Am I off to the right start?:O

lol nice, i just recently got out of fish keeping... my pg&e bill was upwards $200-$300 each month and i couldnt do it anymore and slowly broke down tanks. i havnt been to king aquarium in yearsss, miss the huge display tank infront :). knife keeping/collecting can be equally as expensive if not more than planted tanks :D

I honestly feel like I'm headed in that direction. I sold all the shrimp I had because I was doing less&less water changes from being busy with senior year/sports. So my tanks have been just plants for the past 3-4 months. I've never actually been to King Aquarium, I've read lots of bad experiences there. Lots of other places in SJ and SF got my attention though:) Idk if I should break down my tanks, sell the plants I have and use that for this new hobby, but it's an option I guess.
 
Its a tough call...."more knives" or "better knives"! If you have the patience to save your pennies for a while, I'd second the Delica suggestions. It's a great knife...not terribly expensive...and a step above a "starter" knife.

Though, if you'd like to accumulate more, get an Opinel! Or a couple of them. Phenomenal low priced cutters. You will be shocked at how well they cut things. Or, people rave about Rough Rider slipjoint pocket knives. Dirt cheap and good.

Hmmm.. Not really liking that those styles of knives. I guess that's just my preference though:P
 
I honestly feel like I'm headed in that direction. I sold all the shrimp I had because I was doing less&less water changes from being busy with senior year/sports. So my tanks have been just plants for the past 3-4 months. I've never actually been to King Aquarium, I've read lots of bad experiences there. Lots of other places in SJ and SF got my attention though:) Idk if I should break down my tanks, sell the plants I have and use that for this new hobby, but it's an option I guess.

the prices and general health of the stock isnt the greatest there... but the display tank in front, several planted tanks and *cough* the back room *cough* is worth the visit alone + the food spots. for equipment/tanks im not sure anybody can beat 6th ave. aquarium in SF... you can also haggle with the owner david and while youre in sf check out chris at aquatic central on ocean ave about 20min away. aquarium concepts in dublin/pleasanton also isnt a bad place to check out too :)

thats most likely will be the direction youre headed... have you invested in a decent lighting system as well as c02 injection yet? its all going to add up and im not sure how profitable the freshwater plant scene is. you maybe want to shift gears and go SW and do coral propagation if you want to make real monies but thats an even greater investment.

orrrr drain the tank and turn it into a knife display case lol

heres a few fan favorites worth checking out:
ontario rat 1
spyderco tenacious and siblings
kershaw blur, ram and skyline
spyderco paramilitary 2
benchmade griptilian
 
Hmmm.. Not really liking that those styles of knives. I guess that's just my preference though:P

Cool! How about a Kabar Dozier Folding Hunter? I own the "Large" and it is an excellent knife for a very low price.

(But you really ought to get an Opinel...the way it cuts is as stylish as it gets! :))
 
orrrr drain the tank and turn it into a knife display case lol

LOL on that last option. 20G Long tank with multiple shelves to display them? Sounds good. haha

My lighting system is a DIY CFL hood. It's decent, cost about $10 to make. No CO2, couldn't risk that with shrimp (don't go well together). I was gonna let the shrimp breed like rabbits, since the market for breeding them is crazy and you can get a good profit if done right, but with the amount of time and money I could actually put into the project, I had to cut it.
 
Cool! How about a Kabar Dozier Folding Hunter? I own the "Large" and it is an excellent knife for a very low price.

(But you really ought to get an Opinel...the way it cuts is as stylish as it gets! :))

Is Kabar a good brand? I've been scoping them too, but have read to avoid them.?:O

I'll keep an eye out for the Opinel, I will most likely get a slight liking for it and pounce on the deal. haha
 
LOL on that last option. 20G Long tank with multiple shelves to display them? Sounds good. haha

My lighting system is a DIY CFL hood. It's decent, cost about $10 to make. No CO2, couldn't risk that with shrimp (don't go well together). I was gonna let the shrimp breed like rabbits, since the market for breeding them is crazy and you can get a good profit if done right, but with the amount of time and money I could actually put into the project, I had to cut it.

what kind of shrimp were you breeding? cherries?
 
Is Kabar a good brand? I've been scoping them too, but have read to avoid them.?:O

I'll keep an eye out for the Opinel, I will most likely get a slight liking for it and pounce on the deal. haha

Kabar bad? Where the heck did you hear that?!? Youtube?

And an Opinel will only set you back 8-10 bucks! You can't afford not to have one! :)
 
if youre on a budget its also worth checking out the enlan el01, enlan el02 as well the the srm 710
 
I've kept OEBT, BTOE, Tangerine Tigers, Rilis, cherries, yellows, and orange neos:P haha

But for the enlan's, is there anywhere to buy it in the US? I'd rather not have order from overseas. They look like decent knives for the price, too.
 
I've kept OEBT, BTOE, Tangerine Tigers, Rilis, cherries, yellows, and orange neos:P haha

But for the enlan's, is there anywhere to buy it in the US? I'd rather not have order from overseas. They look like decent knives for the price, too.

check your visitor messages again ;)
 
My advice is to skip the cheapo knives all together. As far as I'm concerned, unless you want to risk horrendous blade play and other fit and finish issues, I'd stay away from SOG. The recon1 is a decent knife but leaves a lot to be desired in terms of materials. Cold steel makes great "beater" knives, but in my opinion that's all they are. The triad lock is crazy strong and most cold steels are pretty overbuilt and can take a beating. Overall they are good working knives (there's nothing really high tech or classy about them). The biggest downfall with cold steel though is their terribly cheesy marketing and "mall ninja" looks. I'm sure the tacticool design philosophy appeals to somebody (usually young people new to knives), but you will find that many experienced collectors and knife users typically steer clear of those types of knives.

So, with that said, I recommend jumping straight into the middle of spyderco's range. Skip the tenacious/persistence line and go for the seki city made spydercos in the $50-75 range. That means dragonfly, delica, endura, and stretch. There are also the "salt" variants of some of these knives which use completely rustproof H1 steel. After that, the Golden CO made spydercos bump up in price, but also bump up the quality of materials. There are many standout in that bunch but the Paramilitary 2 and the native 5 are the cream of the crop in my opinion. Taichung Taiwan makes some of the very best spyderco knives in terms of fit and finish and most models represent quality usually unattainable for less than $200-300. The sage 1 is the best deal around in my opinion. S30v blade steel, carbon fiber handle scales, spectacular pocket clip, and excellent design and absolutely top notch fit and finish for around $100. You absolutely cannot go wrong.

The next thing I would take a look at is the Benchmade Griptilian line. They come in either full size (3.4" blade) or mini (2.9" blade) and at around $60, are an excellent introduction to both Benchmade knives and the Axis lock. When shopping for Benchmade's, don't let the listed prices scare you. Benchmade's requires dealers to display prices more in line with their msrp, but when you actually go to purchase one, most online dealers offer considerable discounts.

In terms of Kershaw, as you've probably gathered, it's hard to go wrong. They make many excellent knives in the $30-50 range. The skyline is a favorite of many, but I think the best deal out there right now is the speedform 2. If you look hard enough you can find one for around $75, and for that price you get excellent elmax blade steel and sculpted smooth g10 scales.

All in all though, these suggestions can only get you so far. You really just have to go ahead and buy the knives you think you'll like. You will like some of them as much as you thought you would, others...not so much. You'll soon develop a set of features you prefer and that's when the real fun starts (and typically prices go up...).

Good luck in your decision and welcome to the forums!!!
 
lol great post mk, however... i believe most of us started with the sub $30 folder which at the time we though was expensive enough as is :). entry level knives in the sub $50 category are great stepping stones into the world of knife collecting and using. i have friends that ive introduced to the hobby that are still reluctant to use any of their knives over $40 haha.
 
lol great post mk, however... i believe most of us started with the sub $30 folder which at the time we though was expensive enough as is :). entry level knives in the sub $50 category are great stepping stones into the world of knife collecting and using. i have friends that ive introduced to the hobby that are still reluctant to use any of their knives over $40 haha.

Very true I suppose. I guess my way of thinking is that if you are looking at a $40 folder, you could easily save up an extra $10 for a $50 one. And so on and so forth. Most of my users are over $100 and a couple are significantly more than than.. I started out buying cheaper "user" variants of my expensive knives (for example, I edc'd a bm 707 for 3 years and I bought a 556 to beat on), eventually I discovered that every time I was using a cheap knife I thought to myself "man, I wish I was using something a little nicer... " so eventually I just said screw it and gave up on cheap knives. The exception being the spyderco delica and the benchmade mini grip. I currently carry a Ritter mini grip with custom cf micarta scales every single day, but then again, my minigrip isn't really a minigrip anymore and costwise is near a used sebenza so...take that with a grain of salt.
 
Very true I suppose. I guess my way of thinking is that if you are looking at a $40 folder, you could easily save up an extra $10 for a $50 one. And so on and so forth. Most of my users are over $100 and a couple are significantly more than than.. I started out buying cheaper "user" variants of my expensive knives (for example, I edc'd a bm 707 for 3 years and I bought a 556 to beat on), eventually I discovered that every time I was using a cheap knife I thought to myself "man, I wish I was using something a little nicer... " so eventually I just said screw it and gave up on cheap knives. The exception being the spyderco delica and the benchmade mini grip. I currently carry a Ritter mini grip with custom cf micarta scales every single day, but then again, my minigrip isn't really a minigrip anymore and costwise is near a used sebenza so...take that with a grain of salt.

haha yeah i can relate to that but i also would like to add that entry level knives are excellent to delve into self sharpening with... the same cant be said with more expensive knives im afraid. i would never suggest "hey go grab yourself a spyderco paramility 2 for your first folder. you cant lose, its a great knife... you should learn how to sharpen with it too!" = FAIL

sometimes i feel the knife hobby has gotten so convoluted over the years with different manufacturers/subsidiary companies, super steels, fancy innovative locks, handle materials etc etc etc for $10, $20, $50 or $100 more its all a bit confusing for people getting into the hobby nowadays who are looking for a simple all around practical edc knife haha.

at any rate, he looks to be on a good path... not sure where its leading ala crk or strider ;)
 
Ohman, sharpening is gonna be a whole new thing for me-_- My Volt II is pretty dull after I brought it to a fishing/camping trip and I've been wanting to sharpen it, but don't have any stones/devices for it. Been thinking about sending it to Kershaw but would rather learn how to do it myself for the experience. Haha


Sent SrJoben a PM through his website, hoping to hear from him soon!
 
Ohman, sharpening is gonna be a whole new thing for me-_- My Volt II is pretty dull after I brought it to a fishing/camping trip and I've been wanting to sharpen it, but don't have any stones/devices for it. Been thinking about sending it to Kershaw but would rather learn how to do it myself for the experience. Haha


Sent SrJoben a PM through his website, hoping to hear from him soon!

buy yourself a sharpmaker NOW... or as soon as you can :)
its great for beginners to learn how to properly maintain their factory edges (most of the time). its very easy to use and almost idiot proof.
you wont capable of doing any serious reprofiling with it (even with diamond rods) but i wouldnt suggest somebody new to the hobby to do such things anyway.
 
Man.. I knoow. I'll have to be conservative with this hobby. Although I'm 99.983992% sure I'll fail at that. haha:grumpy:
 
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