AFCK + ziptie = WOW!

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Hearing about the folks putting zipties on spyderholes to make a poor man's wave inspired me to try it with my 806. The zipties I have around are the kind that are reusable, and that works out well because they can be popped off easily and also provides a little extra protrusion to the side in addition to the rectangular box sticking up from the top.

Let me tell you, this is rediculously cool. Pull the knife out of your pocket and it's open, solidly and consistently.

If you have a knife with a thumb hole and have not tried this, you are really missing out on something.

Thanks to whoever thought of doing this first, great idea.

Chris
 
i did that with both my Pika and my 555 and i must agree with you that it makes opening a lot faster. i found the regular size zip-ties to be a little small for me so i went with the large kind and that seemed to work better. i haven't had to do it with my spyderco yet though, i find the 14mm spyderhole and the sharp edges that you don't see on benchmade ovals work fine for me.

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Knifeclerk said:
Did you mod the clip on your pika also? Because those are all set for tip down carry.
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nope, it's still tip down. the clip is just on the other side.
 
cmd said:
Thanks to whoever thought of doing this first, great idea.

Chris
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We'll never know who did it first, but Spyderco founder Sal Glesser says he saw zip ties on Spydercos since the mid-1980s.
 
BOK said:
So whats the point of the ziptie on the Pika then?
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oh, i wasn't clear. the zip-tie on the pika is more for positive engagement since the chamfered oval doesn't really allow for a good grip with my thumbs. the zip-tie on the mini-grip does work like the wave though.
 
Okay, I am not getting this. Um.
Why the zip tie node on the spy or griptillian? I own both and find both very fast to open, but I like speed, so if these makes them faaassttter....then I may have to try it.
I have zip ties at home so I will probably be playing with it now that I have heard of it. Just to test it out.
 
It works like the EKI wave.

See here for a vid of how it works. Click on 'video vault'.
 
After seeing it mentioned on here a few times, I found a zip tie and tried it out with my AFCK, and it works really well! Not sure how long I'll keep it this way, but its fun for now
 
OK, so I'm probably just discovering something that lots of folks have known about and experimented with for decades, but...

I was a little nervous at first about carying my AFCK with the ziptie kinetic opener IWB (self-inflicted apendectomy appeared to be a distinct possibility) but after playing around with it for a while an practicing slowly then normal, this is just too cool. Like magic, actually. It is comfortable, discrete, quick, and easy.

Chris
 
I've been tinkering with zip ties that way for a few years now, one thing that I think is worth mentioning is that I truly believe it is HARD on ANY lock. I used to believe that Emerson liner locks were thin and weak. Now I'm more of the belief that the "wave" action is hard on any knife. (never had a problem with non waved Emersons) I've discovered weakened locks on both my Axis AFCK and my liner lock AFCK after making this tweak (liner lock AFCK was drilled and tapped for tip up carry)

Not saying "don't do it" just saying that ya' might wanna keep your carry options open if you do, and be prepared to send it in for repair once or twice a year.

(unless I'm the only one so amused by "waving" knives that I do it several dozen times a day for shucks and grins)
 
Runs With Scissors said:
I've been tinkering with zip ties that way for a few years now, one thing that I think is worth mentioning is that I truly believe it is HARD on ANY lock.
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I just do can't see how this would be any worse on an axis lock than any other method of opening, including opening the normal way with a thumb. Flicking it open must be the hardest on any lock and that does not seem to be a problem when done occasionally with an 806. The kinetic opening feels very smooth and without jarring anything.

I'm not saying you are wrong, you know what you have experienced.

Please explain.
 
Hmmm....I've got five minutes left on break...I'll try to adequately explain my experiences in said time... :D

I purchased my Axis AFCK with the sheer intent of putting zip ties on it. it came tight, and solid, I'm sure you know... at first when I'd wave it the knife would open too fast for the mechanism to catch. I'd say that went on for about three or four weeks before it "broke in" or whatever. Things were all well and good for about three months, before the first time I dropped the knife and watched it fold when it hit the ground. Wondering "WTF?) I picked it up and gave it a moderate spine tap and watched the blade fold again. Thing is I'd discovered the lock held up well to regular use that didn't involve jarring impact, so I refused to let it go long enough to get it fixed (cleaning helped, but didn't rectify the issue)

I also discovered the lock to be BADLY Weakened on my Large Ascent after about two months of carrying it zip tied.

and the same rough pattern and time of wear followed for my liner lock AFCK, Spydie Wegner, and a SOG Pentagon Elite I had (The SOG loosened up, but didn't give)

I'm merely an end user. I'm sure there's alot to be said for speed and hardness of openings, frequency, maintenance, the nature of individual knives, and whether or not any members of the production crew are suffering a hangover on the given day of production :D

I'll see if I can catch up again when I get home from work tonight, eh?
 
to heck with my 806 thats why they have a warranty.

so, what did benchmade have to do to repair the knife? replace the blade?
 
His clip, cuz when he drew it, he forgot about the ziptie and he lost his grip, dropping it. ;)

JK


I'm not sure if it was fixed. He said, "I refused to let it go long enough to get it fixed"
 
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