AEB-L news.

Cool. That stuff is supposed to be clean, smooth cold rolled stock, so it is for real .196 with no decarb to fret over. It is not on the website yet, just a picture of a sheet on Instagram. Nice and shiny!!!!
txmm10 said:
AKS just got some of the thicker stuff in. I think it's .196"

I am going to get a couple of aluminum plates to try heat treating some.
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jdm61 said:
The costs of developing and MARKETING those newfangled cartridge blades are enough to give you an aneurysm!!!!! The Mach III cost like $750 million to get to market back in 1998 and the number that I heard for the Fusion project was over $1 BILLION!!!!! (Cue Dr. Evil)
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Wow! That's a lot to recoup. I just looked on Amazon and fusion cartridges can be had for $2.50-$3.00 each. Feather and Derby DE blades are both high quality blades that can be purchased for .22 or so each. I have helped switch quite a few folks to wet shaving, and not just for the cost savings. A really good quality razor, like a Merkur, will last a fewnlifetimes and feels a lot better in hand. They are easy to rinse and don't clog nearly as much.

I have some .070 AEB-L neck knives I am going to heat treat next week. I think it makes a great, lightweight EDC type of knife.
 
drysideshooter said:
Wow! That's a lot to recoup. I just looked on Amazon and fusion cartridges can be had for $2.50-$3.00 each. Feather and Derby DE blades are both high quality blades that can be purchased for .22 or so each. I have helped switch quite a few folks to wet shaving, and not just for the cost savings. A really good quality razor, like a Merkur, will last a fewnlifetimes and feels a lot better in hand. They are easy to rinse and don't clog nearly as much.

I have some .070 AEB-L neck knives I am going to heat treat next week. I think it makes a great, lightweight EDC type of knife.
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When you say pro-level HT, Do they develop their own HT Protocols or they just follow the manufacturers HT Protocols on certain hardness?
 
We've been working with Uddeholm Strip/Voestalpine for about five years to get thicker AEB-L. The thicker steel is now on its way to us.

Jeff at Voestalpine worked hard to get us a few sheets to give knifemakers a sneak peek. Those sheets arrived today:

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Over the years we've collected your comments and concerns regarding AEB-L. We requested the following when we ordered the steel:
1) The steel must never be coiled
2) The surface finish must match the existing AEB-L (cold rolled)

The steel that was delivered today has an excellent surface finish. You can see the reflection of the bricks in the steel. There are no pits or mill scale. The steel had a slight bow but looked like it had not been coiled.

I owe Devin Thomas for encouraging me to stock AEB-L years ago. No suppliers were stocking AEB-L. I bought one of Devin's kitchen knives and was amazed by the performance. I immediately became a believer and tried to get everyone to try the steel.

We will have billets and sheets available on the website Dec 21, 2015.

Chuck
 
I am taking an early Christmas present in the form of a 240mm AEB-L gyuto over to my brother tomorrow. With this stuff out now, maybe next year I can give him a yanagi-ba. :D
 
jdm61 said:
I like your dolphin idea because they are cute and cuddly and never gross. :thumbup:
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Actually, dolphins have been documented to be downright mean. But we're way off-topic and over-thinking this... back on track...

Alpha Knife Supply said:
Over the years we've collected your comments and concerns regarding AEB-L. We requested the following when we ordered the steel:
1) The steel must never be coiled
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I'm glad to hear that. My HT guy has told me that although 13C26 is almost the same chemically, he hates working with it because it almost always warps on him... causing a lot more work and headaches on his part. His opinion was, that's because of how it's coiled-up at the mill, possibly when still warm.
 
Alpha Knife Supply said:
We've been working with Uddeholm Strip/Voestalpine for about five years to get thicker AEB-L. The thicker steel is now on its way to us.

Jeff at Voestalpine worked hard to get us a few sheets to give knifemakers a sneak peek. Those sheets arrived today:

AEBL-196-s.jpg


Over the years we've collected your comments and concerns regarding AEB-L. We requested the following when we ordered the steel:
1) The steel must never be coiled
2) The surface finish must match the existing AEB-L (cold rolled)

The steel that was delivered today has an excellent surface finish. You can see the reflection of the bricks in the steel. There are no pits or mill scale. The steel had a slight bow but looked like it had not been coiled.

I owe Devin Thomas for encouraging me to stock AEB-L years ago. No suppliers were stocking AEB-L. I bought one of Devin's kitchen knives and was amazed by the performance. I immediately became a believer and tried to get everyone to try the steel.

We will have billets and sheets available on the website Dec 21, 2015.

Chuck
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That's great, we have been making bird & trout and smaller hunt'n knives from AEB-L for about 4 years..Everyone has been very pleased with it..We also have some parers, a nakiri and santoku in the kitchen..That are just wonderful..All about 61rc..
 
This is great news. I've been using this stuff for 25+ years and we still process about 100# a week making damascus.

Aeb-l is the best all around steel out there. I rate the wear resistance at 6 out of 10, 10v being a 10. Roman Landes scores Aeb-l highest in 6 out of 12 categories compared to 13 different common knife steels, and top 2 or 3 in 10 of 12 categories. No other steel leads in more than 1 category. Categories include things like toughness, edge stability, push cutting, slice cutting etc.

John Verhoeven did a bunch of testing on this steel and found similar results. He also tested it against 52100 and 1086 on catra and found aeb-l to be more wear resistant than either of those steels. The two carbon steels were forged and heat treated by Al Pendray and Howard Clark. Reputable smiths.

This steel just makes me happy. I've used lots of different steels in kitchen knives, a few make me happy, and most are disappointing.

Only Chuck has the power to get them to make it in heavier sizes. I've been trying for twenty years.

I really don't want anyone to buy this stuff, so I can have it all to myself.

Hoss
 
DevinT said:
This is great news. I've been using this stuff for 25+ years and we still process about 100# a week making damascus.

Aeb-l is the best all around steel out there. I rate the wear resistance at 6 out of 10, 10v being a 10. Roman Landes scores Aeb-l highest in 6 out of 12 categories compared to 13 different common knife steels, and top 2 or 3 in 10 of 12 categories. No other steel leads in more than 1 category. Categories include things like toughness, edge stability, push cutting, slice cutting etc.

John Verhoeven did a bunch of testing on this steel and found similar results. He also tested it against 52100 and 1086 on catra and found aeb-l to be more wear resistant than either of those steels. The two carbon steels were forged and heat treated by Al Pendray and Howard Clark. Reputable smiths.

This steel just makes me happy. I've used lots of different steels in kitchen knives, a few make me happy, and most are disappointing.

Only Chuck has the power to get them to make it in heavier sizes. I've been trying for twenty years.

I really don't want anyone to buy this stuff, so I can have it all to myself.

Hoss
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you can be a little less modest, Hoss. You were one of the prime movers if not the top dog when it comes to getting the word out on this stuff. Many of us would not have even bothered looking at the stuff but for your work. :thumbup::D
 
Frank Niro said:
How do you people rate it working in hunting knives and folders with a hardness of about 61 ? I've been using Elmax, M390 and a few others.
Frank
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I HT mine to 62Rc. One hunter I made did 2 moose and is still very sharp and another one has done 1 deer and 1 elk and is still crazy sharp. It's good steel.
 
I'll definitely be getting some!
Devin says it all- it takes a wicked edge, and holds it better than almost any carbon steel.

It still cracks me up that this year's wondersexyamazeballs alloy was patented the year before my Dad was born: 1927
 
Higher because there is obviously more material per square inch of sheet, but I suspect that it will be a proportional increase just like the other varieties of steel that Chuck sells.
Lu1967 said:
Will the price still be reasonable?
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Scraping faces the world over for 88 years!!!! Good sales pitch, no? But to be fair, other favorites like O1, 52100 and W2 are also kind of long in the tooth.
elementfe said:
I'll definitely be getting some!
Devin says it all- it takes a wicked edge, and holds it better than almost any carbon steel.

It still cracks me up that this year's wondersexyamazeballs alloy was patented the year before my Dad was born: 1927
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