An amazing or questionable 5000 lb lock

Joshua J. said:
??? Sounds like the guy on that video was given a two minute rundown of Benchmade knives and it's his first time trying to sell anything.
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Good call. Hooray for the axis lock. But if I were going into the field with a folder, I'd rather have a lockback. Easier to see and clean dirt from the mechanism. (A balisong would be even better, being practically self-cleaning, but ...)
 
That lil axis lock would snap under 5000lb of pressure, or even the liner or the frn handles.....
 
dtownknifekid said:
Good point... This is going off an eighth grade knowledge of physics, we did not get to levers or pressure yet in honors physics.
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Just remember to draw out a simplified picture of what is going on (or the problem), remember force is a vector, and keep your units correct. Basics are the foundation.

Some people still don't get the "pressure" thing.

You get a "thumbs-up" from me.:thumbup::thumbup:
 
Gene Chapman said:
let me test it in my fly press:):):):):):)
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I'm quessing you haven't since the video on the Benchmade Rift:D:D:D.In total there are 9 different benchmade vids and it gets very repetitive.

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The rep say that all the classes of Benchmade knives have lifetime warranties.He goes on to say that a lifetime warranty mean, " if you do ANYTHING to this knife.....break the tip,break the handle,break the axis lock....any part of the knife send it back.....you send it back to Benchmade either they will...repair it,fix it or send you a BRAND NEW one.."

What's going on with these reps,having to exaggerating things.Seen this before with the Kershaw rep at the 2008 Shot Show on youtube talking about the ZT100 how if it breaks they will send a replacement.Then to have Thomas say that is not normal but they will.
 
thats funny when he says repair it or fix it. Isnt that the same damn thing?. LOL;).

Hes sucks at being a presentor.
 
razorburn said:
The rep say that all the classes of Benchmade knives have lifetime warranties.He goes on to say that a lifetime warranty mean, " if you do ANYTHING to this knife.....break the tip,break the handle,break the axis lock....any part of the knife send it back.....you send it back to Benchmade either they will...repair it,fix it or send you a BRAND NEW one.."

What's going on with these reps,having to exaggerating things.
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That part's not an exaggeration, in my experience. I know two people who've been given brand new knives to replace ones with broken blades(one took a long fall and landed just wrong, another was a cop's, being used to pry open a window), and I've been sent a brand new replacement for a knife with a liner lock that was slipping-they sent me a newer 814 for a 812.
BM has phenomenal customer service.
 
Well I know nothing if the number is off (seems that way), but all i got to say is that they have GOT to get a better sales person!

Sales is the grease on the wheel of the economy and that man is squeaking!
 
I don’t know if the Axis lock is really capable of withstanding 5000lbs of pressure or not, this was a US Cavalry ad, not Benchmade.

I do know that the Axis lock is one of the best and strongest locking systems ever developed.

I believe McHenry and Williams invented this design. Benchmade promptly saw the genius and marketability of the design and bought the patent rights.

Axis locks stay tight and wobble free for years. I’ve had other designs that got loose in a matter of days. Some of them you couldn’t tighten either. Axis locks are adjustable if they do develop play and you can disassemble them easily.

I’ve tried about every other decent locking system out there and nothing beats the Axis design. Some framelocks are strong, but you can’t CLOSE THEM easily, quickly or safely ONE HANDED. To those who argue that this isn’t important, or even handy, I ask you one question. Would you buy a knife that has a nail notch instead of a thumbstud? Of course not! Quick one-handed opening is important, safe and fun. So is closing a knife one handed.
In the sad world we live in that is full of sheeple, it sometimes is prudent to be able to whip out ones knife, slice whatever it is that needs severed, and shove your knife back in your pocket as quickly as possible to avoid spreading panic amongst the tender populace.

I can do this with an Axis in about 3 seconds flat. With one hand.
 
I don't know about you guys but I don't put my knives in a clamp and then use them to hold myself up like a peg. I mean I guess that's why I bought an SMF, but home many people have every had a problem with the axis lock failing?

Like someone mentioned (probably a few peoples) why bother over selling BM axis lock knives? The quality and functionality speaks well enough for itself. BM customer service is top notch, but why give people false hopes of a brand new knife? Sure they take care of you, but you have to expect them to maintain some restraint and place damage blame on the user rather than their company.
 
bearcut said:
I don’t know if the Axis lock is really capable of withstanding 5000lbs of pressure or not, this was a US Cavalry ad, not Benchmade.

I do know that the Axis lock is one of the best and strongest locking systems ever developed.

I believe McHenry and Williams invented this design. Benchmade promptly saw the genius and marketability of the design and bought the patent rights.

Axis locks stay tight and wobble free for years. I’ve had other designs that got loose in a matter of days. Some of them you couldn’t tighten either. Axis locks are adjustable if they do develop play and you can disassemble them easily.

I’ve tried about every other decent locking system out there and nothing beats the Axis design. Some framelocks are strong, but you can’t CLOSE THEM easily, quickly or safely ONE HANDED. To those who argue that this isn’t important, or even handy, I ask you one question. Would you buy a knife that has a nail notch instead of a thumbstud? Of course not! Quick one-handed opening is important, safe and fun. So is closing a knife one handed.
In the sad world we live in that is full of sheeple, it sometimes is prudent to be able to whip out ones knife, slice whatever it is that needs severed, and shove your knife back in your pocket as quickly as possible to avoid spreading panic amongst the tender populace.

I can do this with an Axis in about 3 seconds flat. With one hand.
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Framelocks are easy to close one handed...........
 
I'd guess that Ortho has it right. He may have meant 5,000 pounds per square inch.
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Even if he did, that still doesn't make sense. That would mean that for every square inch it withstands 2.5 tons. That raises the total weight, not lowers it.

Right?
 
sixboysdad said:
Even if he did, that still doesn't make sense. That would mean that for every square inch it withstands 2.5 tons. That raises the total weight, not lowers it.

Right?
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Close but not quite. Given that the axis lock consists of a steel bar wedging between the blade tang and the liners, that means that *theoretically* the tang/bar and tang/liner contact area will be infinitely small.:p

Of course, practicality intrudes, and the contact area isn't infinitely small. I believe Hardheart's counting is right on this one.

100 lb over 1 square inch = 100 psi
100 lb over 1/2 a square inch = 200 psi
and so on...
 
All the dewd had to say was, the Axis Lock is one one the finest, strongest locks made. :)
 
Has anyone compared the Axis lock against the Ball Bearing lock on some Spyderco's? Same principal I think, but the ball bearing lock looks a bit simpler, thus less likely to fail.
 
Roger999 said:
Framelocks are easy to close one handed...........
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I didn’t say that framelocks are hard to close. They are easier to close than say, a lock back or slipjoint.
I guess ‘easy’ is a relative term, but having to shove a framelock bar open with my thumb while simultaneously pushing the blade slowly into the handle with my finger, is a lot less efficient, not to mention riskier, than simply pulling the Axis lockbar back, with my digits safely out of the way, and snapping the blade back into the handle without ever touching it!
They are safer also; your thumb and fingers never have to cover the blade slot while folding the blade back into the handle. In fact, you don’t have to touch the blade at all!
Speed –wise, there is no comparison. With practice a person can open and close an Axis lock twice as fast as a framelock. I know, I have both types.

The only other lock that comes close to having the attributes of an Axis is the Paul Axial Lock. {Lone Wolf} They aren’t adjustable however, and some of us have had issues with their reliability and function.

I have framelocks and they always seem rather clumsy compared to an Axis.

Now if Chris Reeve or Strider could just invent something as good as Axis they would rule the folding knife world, their folders would be the undisputed champs. Their knifes are fantastic, but the framelock design just isn’t as nice to use as the Axis in my opinion.
 
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