ALL SOLD ! mammoth ivory scales and fossil horn

[motherofpearlcc]

$326.00 including shipping charge to worldwide SOLD

$466.00 for all of them,16 pairs, including shipping charge to worldwideSOLD

 

[Bruce Bump]

Call me "dummy" but what is fossil horn? What animal is it from? Why is it still usable? Wouldn't it be rotted and powder by now?

 

[motherofpearlcc]

Already Sold, thanks for asking.

Call me "dummy" but what is fossil horn? What animal is it from? Why is it still usable? Wouldn't it be rotted and powder by now?

 

[Bruce Bump]

Already Sold, thanks for asking.

Why couldn't you answer my simple question anyway?

 

[John L]

Why couldn't you answer my simple question anyway?

Bruce: It is a wooly rhino horn and is solid and can be cut up to make any size scales you want. I have used this material in the past.

 

[Bruce Bump]

Thanks John,
Interesting, I guess I've never seen a wooly rhino. Were they from the North and lived the same time as Mammoths?

Bruce: It is a wooly rhino horn and is solid and can be cut up to make any size scales you want. I have used this material in the past.

 

[John L]

Thanks John,
Interesting, I guess I've never seen a wooly rhino. Were they from the North and lived the same time as Mammoths?

Bruce: They lived mostly in central/eastern Europe and western Asia. Horns are about 20-40K yrs old. So...same time as mammoth but went extinct earlier.

 

[Mark Knapp]

Hi John and Bruce, Wooly rhino did not have a horn core. The horn grew off of a pedicle with no core in it. That is how we can differentiate between modern species of rhino horn and wooly rhino horn. This looks like a horn core of a steppe bison to me, same era. It is porous but when filled makes an attractive handle.

 

[motherofpearlcc]

Hi mark thanks for the information.
not sure it is from which animal. too hard to find wooly rhino horn to compare with.
here is some pictures show rhino horn and bison horn

Hi John and Bruce, Wooly rhino did not have a horn core. The horn grew off of a pedicle with no core in it. That is how we can differentiate between modern species of rhino horn and wooly rhino horn. This looks like a horn core of a steppe bison to me, same era. It is porous but when filled makes an attractive handle.

 

[Mark Knapp]

Hi mark thanks for the information.
not sure it is from which animal. too hard to find wooly rhino horn to compare with.
here is some pictures show rhino horn and bison horn

Hi Nini, This is an interesting subject, thank you for allowing us to talk about it in your "For Sale" thread.

Hi also to Bruce and John,

I don't have any modern rhino horn, it's not a material that one should associate with in the U.S. I can't comment on your example of rhino horn but the steppe bison horn you pictured looks just like the stuff we find in Alaska. I do have some woolly rhino horn. I bought it from a Russian dealer of mammoth ivory.

woolly rhino horn is flat, it grows in blade-like shape. It has no horn core of bone like modern rhino and pretty much all bison,cows, goats, and sheep.

In this picture we can see steppe bison horn next to the woolly rhino horn.

Nini, what would you say the material is that you offered for sale in the original post? To me it looks like the kind of horn core that is sometimes dredged up from the bottom of the North Sea. Any ideas?


When we talk about horn material it is the outer sheath of keratin (like finger nails and hoofs). The horn core, when it has a core, is bone.

 

[Bruce Bump]

Mark, interesting to say the least. Thanks for chiming in here and giving us some examples. I been around the block a few times and never seen any fossil horn. I have seen bison core and it does indeed look like this example in the first post. I'm no expert so thanks for the lessons.

 

[Mark Knapp]

Mark, interesting to say the least. Thanks for chiming in here and giving us some examples. I been around the block a few times and never seen any fossil horn. I have seen bison core and it does indeed look like this example in the first post. I'm no expert so thanks for the lessons.

You bet Bruce, it bears noting here that none of this is actually fossilized. For others that might be reading this, "fossil" is the term we use to describe these old materials. "Ancient" is a better description because the horn is still horn and the bone is still bone, not stone as the word fossil implies.