Alone Season 2

We have bull sharks here too. Documented as far up the Mississippi as St. Louis.

I spent a bit of time looking it up, couldn't find much but it seems you can still eat crabs and lobster during red tide, just not oysters, muscles or clams or the like.

That would suck, all those muscles and not able to eat them.

Crab trap seems like something that could change the game.
 
I honestly didn't get if Tracy is a feminine man or a masculine woman.
but what's the point of casting such a bag of fat? he/she could easily survive months without eating and doing nothing.

Her looks have little to do with survival skills, that is a ridiculous comment that adds no value. She is both former military and law enforcement. She seems quite settled in, she will probably do well. Shes also not just fat she is a very large individual.
 
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Crab trap seems like something that could change the game.

You have to go a fair distance out, so farther than you can wade. No piers there so a boat would be a must.

Not impossible but a lot of work before you could pull it off. The previous season seemed to show they did better just to eat stuff that could be bait instead of rolling the dice.
 
Her looks have little to do with survival skills, that is a ridiculous comment that adds no value. She is both former military and law enforcement. She seems quite settled in, she will probably do well. Shes also not just fat she is a very large individual.

While I am a huge proponent on physical fitness, this show isn't American Ninja Warrior. IMO Tracy was the only individual in the first episode who truly displayed a sense of belonging in her environment. There was no panic or rush to her. She got the job done and seemed to soak in her environment as a blessing as opposed to an adversary. I think in this case the old adage of, "don't judge a book by it's cover", truly applies.

I watched some of the drop off scenes prior to the first episode. Just seeing Desmond handle his gear I had a strong feeling he wouldn't last. It seemed as if it was all unfamiliar and uncomfortable to him.

As for a down bag in a wet environment that was one of those head scratchers for me. Can't understand why anyone would opt for that choice.

I use this show as a teaching point for my children. All the errors and successes each contestant make are discussion points for our family. I'm very grateful for this.

My pick to to outlast all is Jose.
 
Tide goes out, set trap, tide comes in water 10, 15 feet above trap.

I cought crabs right off the beach in Fl. more than once. Crab come in to the beach when tide comes in.

Not talking about deadliest catch kind of crab.
 
Finally got a chance to watch it some.

Desmond - dude psyched himself out. His area to set up in looked great - other than the bears. Watching him set-up and handle his gear did not make me think of someone who is an experienced woodsman.

Mary-Kate - you're going to a temperate rainforest and you bring a down sleeping bag? Add in it appeared she didn't do a good job selecting her camp site, or setting up because she got rainwater under her tarp. The several comments about her wet boots is telling to me. If she remains cold and damp I predict she is done.

Larry - guy got the short straw of those shown on the area he was dropped into. Needs a better camp site otherwise he is going to be burning much needed calories later.

Tracy - definitely my favorite among the 4 shown. Taking it all in stride and keeping a positive outlook.

Ok so shellfish are out due to the Red Tide, but fish are ok. Could you use the mussels as bait to fish with or in snares though? Or is the toxicity from the fungal blooms too strong so that eating something that ate the mussel would make you sick?
 
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This is about the red tide, got a question. Some of you guys from the gulf may know.

I understand the whole red tide thing, but I seem to remember an issue years ago, like twenty, maybe thirty. Red tide hit somewhere and the oyster beds were covered and they just moved the oysters to a different bed until they washed themselves out.

Couldn't she just move the muscles to the fresh water in the creek to let them wash themselves out?

Seems like it would be like soaking a bucked hide to get the lye out in running water or a large pond, just a thought. With that much food laying there it would be a game changer.

We have muscles here (Ohio) but unless you're a raccoon you cant eat them because they are protected.

Unfortunately with most of these ocean algal bloom related toxins is they stay in the animal until it dies or take months to expel. We just had algal bloom (Domoic acid) this last winter that almost completely shut down our winter dungeness crab season. They just opened it back up as of 3/26 I believe after a few months.

With mussels, clams, oysters is they take much longer to expel those toxins as they accumulate in deeper parts of the flesh/organs, sometimes months. This means using one as bait would be about the same thing as just eating one risk wise.

I'd take the abundance that it's a good sign one is in best seat by the buffet line of all sorts of fish waiting to be cooked up. I dig her positivity for sure!
 
Well maybe someone will this round.

Easy to cook and lots of cals.
I wouldnt want to depend on it but even if you only got a few a week it would be better than nothing. Pluss with all the shellfish that you cant eat, you have plenty of bait.

Also, watched last year, what i didnt see, or they didnt show were racoons. Seems like there should be coon all over the place.

Some of the best barbecue I have ever eaten was raccoon. they're not that difficult to catch either. mostly because they're curious as hell and just smart enough to get themselves into trouble. plus with all those muscles huge amounts of bait

Pluss the fact that they gave them a night vision camera, or at least a camera that is night vision capable.

Not an expert, at all, just a few thoughts, or ideas.
 
It seems as though people are well equipped for emergency communication and clothing to protect them from the elements, as well as emergency first aid. I now foraging for food must be a problem, but I imagine the biggest challenges will be psychological. The most successful contestants are probably those with good mental and spiritual resources.:)
 
We had the what are they allowed to hunt talk during the last series but there was never a concrete answer. I suspect the producers keep it under embargo to avoid affecting the perceived reality.

There are protected species out there like Abalone for example. Other like crab need to be a particular size or sex to harvest. The contestants most likely have crib notes.

http://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/s.../fishing-hunting/hunting/regulations-synopsis

http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/rec/index-eng.html
 
I've read throught the last few pages and I'll address a few points. Questions about the reality of the show are all over the internet, not just here. I've seen all sorts of things floated as possible nefariaous"off camera" trickery. In short, there wasn't any. They weren't stocking us with food and water, giving us advice on how to survive, etc. The producers never attempted to script me, or give me any indication of the drama they wanted to see. Media and medical checks were held approximately once a week and they were short and to the point. A cameraman would grab my footage and restock my batteries. The producer would ask a few questions, what he should look for in my footage, highlights ect. The survival consultant would do a quick medical/mental check-up and they were back on the boat and gone. Any contact with the crew outside of that was limited to reporting any injuries or when critical camera gear went belly up.

Desmond has loads of skill at fishing and it is a shame he didn't last to show us all how that is done. He would have done very well at it. I saw one comment (not here) that his tap out was fake because it showed two camera angles! He took the time to set all that up, knowing the entire would would jump all over him. People ride him for being fearful but at least he flmed it all.

Everyone is so wary and sceptical about being tricked into believeing the show is real... IT'S REAL. We really were thrown into it. We really were alone, just us, our tools, our wits, our knowledge, and skills; dropped into an alien environment to figure it out, and shoot 4 to 6 hours of video a day doing it. Oh, and you're slowly starving to death. The raw reality of the show is that it exposes every weakness you have. IMO the first qualification is that you be willing to do that in front of millions of people.

Feel free to speculate and predict and strategize and analyze our efforts, we did all this so you can enjoy the experience along with us. I read lots of comments that are spot on, but can't say anything about them. Have no doubt, it is harder than you imagine to do it right out there working 12 hour days seven days a week for as long as you can last. They emphasized repeatedly during bootcamp and orientation that we would be totally on our own, no resupply, no replacement of broken or lost tools, no food drops on the sly, no contact with the outside world.

I will say this, if you have never had your head handed to you in the bush, you didn't go in deep enough or stay long enough. It can break anyone.
 
You can imagine the stunned silence in the room when the Canadian fish and game people told us that all bivalve filter feeding shellfish were off the menu. Tracy shot a huge bed of mussels and that is a common sight, and all of it could potentially kill you dead in short order. Cooking does not destroy the toxin and there is no reliable field test I'd bet my life on. Another toxin out there destroys your short term memory for life. Don't play games with it.
 
Danke42, my read of the situation was all non-season game was good to go, which would be all your rodents and fur-bearers. I might not be totally accurate, as all my small game hunting was in Sask, and as such the rules may have been different (we were also under agricultural rules on private land..... if you follow my drift) I think they probably kept it low key since an entire potential game listing would be too long for time, and it leaves most people feeling like its not a free for all. I don't think its an embargo thing, as much as it is just a matter of convenience as far as a conversation they don't really want to have. Its also possible there were differences between the two seasons.
 
Sam from last season posted an interesting video about the first episode. He addresses predators and how he deals with them. Also, they have quite a bit of restrictions on hunting which really sucks. I can't remember if he mentions it in this video or another one, I have been watching too many Alone videos... XD I don't have TV but I've been sucked into this show and have been streaming it!

[video=youtube;5WqebCStekY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WqebCStekY[/video]
 
pict, your insight is much appreciated! it is very easy to play armchair quarterback when watching these shows, but going out and actually doing it is a whole other level. The area you all were dropped in is so foreign to my stomping grounds, that I probably couldn't last very long. Kudos to all who make it past a few days, that's a tough environment!
 
Danke42, my read of the situation was all non-season game was good to go, which would be all your rodents and fur-bearers. I might not be totally accurate, as all my small game hunting was in Sask, and as such the rules may have been different (we were also under agricultural rules on private land..... if you follow my drift) I think they probably kept it low key since an entire potential game listing would be too long for time, and it leaves most people feeling like its not a free for all. I don't think its an embargo thing, as much as it is just a matter of convenience as far as a conversation they don't really want to have. Its also possible there were differences between the two seasons.

I haven't spent a lot of time ashore up there so I'm not 100% on how prolific those small mammals are. All those little furbearing animals need a permit to hunt though. With Raccoons there's often a concern about rabies. There are marmots but they're endangered so no go. Maybe Pict can chime in now or when the show is done if they got the green light.

Off the cuff I'd guess no. Those trapping permits are hard to get; they come with some nice back country privileges.

There's always Alan's Slug Souffle.
 
100% of the people that have lost the show, lost because of mental weakness... It's fun to debate "what would you take?" but that has VERY little to do with life in the bush.
Anyone that hates on my post will refer to the idiot from season 1 that left because of his "halucinations" IF IF IF his issues were real, they would have shown us proof... He's just another weak person that quit. Notice that in the recap of the season he didn't state any Med records, or even stated what exactly he had contracted? because he didn't...
LITERALLY NO ONE lost because of their tools, they ALL lost because they are weak of mind.
 
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