Air Rifles

dea its not an expensive gun, it was 300 canadian so just divide it by 2 :P no i dont know the exchange rate, its a diana something i dont know the model

the other rifle is a bit more it cost my ddad 500 dollars a while ago
 
Originally posted by armlessbandit
.177 caliber dart,

If your using a dart or a bolt the kind with the moheaking hair/plastic rod and with the dart on the end with that rifle, id would suggest you to stop and not practice that anymore. As the part of that dart that holds onto the needle, is stainless steel is not good for rifled barrels and will damage them. They sould only be used on guns desegined for them like the Crosman Black Venom/Fang or the Marksman 2005 (most popular "BB" ever made) as they have smooth bore and there is no resistance.

BTW, the Diana do make nice rifles.:)
 
Originally posted by armlessbandit
dea: 500 yards...

Guys,
Not to be a wet blanket or anything, but DEA did ask for an "effective" range, not a maximum range.

DEA,
As one who would have a difficult time making his .308 centerfire hunting rifle group consistently at 500 yds in field conditions ;) , I generally try to limit my high powered air rifle shots to around 50 yards. YMMV :)
 
I've got a Beeman Wolfpup....25 caliber, starlight scope. Don't know the fps but it's over 1000. It will pop through 1/2" plywood at 50 yards like it wasn't even there. Hits quarter sized targets at that range time and again. Wonderful compact bush gun. The only drawback is charging it up on a scuba tank after every 25 shots, but no pesky cocking required.
 
On the other hand, I just shot some Colibri and Super Colibri ammo out of a Russian .22lr military trainer. What a Hoot! Quieter than the Red Ryder that we were shooting.
The Colibri is a .22lr that uses only primer and no or little powder as in the Super Colibri. It has a 20 grain pointed pellet like bullet and gets pellet gun velocities. It will not cycle a semi-auto but in a bolt gun you can hear the pellet strike louder than the action. Seems you have lot of both worlds, Quiet, Accurate, and can still load a regular .22lr if needed.

Colibri~375 fps (114 mps) 6.00 Ft-lb
Super Colibri~ 500fps

http://www.aguilaammo.com/newproducts.htm

Gadget54
 
Gadget54,
Good point!

I was a huge airgun addict for a long time. Through the years, I had Beeman Magnums R1, R10, R7, a Kodiak .25 cal., (I can't even remember all of them), and assorted Sheridans. I liked them but they were very expensive, fairly loud and heavy! That was before I discovered the wonderful world of subsonic .22's!

Standard or hyper .22's, (and even shorts), can be pretty loud. Subsonics have been around for a long time but until recently I never gave them a try. They are SUPER QUIET and most aren't even as loud as a regular pellet rifle! They now come in a lot of different loads and as Gadget noted, can even be had with just the primer as the propellent and are virtually noiseless in standard length .22 barrels.

I live in a very secluded, rural area and have quite a few ground squirrels around that are real pests. I had dinged quite a few with with my pellet rifles but usually only precise head shots dropped them with any frequency.

A few months ago I had a chance to buy an old Stevens Model #15-A single shot, bolt action rifle at a ridiculosly low price. I then bought some subsonic hollowpoint .22's. WOW! Talk about QUIET and DEADLY! Forget about being quieter than ANY pellet rifle I ever owned, these things are quieter than most cap guns! Deadly? You can even forget head shots, these things drop those pesky ground squirrels right now out to about 50-75 yards! At least I get these results in my 24" BBL old Stevens.

Now I'm not saying not to enjoy your "adult" pellet rifles but even a quality, new, single shot, bolt action .22 rifle is a heck of a lot cheaper than a adult air rifle. You can also get subsonic .22's for not much more than quality pellets.

Just be aware though, subsonic's won't cycle your semi-auto .22 rifles and work best in single shot bolt action's with barrels of 20" or better.
 
AS far as I know air rifles and pistols are not considered firearms. They are in the same class as archery equipment. Good luck with your hunting.
 
Air rifles do not require a yellow form (Form 4473) or a Brady check. Even Wal-mart and K-Mart sell them "cash and carry". I am not aware of any legal distintion in the U.S.A. between a Red Ryder or Crossman sold at a mass marketer versus an adult Hi-Power air gun.

Newer Modern Black Powder guns (generally primer fired "bolt" type rifles) require a yellow form just like a traditional centerfire firearm but, the older classic style black powder guns do not require a 4473 so that may be an option. I'm not a lawyer so, I would suggest reading the applicable laws yourself from the ATF website regarding the rules that apply in your particular case.
 
A cool and informative forum on airguns...
http://talk.hunters.com/room_116/topics.cfm


In Ohio revised Code 2923.11 definitions

a "Firearm" means any deadly weapon capable of expeling one or more projectiles by the action of an explosive or combustible propellant...

A "deadly weapon" means any instrument, device, or thing capable of inflicting death, and designed or specialy adapted for use as a weapon, or possesed, carried, or used as a weapon.

2923.131 Having weapons under disability...fujitive..felon...no person shall knowingly aquire, have, carry or use any firearm or dangerous weapon...

Grateful... I don't know your circumstances but it seems that it is up for interpretaion. Contact your local game warden and ask.

Gadget54
 
"I am no longer allowed to use firearms and sure miss rabbit and squirrel hunting."

IMO, Squirrel hunting is more fun with an air rifle than with a .22...
 
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