Alox Scissors Petition - No Mod

Discussion in 'SwissBianco' started by Grampa, Oct 31, 2010.

  1. Grampa

    Grampa

    Jan 17, 2006
    I would be very interested in a factory made Alox Farmer with factory made scissors.

    I understand that at the moment, Victorinox is not interested in producing one, but what if you were able to produce evidence that many people here would like to get one?

    Note that I am NOT interested in some sort of mod.

    Thus, I hereby petition Victorinox to reconsider their decision re Alox scissors, and produce Alox knives with factory produced scissors. I believe the sales of such knives would make the cost of tooling up for said production worthwhile.

    Can I get a second?
     
  2. jackman2

    jackman2

    590
    Feb 3, 2010
    Well good luck. I would like them too. But considering there are less than 400 posts total in the history of this subforum. Might as well just get it modded.

    How about an alox swiss champ?
     
  3. ufox9al

    ufox9al Slacker at large Moderator

    367
    Jun 28, 2007
    The question of scissors for alox 93mm SAKs (as well as resurection of 84mm scissors) have been brought up many times, including an online petition for 84mm scissors a couple of years ago. It did not go anywhere at the time.

    Swissbianco is aware of the demand for 93mm scissor layer, and is looking at the possibilities. Unfortunately, even if using 91mm scissors, the proper backspring needs to be manufactured, which is a big deal.

    Rather than running a petition on the forum, I would encorage you to contact Victorinox directly with your request. Lately, Victorinox has been actively working on their customer relationship channels, and, based on some comments from their PR guys, they are now paying extra attention to customers' input. You can post a message (and start a petition) on their Facebook page.
     
  4. swissbianco

    swissbianco Moderator Moderator

    819
    May 28, 2005
    at this time this wont happen. the problem is the quantity. if i can order and pay of course bigger quantities we have an chance.
     
  5. manowar669

    manowar669

    Oct 1, 2002
    I too would buy one.
     
  6. orca8589

    orca8589

    Jan 27, 2007
    I'd be all over an alox SAK with scissors. If it could be done, I'd buy it.

    ~Chris
     
  7. Guyon

    Guyon Biscuit Whisperer Staff Member Super Mod

    Mar 15, 2000
    A Farmer with scissors would be up there as far as my favorite SAK.
     
  8. burf151

    burf151

    297
    Dec 29, 2005
    I would buy several!!!
     
  9. busterbones

    busterbones Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 16, 2005
    count me in too! that would be perfect!
     
  10. BenchmadeBoy

    BenchmadeBoy

    Sep 4, 2005
    Funny, I showed up here with the idea of asking about a Farmer with scissors! I would buy one in a heartbeat. I currently carry a Huntsman, but a Farmer + scissors would be the Grail SAK for me. If there is a list, put me down for one. Another thing, I'm not on Facebook. Is there another way to contact Victorinox? I mean a dedicated feedback line or product suggestion? Seems funny that they would balk at something so often requested, yet within their power to make happen. There obviously is a demand . . . .

    Thanks
     
  11. pepemrtnz

    pepemrtnz

    793
    Oct 13, 2010
    If we all buy ten, I bet we can make it happen.
     
  12. dfwcowboy

    dfwcowboy

    131
    Jun 22, 2010
    More like 1000 each and then MAYBE!

    The costs for production equipment changes to produce just one new layer on an alox SAK is a huge investment.
     
  13. swissbianco

    swissbianco Moderator Moderator

    819
    May 28, 2005
    its more like 10 k needed... ;)

    merry christmas
     
  14. pepemrtnz

    pepemrtnz

    793
    Oct 13, 2010
    I guess I am a little confused. How did the bushcrafter get produced with ~100 being made but the farmer with scissors is a no go until 10K? I am not criticizing at all, just curious as to how one is possible but the other is not.

    Thanks for all your hard work!
     
  15. ufox9al

    ufox9al Slacker at large Moderator

    367
    Jun 28, 2007
    I't very simple - Bushcrafter is simply a Farmer without the opener layer, so Victorinox can easily assemble this model. Scissor layer, on the other hand, does not exist for 93mm frame. While scissors themselves may be lifted from the 91mm line, the backspring is completely different. The cost of making 93mm scissor layer is prohibitively expensive for any run of less than 5K or even 10K units.
     
  16. BenchmadeBoy

    BenchmadeBoy

    Sep 4, 2005
    Well . . .I'm in for 1.:D
     
  17. Donald

    Donald

    738
    Jan 20, 1999
    I would buy more than one Farmer with scissors. If they go with smaller scissors and only produce the correct backspring, would there be room for a small blade? The cost could be spread around by using it with other Victorinox alox 93mm models and with the Wenger SI...and while they are at it sell the saw blade for some Wenger SI models with the saw and scissors. :D
     
  18. pepemrtnz

    pepemrtnz

    793
    Oct 13, 2010
    If there was room for scissors AND a small blade in the same layer I would buy 5-10. If they were red alox, I might shed a tear :D
     
  19. swissbianco

    swissbianco Moderator Moderator

    819
    May 28, 2005
    ya all never want stop with that want ya? :D

    the good news: red alox is not the problem. and there is a spring that works the main big blade and a small blade, as best i now thats still made. the awl would be gone.

    scissors and small blade wont fit, way to little space in there. wont help us if we put in a scissor of the 58mm classic etc size.

    if that all happens, what sak want the most of you? an farmer with the added layer for a scissor? or a farmer with the saw replaced with the scissors?

    and no, we dont start the preorder jet :rolleyes:
     
  20. pepemrtnz

    pepemrtnz

    793
    Oct 13, 2010
    Farmer with added scissors would get the money out of my wallet the fastest for sure. But then again, if it is a Farmer without scissors, thats just like a soldier with scissors and Id have to buy several of those as well. I am in for five either way.
     
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