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Gloating about scummy move. :thumbdn:
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Price is$300$250 ea (shipped within CONUS). If you live outside the US, I will contact you after your order for extra shipping charges.
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Amazon order mixup in my favor...
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To publicly gloat about this is the epitome of poor taste and low morals. You didn't pay for the Yojimbo, so it's not yours. You paid for a UKPK. Whatever the difference in cost is between the UKPK and the Yojimbo, you're guilty of stealing that amount. Congrats, thief. You stole from a store.
Karma is a bitch, and it will bite you in the ass down the road.
Karma is a bitch, and it will bite you in the ass down the road.
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Just to cover my ass in regards to karma I did let Amazon know that I received a different item than I ordered but was willing to keep it. They apologized for any inconvenience and said they hope I treat it as a one time error and continue to order from them.
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...ha says after getting called out after publically bragging about pulling a douche move. Wow. Just, wow.
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Damn, I get he isn't a saint, but sheesh, calm down.
The anger and vitriol is outrageous. Like he beat someone's grandma with a cane he stole from her.
Should he have contacted them to say "hey, wrong knife you sent, want me to send it back?" Yes.
OP, now you know where all the saints soon to be named by the pope are located. Bladeforums. In the future do the right thing from the jump, and it comes back to you in the other ways.
The anger and vitriol is outrageous. Like he beat someone's grandma with a cane he stole from her.
Should he have contacted them to say "hey, wrong knife you sent, want me to send it back?" Yes.
OP, now you know where all the saints soon to be named by the pope are located. Bladeforums. In the future do the right thing from the jump, and it comes back to you in the other ways.
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The gas you burn to drive to the post office (to fix amazons mistake) probably affects your finances more than that mix up affects theirs.
Put the pitch forks and torches away guys.
I once got an extra McNuggets and ate it instead of calling mc'ds hq.
" YOU DOUCH BAG SCUM SUCKING POS. YOURE ON MY IGNORE LIST"
Holy smokes.
Put the pitch forks and torches away guys.
I once got an extra McNuggets and ate it instead of calling mc'ds hq.
" YOU DOUCH BAG SCUM SUCKING POS. YOURE ON MY IGNORE LIST"
Holy smokes.
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I'm more shocked that no one crucified me
For ordering from Amazon instead of my local knife guy.
For the spyderco rep asking about the upc to ensure it's not an issue with the whole batch, hope this helps.
For ordering from Amazon instead of my local knife guy.
For the spyderco rep asking about the upc to ensure it's not an issue with the whole batch, hope this helps.
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The level of morality is directly promotional to the geographical location of the incident. The moral high ground is much easier to maintain when it happens in your backyard, now add some miles between where it happens and where they live and that line gets fuzzier the further from home it happens. You know it's the, "...what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas mentality that used to rationalize actions like that.
Want to make that kind of a post you say, I ordered a knife and got sent one worth 3X more. I contacted amazon and told them to pay for the shipping and I'll ship the wrong knife back when the correct knife is received or at the very least I have a confirmation of shipping with tracking#. That's a perfectly reasonable request and when the OPP followed that by, "...amazon apologized for the mistake and would ship the correct item with confirmation and tracking # immediately and to keep the other knife as an apology for the mistake and taking up my time."
I've had that happen when ordering on line many times with various items, most time it's just not worth the time and cost involved with the whole process of getting it back and restocking it along with the corrections needed to be made to the inventory. Restocking the $120 knife could cost them twice that in man hours in the office, the warehouse for the physical adjustments, (remember, there's still a UKPK missing and possibly in a wrong box mislabeled somewhere else which could cost them all I've mentioned before plus more shipping fees till this is all straightened out.
Then there's the chance of losing a few customers over the inconvenience and cost to make them waste their time and then charge them for their mistake. I'd rather eat the mistake, write it off on taxes and now have two spokespeople for the company talkin' about how an honest mistake was made right and even better because of the way it was handled.
That would be much better than , Amazon made a mistake, screw them they're a big company and can afford it. Hey I think I'll go on the biggest knife forum on the internet and brag about how I'm gettin' over on amazon. Then when I realize it was a bad call on my part to expect a sympathetic response from the community as a whole I back peddle and expect everyone to forget that I just admitted I was remorseless thief with a whopping 9 posts and treat me like I'm one of the gang. Oh and if we're really lucky, someone else as clueless will make a trade with him and when the deal goes bad not understand why he gets no sympathy.
Let Mr give you a little advice, if you're going to exploit a company's mistake and essentially rip them off, it's a bad idea to brag about it on an open forum. If your intention was to take advantage of the situation save that bragging for the local bar where you know everyone and you're less liable to be judged. BTW, I'm not judging, I have my own opinion about what happened but I'm no judge. To the other posters who are sayin' to take it easy on the guy as well as those condemning him as a thief, remember if you draw a line in the sand you have to stand on one side or the other, there's no "on the fence" once you acknowledge there's moral line you have to pick one side or the other. Now if you combine that with the distance corollary, "The farther from home the incident of moral confirmation occurs, the fuzzier the line on the moral high ground becomes, if you step back far enough from the incident, if you distance yourself far enough away from the center of attention no one really cares what you do as long as it doesn't immediately impact them or as long as no one has seen them notice. (plausible deniability, "...damn, I didn't even know about it) you can plead ignorance. Unfortunately if you comment and don't make it known what side of the fence you're leaning you leave it to everyone else to form their own opinions, right or wrong as they may be. Now if he'd have kept his mouth closed from the start no one woulda noticed and most likely he'd at least had a sympathetic ear had he come across in the op as a guy waiting to hear from amazon about what to do. Hell most likely the people here would've said "...keep your fingers crossed and amazon might just let you keep the knife anyway while sending the correct one to complete the order.
Hey, secretly we all would hope if it was us we'd get to keep the mistake knife, I know I would but I'm certainly not gonna brag/talk about what I did on a public forum if it was illegal or immoral.
TL;DR version
If you're gonna do something illegal or immoral don't advertise about it on an open public forum but if you do, then don't get upset when the masses judge you and don't agree with you.
Want to make that kind of a post you say, I ordered a knife and got sent one worth 3X more. I contacted amazon and told them to pay for the shipping and I'll ship the wrong knife back when the correct knife is received or at the very least I have a confirmation of shipping with tracking#. That's a perfectly reasonable request and when the OPP followed that by, "...amazon apologized for the mistake and would ship the correct item with confirmation and tracking # immediately and to keep the other knife as an apology for the mistake and taking up my time."
I've had that happen when ordering on line many times with various items, most time it's just not worth the time and cost involved with the whole process of getting it back and restocking it along with the corrections needed to be made to the inventory. Restocking the $120 knife could cost them twice that in man hours in the office, the warehouse for the physical adjustments, (remember, there's still a UKPK missing and possibly in a wrong box mislabeled somewhere else which could cost them all I've mentioned before plus more shipping fees till this is all straightened out.
Then there's the chance of losing a few customers over the inconvenience and cost to make them waste their time and then charge them for their mistake. I'd rather eat the mistake, write it off on taxes and now have two spokespeople for the company talkin' about how an honest mistake was made right and even better because of the way it was handled.
That would be much better than , Amazon made a mistake, screw them they're a big company and can afford it. Hey I think I'll go on the biggest knife forum on the internet and brag about how I'm gettin' over on amazon. Then when I realize it was a bad call on my part to expect a sympathetic response from the community as a whole I back peddle and expect everyone to forget that I just admitted I was remorseless thief with a whopping 9 posts and treat me like I'm one of the gang. Oh and if we're really lucky, someone else as clueless will make a trade with him and when the deal goes bad not understand why he gets no sympathy.
Let Mr give you a little advice, if you're going to exploit a company's mistake and essentially rip them off, it's a bad idea to brag about it on an open forum. If your intention was to take advantage of the situation save that bragging for the local bar where you know everyone and you're less liable to be judged. BTW, I'm not judging, I have my own opinion about what happened but I'm no judge. To the other posters who are sayin' to take it easy on the guy as well as those condemning him as a thief, remember if you draw a line in the sand you have to stand on one side or the other, there's no "on the fence" once you acknowledge there's moral line you have to pick one side or the other. Now if you combine that with the distance corollary, "The farther from home the incident of moral confirmation occurs, the fuzzier the line on the moral high ground becomes, if you step back far enough from the incident, if you distance yourself far enough away from the center of attention no one really cares what you do as long as it doesn't immediately impact them or as long as no one has seen them notice. (plausible deniability, "...damn, I didn't even know about it) you can plead ignorance. Unfortunately if you comment and don't make it known what side of the fence you're leaning you leave it to everyone else to form their own opinions, right or wrong as they may be. Now if he'd have kept his mouth closed from the start no one woulda noticed and most likely he'd at least had a sympathetic ear had he come across in the op as a guy waiting to hear from amazon about what to do. Hell most likely the people here would've said "...keep your fingers crossed and amazon might just let you keep the knife anyway while sending the correct one to complete the order.
Hey, secretly we all would hope if it was us we'd get to keep the mistake knife, I know I would but I'm certainly not gonna brag/talk about what I did on a public forum if it was illegal or immoral.
TL;DR version
If you're gonna do something illegal or immoral don't advertise about it on an open public forum but if you do, then don't get upset when the masses judge you and don't agree with you.
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Good post Ted, agreed.
The level of morality is directly promotional to the geographical location of the incident. The moral high ground is much easier to maintain when it happens in your backyard, now add some miles between where it happens and where they live and that line gets fuzzier the further from home it happens. You know it's the, "...what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas mentality that used to rationalize actions like that.
Want to make that kind of a post you say, I ordered a knife and got sent one worth 3X more. I contacted amazon and told them to pay for the shipping and I'll ship the wrong knife back when the correct knife is received or at the very least I have a confirmation of shipping with tracking#. That's a perfectly reasonable request and when the OPP followed that by, "...amazon apologized for the mistake and would ship the correct item with confirmation and tracking # immediately and to keep the other knife as an apology for the mistake and taking up my time."
I've had that happen when ordering on line many times with various items, most time it's just not worth the time and cost involved with the whole process of getting it back and restocking it along with the corrections needed to be made to the inventory. Restocking the $120 knife could cost them twice that in man hours in the office, the warehouse for the physical adjustments, (remember, there's still a UKPK missing and possibly in a wrong box mislabeled somewhere else which could cost them all I've mentioned before plus more shipping fees till this is all straightened out.
Then there's the chance of losing a few customers over the inconvenience and cost to make them waste their time and then charge them for their mistake. I'd rather eat the mistake, write it off on taxes and now have two spokespeople for the company talkin' about how an honest mistake was made right and even better because of the way it was handled.
That would be much better than , Amazon made a mistake, screw them they're a big company and can afford it. Hey I think I'll go on the biggest knife forum on the internet and brag about how I'm gettin' over on amazon. Then when I realize it was a bad call on my part to expect a sympathetic response from the community as a whole I back peddle and expect everyone to forget that I just admitted I was remorseless thief with a whopping 9 posts and treat me like I'm one of the gang. Oh and if we're really lucky, someone else as clueless will make a trade with him and when the deal goes bad not understand why he gets no sympathy.
Let Mr give you a little advice, if you're going to exploit a company's mistake and essentially rip them off, it's a bad idea to brag about it on an open forum. If your intention was to take advantage of the situation save that bragging for the local bar where you know everyone and you're less liable to be judged. BTW, I'm not judging, I have my own opinion about what happened but I'm no judge. To the other posters who are sayin' to take it easy on the guy as well as those condemning him as a thief, remember if you draw a line in the sand you have to stand on one side or the other, there's no "on the fence" once you acknowledge there's moral line you have to pick one side or the other. Now if you combine that with the distance corollary, "The farther from home the incident of moral confirmation occurs, the fuzzier the line on the moral high ground becomes, if you step back far enough from the incident, if you distance yourself far enough away from the center of attention no one really cares what you do as long as it doesn't immediately impact them or as long as no one has seen them notice. (plausible deniability, "...damn, I didn't even know about it) you can plead ignorance. Unfortunately if you comment and don't make it known what side of the fence you're leaning you leave it to everyone else to form their own opinions, right or wrong as they may be. Now if he'd have kept his mouth closed from the start no one woulda noticed and most likely he'd at least had a sympathetic ear had he come across in the op as a guy waiting to hear from amazon about what to do. Hell most likely the people here would've said "...keep your fingers crossed and amazon might just let you keep the knife anyway while sending the correct one to complete the order.
Hey, secretly we all would hope if it was us we'd get to keep the mistake knife, I know I would but I'm certainly not gonna brag/talk about what I did on a public forum if it was illegal or immoral.
TL;DR version
If you're gonna do something illegal or immoral don't advertise about it on an open public forum but if you do, then don't get upset when the masses judge you and don't agree with you.
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The level of morality is directly promotional to the geographical location of the incident. The moral high ground is much easier to maintain when it happens in your backyard, now add some miles between where it happens and where they live and that line gets fuzzier the further from home it happens. You know it's the, "...what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas mentality that used to rationalize actions like that.
Want to make that kind of a post you say, I ordered a knife and got sent one worth 3X more. I contacted amazon and told them to pay for the shipping and I'll ship the wrong knife back when the correct knife is received or at the very least I have a confirmation of shipping with tracking#. That's a perfectly reasonable request and when the OPP followed that by, "...amazon apologized for the mistake and would ship the correct item with confirmation and tracking # immediately and to keep the other knife as an apology for the mistake and taking up my time."
I've had that happen when ordering on line many times with various items, most time it's just not worth the time and cost involved with the whole process of getting it back and restocking it along with the corrections needed to be made to the inventory. Restocking the $120 knife could cost them twice that in man hours in the office, the warehouse for the physical adjustments, (remember, there's still a UKPK missing and possibly in a wrong box mislabeled somewhere else which could cost them all I've mentioned before plus more shipping fees till this is all straightened out.
Then there's the chance of losing a few customers over the inconvenience and cost to make them waste their time and then charge them for their mistake. I'd rather eat the mistake, write it off on taxes and now have two spokespeople for the company talkin' about how an honest mistake was made right and even better because of the way it was handled.
That would be much better than , Amazon made a mistake, screw them they're a big company and can afford it. Hey I think I'll go on the biggest knife forum on the internet and brag about how I'm gettin' over on amazon. Then when I realize it was a bad call on my part to expect a sympathetic response from the community as a whole I back peddle and expect everyone to forget that I just admitted I was remorseless thief with a whopping 9 posts and treat me like I'm one of the gang. Oh and if we're really lucky, someone else as clueless will make a trade with him and when the deal goes bad not understand why he gets no sympathy.
Let Mr give you a little advice, if you're going to exploit a company's mistake and essentially rip them off, it's a bad idea to brag about it on an open forum. If your intention was to take advantage of the situation save that bragging for the local bar where you know everyone and you're less liable to be judged. BTW, I'm not judging, I have my own opinion about what happened but I'm no judge. To the other posters who are sayin' to take it easy on the guy as well as those condemning him as a thief, remember if you draw a line in the sand you have to stand on one side or the other, there's no "on the fence" once you acknowledge there's moral line you have to pick one side or the other. Now if you combine that with the distance corollary, "The farther from home the incident of moral confirmation occurs, the fuzzier the line on the moral high ground becomes, if you step back far enough from the incident, if you distance yourself far enough away from the center of attention no one really cares what you do as long as it doesn't immediately impact them or as long as no one has seen them notice. (plausible deniability, "...damn, I didn't even know about it) you can plead ignorance. Unfortunately if you comment and don't make it known what side of the fence you're leaning you leave it to everyone else to form their own opinions, right or wrong as they may be. Now if he'd have kept his mouth closed from the start no one woulda noticed and most likely he'd at least had a sympathetic ear had he come across in the op as a guy waiting to hear from amazon about what to do. Hell most likely the people here would've said "...keep your fingers crossed and amazon might just let you keep the knife anyway while sending the correct one to complete the order.
Hey, secretly we all would hope if it was us we'd get to keep the mistake knife, I know I would but I'm certainly not gonna brag/talk about what I did on a public forum if it was illegal or immoral.
TL;DR version
If you're gonna do something illegal or immoral don't advertise about it on an open public forum but if you do, then don't get upset when the masses judge you and don't agree with you.
good post for sure, although remorseless thief is a bit much. If this was the first post in response to the op's post, this whole thread would have a educational tone, instead of a stone the guy to death tone.
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I'm more shocked that no one crucified me
For ordering from Amazon instead of my local knife guy.
For the spyderco rep asking about the upc to ensure it's not an issue with the whole batch, hope this helps.
How is that "the correct box for a UKPK" -?
Confusion reigns, lol.
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The outer sleeve/box had a UKPK sticker on it....but per spyderco, that was done on amazon's side and not theirs. Apparently someone or some machine at Amazon just applied the incorrect label to this one...
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