An the Announcement is!!!

Discussion in 'Swamp Rat Knives' started by Eric Isaacson, Aug 26, 2002.

  1. Eric Isaacson

    Eric Isaacson Pirate

    Dec 19, 1999
    In order to celebrate this new forum we will be introducing the Howling Rat(Congrats Firehorse:D). This new knife will be a great hunter, camper and general utility knife.

    It will be available to order later this week, and the special introductory offer will only be for those who receive the Special email so get signed up at

    Here are a couple of pics.

    and here is a close-up of the edge (prior to sharpening). Yes, that's right .018" thick. It will slice, it will dice, it will handle much abuse. :D:D And, not to give away the surprise, but it will only cost in the $80-$90 range.

    BTW, just for comparison .018" is the thickness of approx 4-5 sheets of regular computer paper.

    More specs to follow :D:D
    (please ignore my misspelling in the heading :footinmou)
  2. SharpBits


    Apr 26, 2002
    My first Rat.'ve passed up two really good deals elsewhere. Maybe I can squeeze it into the budget...getting weaker...weaker...weaker...:eek:

  3. chiseen


    Oct 25, 2000
    Great knife! Can't wait to see the email.
  4. Bobby B

    Bobby B No more Mr. Knife-guy

    May 18, 2001
    Ooooh, my second Rat... must have, I think....:eek:
    Is that the 3.5" blade I see???

    Let me guess... $89.98???
  5. a223cat

    a223cat Kuttin' Kitty!

    Jun 29, 2002
    Cool. A new knife and very reasonable to boot. I guess my FIRST Rat will be coming soon!

    Started with Fallkniven, went to Sebenza, then Strider. Logical progression would be a Swamp Rat, yes? :D
  6. Bravado


    Feb 14, 2002
    Wow! Awesome knife and price! Congrats Firehorse!:)


    Feb 2, 2002
    Oh yeah, that will look great next to my Busse NO! So if we are on Busse's mailing list we will receive the special offer? I can't wait!
  8. Eric Isaacson

    Eric Isaacson Pirate

    Dec 19, 1999
    Correct :D:D
  9. Eric Isaacson

    Eric Isaacson Pirate

    Dec 19, 1999
    Here are a few more specs on the Howling Rat.

    Handle Material--Resiprene C
    Blade Length--approx. 4.5"
    OAL--approx. 9.0"
  10. Blues

    Blues Lapsed SuperMod / Cattle Knife Rustler Staff Member Super Mod

    Oct 2, 1998
    Length of the cutting edge?

  11. Gator97

    Gator97 Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 10, 2000
    Very nice, especially that it's thin :) Definitely need one.

    Eric, was the email sent? I am on Busse list for long time, but haven't received anything.
    Where do I place an order?
  12. Eric Isaacson

    Eric Isaacson Pirate

    Dec 19, 1999
    The email hasn't gone out quite yet, they will be available to order once the email has been sent.

  13. a223cat

    a223cat Kuttin' Kitty!

    Jun 29, 2002
    Will there by any options for sheaths in this new knife?
  14. Eric Isaacson

    Eric Isaacson Pirate

    Dec 19, 1999
    The sheath is a kydex lined cordura sheath with retaining strap. It is similar in design to the larger knife sheaths but it doesn't have the expandable utility pocket. I'll be posting some pics shortly.
  15. JohnS


    Apr 14, 2002
    Just wanted to check on whether or not the email on the sale of these has gone out yet.
  16. Eric Isaacson

    Eric Isaacson Pirate

    Dec 19, 1999

    No, not yet. We are still hoping to get the email out before the end of the week.
  17. Eric Isaacson

    Eric Isaacson Pirate

    Dec 19, 1999
    BTW, one addition to the specs.

    These are through hardened with a Rc of 58-60.
  18. RokJok


    Oct 6, 2000

    Will this make the HR brittle?? Would the HR stand heavy prying, as in forcing a door?? Most simple carbon steels get pretty brittle at that level of RC hardness. However, most simple carbon steels don't have performance levels like the bigger SRKW blades, so I'm assuming that the Swamp Rat gang factored in the brittleness issue in designing and heat-treating the HR. Nonetheless, has testing been done in this direction?

    I realize that a 4.5" blade isn't much of a prybar. The reason I ask about the brittleness is that the shorter length (short enough to squeeze under possible department regulations), coupled with its VERY AFFORDABLE pricing, makes it a prime candidate for EDC by LEO or Fire Dept personnel, who may very well use it a prybar in their day-to-day duties.

    Also, does the HR have the penetrator tip? The size & thin edge is right for game & fish dressing. The penetrator tip would help in starting some of those cuts.

    Many TIA, -- Greg --
  19. Eric Isaacson

    Eric Isaacson Pirate

    Dec 19, 1999
    First off, CRAP!!! I quoted the wrong Rc value for the HR, it is Rc 58-60.

    Secondly, yes testing has been done(remember whose shop these are made in;)) These will handle prying, obviously not as much as a Busse MS, but they will handle probably as much as someone can put on them without assistance(pipe or bar). And don't forget about that warranty, even if you do break one, we'll replace it.

    A little info we've discovered about this steel, it is extremely strong with our heat treat. If you use it for prying it may bend, but it will not explode(break like glass) like many other steels. And it is going to take a lot of pressure before you can bend it.

    I agree with you, I think this would be a great blade for LEO or Fireman, especially with this steel, this price, our warranty...:D:D

    The penetrator tip isn't used on the HR, it has a pretty fine tip as is. :D:D However, I don't think it would be hard to start skinning with the current tip configuration. When I was hunting and trapping more, I used a knife much worse than this one without problems.
  20. RokJok


    Oct 6, 2000
    Very cool, Eric. Thanks for the reply. I figured that the HR, like all SRKW blades, would be hell for tough and it apparently is up to the Rat Standard. No surprise there. :D Thank you for the info on the tip config. In the unlikely chance that a finer tip is actually needed on the HR, I guess a knife-knut should always keep his Dremel tool handy. ;) :rolleyes:

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