

After a couple emails the other guy said he got tied up and was not able to ship due to work. No big deal, I figured it was fair for him to receive first based on my zero feedback. My item arrived to him in good condition on Thursday and finally he confirmed it on Friday. I asked about shipping and was told he Shipped FedEx, but lost the receipt with tracking info, and the items came back undeliverable with a damaged box but the blades were fine as they were both in a small box which was not damaged inside the shipping FedEx box.

Again not too aggravated yet, and then the following week I got USPS tracking info. His part of the trade showed up at the PO and I picked it up. The USPS box was in perfect condition, but immediately it felt very light. I opened it in the parking lot and you guessed it only ONE knife in the box. Of course, I emailed and he was shocked and said he never checked the small box and just placed it in a USPS pri mailer and shipped. At first he tried to say something about USPS and I noted on the receipt the total weight of the package was 8oz and according to both manufactures web site his blades should have weighed at least 9.4oz without packing material. Note I did not notice this until after I picked up at the PO and looked at the picture of the USPS receipt he emailed.

After all that he offers to make it right with $ after his FedEx claim and I say ok. In the meantime I get antsy and he offers several trades, but nothing comparable to the initial trade so I decline. So now it has been five weeks and I’m ready to close this deal. I asked to see how much cash he thought was fair and he stated $375 and that he sees the blade which was lost(or if it shipped at all) for that all the time on BF for that price. I did a search and only found one at that price that was NIB and not a user and our trade was for a NIB item. One of my items cost over $400 to replace new and has a wait and the other isn’t made anymore and sells on BF upwards of $425-$475. I’m not complaining about that I accepted the trade knowing this as he had what I wanted and I had what he wanted. So now I just say send me back one of the traded items, and I even let him choose, and he is stalling saying he really wants to keep both.

So my question is, am I an ahole for demanding cash, or one or both of my items back. At this point I would ship the one thing he sent to me back to him and get both my items back and just take a loss on shipping cost and chalk it up the life lessons. This is not a bashing post, as I left out any names and didn’t even list the items just want opinions. Am I being unreasonable? How should he make it right? Thanks and I hope it wasn’t too long and whiny.
 
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UK,


You are on the righteous side of this, if you realized the package was light, so should he. What blade is he saying is only $375?

PAW
 
pwerfel,
Im trying to leave this as vague as possible to give him a chance without damaging his cred. It trades on here a lot and I believe the version he offered would be about $475 with the tiger stripe blade option. hint
 
UK_CATS_FAN said:
pwerfel,
Im trying to leave this as vague as possible to give him a chance without damaging his cred. It trades on here a lot and I believe the version he offered would be about $475 with the tiger stripe blade option. hint
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WHAT???

CRK are now making their Sebenza with tiger stripes???

Joking aside, this is a sad story UCF, and one that surely doesn't make me warmer to the idea of trading on here or on any forum whatsoever. It would seem that for some persons, the honesty and/or probity requested in a deal is equally proportional to the buyers credentials.
 
Simple solution, ship him his knife back, and get both of yours back. That is the only fair way to do it, and you don't have to guess about prices.

I would be firm on this, and make sure he ships first, no questions asked. If not, you can always bring him here.

Good luck
 
egally08 said:
Simple solution, ship him his knife back, and get both of yours back. That is the only fair way to do it, and you don't have to guess about prices.

I would be firm on this, and make sure he ships first, no questions asked. If not, you can always bring him here.

Good luck
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This would be my suggestion. undo the trade and walk away on friendly terms.
 
+1 on just undoing the trade. If he still really wants to keep both items then it's up to himn to convince you to do it. Trade isn't complete until both parties are satisfied.
 
If i were you I would ask him to ship my knives back first since you are on the loosing end, IMO he owes you that, then when you get your knives back I would ship him his knife back. NO way would I send him his end of the trade back first though thats just me, He might of scammed you, he might not of but either way he should return your items first , then once you receive yours and they are in the same condition as you shipped them , then I would ship him his knife back. Say he did scam you out of one knife and then you ship him back his 2 knives , what's to say you would ever see your 2 knives again once he gets his knife back.
 
Ditto on the undo the trade solution. When one of the parties doesn't follow the agreed plan of action and then wants to change the deal it isn't likely going to worked out to your satisfaction any other way than eating the shipping cost and getting your knives back. You showed good faith in shipping first, now it's his turn to ship before you do.
 
Definitely undo the trade and please keep us informed.
It sounds like this guy is jerking you around.
I would be freakin' out if i were in your shoes.
 
Here is an update. I suggested that he send the traded items back and once received I would send his item back. He has adamantly denied my request. He told me he already "used" what I sent, he has been looking for it for a long time, wanted to keep it and it was not fair because he got screwed by FedEx. I don't know exactly what condition it is in, I have not used the item he sent and would not until the trade is complete. Edit: I did place the item he sent up for trade/sale in the exchange, but I still have it. I politely said that is between him and FedEx not me and a trade is not final until both parties are satisfied. His offer now is to send one of the two items back plus $50. I think we are getting into the principal now. Thoughts?
 
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Only accept it if you're happy with that deal. If you're not satisfied don't take it or you may well regret the whole thing later.

Edited to Add: I would be very, very wary at this point. It's not at all unreasonable to want to undo the trade at this point and any adamant refusal from him would, personally, set my teeth on edge.
 
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As stated above, until both of you are satisfied, the trade was never complete. The knives he has still belong to you, and using them at all is unacceptable, as is his refusal to reverse the trade. I think its time to call the guy out to protect other members from getting screwed over.
Maybe he has a good story and is not at fault? Let him come here and tell his side.
 
If he is that adamant about refusing the send back because he used your knife, I think it would be best to tell him its alright and just get it back anyways. If he still refuses post his name here and let him know about this thread. The fact that he lost his knife has nothing to do with you. That is his problem, and hopefully we can all convince him to make you whole.

I could be wrong, but it seems like this person thought they could take advantage of a person with low feed back. UK Cats_fan, Do not give in to him, it seems like you have done everything right and he is still trying to get over on you. Let him know about this thread and lets hear his side. I would do it soon also, before he uses your knife until there's nothing left to send back lol.
Good luck
 
Whether or not he has been searching for the item for a long time or that FedEx screwed him is not of your concern. You completed your end of the trade and he didn't follow through on his end. If you are not happy with his offer than dont accept it. Unfortunately this doesn't sound like its going to end well for you.
 
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Whether or not he has been searching for the item for a long time or that FedEx screwed him is not of your concern. You completed your end of the trade and he didn't follow through on his end. If you are not happy with his offer than dont accept it. Unfortunately this doesn't sound like its going to end well for you.
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That is correct. I also think it's time this person is outed.
 
I will notify him of this thread and give him a chance to reply. I have every email ever sent and received, including pics of what I was suppose to get in trade.
 
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