Air rifles? Anybody an expert?

Please be forwarned...this is a hunting post...best to pass it up if hunting offends you



agerageguy--

I can respect that you have a different opinion and feelings about pest control with air rifles, based on your experience. I too have heard of people requiring too many shots with a pellet gun to eliminate pests. I've also seen people take too many shots with rimfire and centerfire arms to eliminate pests. These are people who didn't understand proper shot placement, and they either learn it or I don't shoot with them again.

My experience is that if you destroy the nervous tissue in the brain or where the spine meets the brain, the animal immediately shuts down. I've found it to be a very quick and humane way to control pests with little or no suffering. You can gut-shoot a squirrel all day and it will live. Hit it once in the brain pan and it dies immediately and painlessly.

The skin and skull around the brain of a cottontail or Eastern Grey Squirrel is incredibly thin compared to the rest of it's body. It only takes 3 foot-pounds of energy, at the target, to penetrate the skull and destroy the brain pan. That's not much at all, and should be a reminder to exercise all the firearm gun safety rules with airguns as well.

If you pass on all frontal shots, which can deflect off the angular facial bones (.22 rimfire will do this as well, especially on raccoons), and just take profile shots (directly under the ear, at eye level) or shots directly to the back of the head, a single well-placed pellet will do the job.

You have to know where to place the pellet to immediately shut the animal down (I don't mean anchor, I don't believe in that, I mean a quick, painless death). If you can imagine the skull in 3-D it will help you know where that spot is. It also helps to hold the skull of the pest you are after in your hand and examine it from different angles so you can see the best place to make the shot.

I have a Beeman R7 that chronies in the high 600s (my actual measurements, not the inflated marketing numbers). I have legally hunted and pest controlled in my area several hundred eastern grey squirrels (one tough critter!) and 10 cotton tails. I limit my shots to 30 yards or under (great practice for stalking skills), wait for profile or back of the head shots, and pass on many shots that are not ideal. I've required only 9 second shots--and those were quick follow-ups that I was mentally prepared for. I know a guy that's taken over 500 squirrels with only two follow-up shots. He shoots a match rifle even less powerful than my R7, but he really knows how to use it.

If I had attempted body shots that were not perfect heart-lung shots, I would have required many more follow-up shots. Since the heart is not a larger target than the brain, I prefer to take only head shots. If I miss a head shot the animal scampers away unharmed. If I miss a heart shot the animal would be wounded and suffer if it got away.

Most seasoned airgun hunters take the "one shot one kill" method to heart. This might be because with airguns all you have is accuracy, you don't have excess power to compensate for marginal shots, so you feel you need to make the shot count.

Again, I respectfully repeat that I understand where you're coming from, and am not knocking it at all. I just wanted to share another side to the story. Accuracy will do the job if you do your part. But if you don't have accuracy, extra power will usually not make up the difference.
 
* Note to self: Read then flap gums :)

.177 should be around 850 fps.

In the UK we have an adage

.177 for feather .22 for fur

I second the opinion of pass through. I had a HW80 at around 900fps with H&N Barracuda (very heavy for .177) that I used for Field Target. This was a tuned gun and very nice to shoot. I was asked to clear a steel works of feral pidgeon once because of the mess they made and found that I was not doing a humane enough job as the pellet whould just drill through them and I was left to finish them off with a shot to the head with a wad cutter.

I didnt kill anything after that and to be honest it revolts me. Field Target on the other hand is great fun.
 
Temper: I agree about FT being fun!

Do you shoot Hunter Class FT? It's a newer class over here in the US but I understand it's been around a while in the UK. Clubs here are free to impliment their own rules, so most use it as a limited-equipment opportunity to bring new shooters into the sport. Scoped rangefinding is prohibited, as is magnification over 12X. No clicking is allowed, so it's just hold-over and hold-under, as most hunters would do in the field.

Do they shoot Metallic Silhouette in the UK? That's another great airsport that I love. Sure, the distances are always the same, but since it's shot offhand so the challenge is there. :cool:

I've heard the "feathers and fur" quote before, but didn't know it was British in origin.

Most of my rifles are German or Austrian, but I do have one fine example of British machining: I'm a proud owner of one of the last AA ProElites to be made. Mine is is .22 cal. and I think it's a shame that it was taken out of production. It really is a nice hunting gun, and once I learned to handle the recoil, it found it to group every bit as well as the HW97 I shoot now, and the AA TX200 that I used to own. It chronies 20.5 FPE at the muzzle with JSB Exacts and the extreme spreads are in the single digits. It's a great example of the airgunning industry being alive and well in the UK. This is a gun that was meant to be powered up to US levels, so I can see why it didn't make a splash in Europe at the 12 FPE level. I can't see owning all that gun but being restricted to low power.
 
Alas I havent been able to shoot for years as I have been in Japan for almost a decade.

When I was about 14 I entered a huge field target comp and came 4th in the whole event. Some guy with a Sharp Innova pump gun beat me. He beat me again in Cambridge the following month too so he was pretty good ;)

I started out on 10m standing target with an Original model 66 (Break Barrel recoiless, it used 2 springs in opposite direction to achieve that, odd but it worked well, I couldnt afford the Feinwerkbau 600 that I lusted after.)

About 18 months later the guys with PCP Daystates were scooping up all the prizes and if you couldnt afford about 2000 pounds worth of gun and scope then your chances were slim indeed :grumpy:

I am thinking of moving back though and the RWS and Loguns are at the top of my list :)
 
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