Airport closed due to UFO, again today

If you ask me, I DO NOT think these Chinese sighting are visitors. I believe these are Chinese military craft. Are they "unconventional" like visitor craft? Absolutely. I think this is a message to the USA from the Chinese.
"Now we have them, too."
 
Agreed... great... now there's going to be an "unconventional" aircraft race between us and China :P

But those are some pretty cool images.
 
The race began sometime in the early 70's. (That's when, it seems, we "figured" it out. Only took us 24 years.) I don't know when the Chinese got serious about the project, but I have heard that their project started some time in the 90's.
The billion dollar question is: Will the Chinese keep it a secret or will they go public and force the Americans to do the same?
 
DannyinJapan said:
http://www.weirdasianews.com/2010/10/03/ufo-delay-mongolian-airport/
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The beams of light, overcast day and sharp image would indicate possible use of an advanced hologram projector. They are top secret technology which we have (allegedly) had since the late 1980s.

Holograms are neat, but they're just an illusion. What is really cool is the floating transport planes the military has been experimenting with. Not VLTO, not LTA, probably not "anti-gravity" either. Do not know how they do it. Large fixed wing transport plane with tiny engines that make a high pitched whine, painted olive drab with "U S NAVY" stenciled on the side. Saw that plane hovering over the Little Creek Amphibious Base and slowly drifting over the Oceanview neighborhood in Norfolk on several occasions about 5 years ago. Must not be too much of a "secret" since they were doing this in broad daylight. Can't find anything about it online, and a fellow I know with command level contacts in Naval SPECWAR said he never heard of anything like that. Because it is sooper sekret.
 
When untold thousands of "i dont know what that was" occurrences take place, with mathematical consistency, then you DO know what it was, you just don't know the details.
 
DannyinJapan said:
When untold thousands of "i dont know what that was" occurrences take place, with mathematical consistency, then you DO know what it was, you just don't know the details.
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It was unknown. That is what it was.

When you eliminate the possibility of hoaxes, optical illusions, natural phenomenon, weather balloons, and secret prototype military aircraft (including drones) you get into the realm of the uncanny.

It may be possible that some of these true unknowns are extraterrestrial in origin, but I'm thinking the bulk of them are some sort of extradimensional phenomena we are incapable of understanding with our limited perception.

When true unknowns have been observed in the past, they have done things that are considered physically impossible. Extreme g-force changes of direction, levitation, teleportation, shapeshifting, and even passing through solid objects including slamming directly into the ground without a trace.

These do not appear to be physical objects as we know them. It is possible our eyes or minds may even be playing tricks on us. What we see may be something quite different from its true nature. This would be expected when something from another dimension interacts directly with our world.
 
Not true. You need to look at more case files. Not only do they appear to be made of materials we already possess, aluminum, magnesium, silver, copper and some synthetics like kevlar, they leave trace evidence behind indicating mass, heat and radiation.
They are just machines.
 
DannyinJapan said:
Not true. You need to look at more case files. Not only do they appear to be made of materials we already possess, aluminum, magnesium, silver, copper and some synthetics like kevlar, they leave trace evidence behind indicating mass, heat and radiation.
They are just machines.
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Danny, you need to open your mind and consider alternate hypotheses.

I am familiar with many of the cases of which you speak. It is indeed very possible that some of these cases are indeed based on true events rather than hoaxes or disinformation. There have been MANY hoaxes. A few were probably paid for with your tax dollars, but I don't want to go too off topic with that particular tangent right now.

It is NOT my intent to debunk anything. I believe that some of these things are, indeed, machines as you have asserted. If we were to speculate on who or what was building them the list might be longer than you think. I am of the opinion that probably 2/3 of the cases for which actual physical evidence has been presented are hoaxes. The other third, we don't know what happened and can say maybe these are actual pieces from an unidentified aerial machine.

I will tell you this, though. I've seen a lot of weird stuff and have been researching it since before you were born. I still don't know what's going on. I do know that some of these things are multi-dimensional and possibly non-material. I've seen some of these things up close and they were not machines. Conversely, my Dad saw one up close during the 1950s but what he saw very clearly was some sort of mechanical aircraft.

These are not all the same phenomenon. There are NUMEROUS unidentified objects in the sky, and they are very different from one another. Research will confirm that. Some appear to be machines, but many are something else.
 
I have considered every plausible hypothesis. The only one I have discarded is the "spirit" hypothesis, as I do not believe supernatural creatures would require a ship to get around.

Personally, I think 99.9% of cases are B.S. or misidentifications. That 0.1% however, represents THOUSANDS of cases. Most people have no clue how many cases there are.
Further, I don't base my opinions on my own personal ideas. I find the most credible, unimpeachable sources and listen to what they have to say. What these men indicate is that we are talking about machines that exploit a realm of physics that has not been publicly explored as of yet. Pretty simple, really, but as Freidman says, "hard to tinker with in your basement."

I have to question your claim of seeing "non-mechanical craft" up close and personal. I think we'd all like to hear that story in detail.
 
DannyinJapan said:
I have considered every plausible hypothesis. The only one I have discarded is the "spirit" hypothesis, as I do not believe supernatural creatures would require a ship to get around.
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Well, "spirit" is just a word people use to describe something that appears non-material that they don't understand. It is not a very good word, as different cultures and religions often have very specific definitions for this word.

DannyinJapan said:
I have to question your claim of seeing "non-mechanical craft" up close and personal. I think we'd all like to hear that story in detail.
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Three separate occasions, all with multiple witnesses. Each time happened when I was quite young. Age 5 (with my parents), Age 10 (with several Boy Scout troops at an event), Age 11 (with about a half dozen guests at a wedding reception). The closest I actually came to one was probably 200 feet, and it was fairly well lit up and it may be possible that all that external illumination was concealing a mechanical aircraft -- but the way it zipped around would have killed anything inside it from the extreme g-forces.

I'm uncomfortable going into detail about these occurrences on a public forum. None of the things I saw looked or behaved in any way like mechanical aircraft. However, the thing my Dad saw looked like an aircraft fuselage with no wings or fins hovering close to the ground. He stated it looked like polished aluminum and he saw a row of portholes and a row of blinking lights. This was in the woods as a teenager with several members of his Scout troop.

I spent years researching this subject and came to the conclusion that at least 75% of the popular books available in the United States are either written by kooks or are deliberate attempts to spread disinformation. The US is very unique both in its level of secrecy and its attempt to ridicule the subject. Our government really seems to be scared of these things for some reason. I think it is because they cannot control them.
 
Anything that can and does deactivate nuclear missiles from a distance SHOULD scare the heck out of the govt. As to control, no we can't control theirs, but we can control ours. For three decades, I believe, these unusual craft have served as a kind of supreme deterrent for our country. They let out just enough info to let the bad guys know we have a supreme ace up our sleeve. Now, it seems, even that advantage has been lost.
However, that may a good thing for us peons in the long run. If the Chinese let the cat out of the bag, then we might actually see the amazing technological advances that this technology provides.

For what it's worth, I don't think G-forces are a factor if one exists inside a separate, uniform acceleration field. The scuttlebutt is that one does not feel the ship moving at all.
 
i'm sorry i flew my craft too close to you hoo mons again.

was paying attention to the DOTD on the big screen ;)


Bladite
 
There was a story about a UFO scare in Manhattan only yesterday; I'll see if I can find a link....
 
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