Ancient Edge?

Hi,:)

I own the earlier version which for me has a sheath that works very well. Bugei offered me one as an ex-Ranger.

The blade is still very fine in it's Ozaraku-zukuri shape

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I did a Review that they used at Bugei.com

I personally prefer this earlier model. It was pretty expensive at the time, but then they asked for my opinion and offered me one.
Obviously what I wrote is what I think. Hope it helps.
 
Hey Antonio, didn't know you finally decided to join this little corner. :)

Good to see ya here !

Blade is ATS-34, length about 4". If memory serves, the overall length is around 8". James William (of Bugei) designed this Hissatsu to be a truly CQ combat knife. Design for penetrating and slashing.

I'll try to find out the website that talks much about this one.
 
:) I was here for sometime in the past.
Thanks for the welcome Beluga. Now I gotta figure out your real name ;) Well you can always email me huh?
I'm a specialist in making mistakes with names :D so you better help me. ;)
 
Antonio!!! Great to see you here too! I am Karl Rejman from Sword Forum. Funny, I just commented on a Hissatsu thread over there yesterday, and now I find you here!


Bravado: here's a very quick, and by no means complete story on the Hissatsu. I believe the name means "final blow". The knife is designed as a close quarters fighting tool. Originally it was designed to be carried in the centre of one's chest, so that you could access it with either hand. THis blade was amrketed to police tactical teams and military personnel. There is a wasp waisted handle to help secure your grip, and the lack of a guard is purposeful: no snagging on your other gear.

Originally a bunch of the Hissatsu blades (100 I believe is the number I remember seeing) were hand ground by Bob Engnath. The original was ATS-34 steel. Ancient Edge came on this forum (maybe others too, I don't know) and tried to advertise (hype?) this knife. A lot of questions were asked about things like the advertised "slashing index", and no answers were received. Some found the original sheath to be rickety, and the response was that most operators will duckt tape it securely to their gear anyways, so the knife nut community didn't care for that either. If you run a search on the hissatsu, you'll find that the general consensus was great design, cost was too high for most here, and the odd hype/sheath problems really got to folks.

I for one am glad that this design is once again available to everyone. The Hissatsu II has a MSRP of $99, so it will be accessable to many more people. The sheath looks to secure th e blade well while leaving the handle very much exposed, great for a quick grab. However, the sheath does look bulky, as CRKT sheaths can be. Pick up a Hisstsu and send it to Normark or some other kydex wizzards and you'll have a great set-up! I imagine a hissatsu in one of Robert H.'s shoulder rigs would be damned sweet.
 
Hey :) Hi Karl,

Possibly I followed your link and am happy to be here. Actually I was here before. I've noticed I have about fifty something posts :)

I didn't know Bob Engnath did the grinding. I am led to believe that when I was offered one of the early Hissatsu these were made by another company. At Bugei they told me Desert Storm soldiers carried the Hissatsu. I believe that was true for the special operations troops.

I'd like to state that I'm entirely independent, have always been. I have my preferences for smiths and talk about that openly. Nothing to hide man.

Personally I dislike hype as an art director and as a human being. Let things speak for themselves. But we are indeed surrounded by marketing.

Let's say that from the pictures I've seen of the new Hissatsu, I dislike the sheath and the finish seems strange. Half polished, don't know... Do you have an idea?

Anyways there's plenty of nice knives here. Don't have much time to browse but have seen some nice stuff :)
 
Hey Antonio,



From what I remember, there was supposed to be 100 numbered, hand ground Hissatsus, and then the regular run was to be done not by Bob. But that is just what I remember, I could be wrong. They may not have had Bob grind any, for all I know. It could have been something that was planned, but not followed up on. Maybe I should shoot Ancient Edge an e-mail to clarify.


The pics of the Hissatsu II do not flatter the finish, agreed. I look forward to seeing different pics. The OZ tanto shape is awesome, I think. I love the pics of OZs that I have found on the net. I'm not sure what is is about them that I like, maybe th ecurve, dunno. I also like O-kissakis, so maybe is is just more of that!

Working on any new special sword projects Antonio? Oh, and I remember you asking about folders on SFI. Did you ever pick something up?
 
I called them a couple weeks ago about the Hissatsu. The price was listed at 79.99, but it's gone up since then. AUS6 steel for the blade, same as the CRKT version. The initial bunch is 200 pieces. I'm sure the Columbia one will be cheaper and more widely available.
 
Hi Carl,

I don't recall the 100 edition. But that may be my fault.
OZs are beautiful indeed and good slashers-stabbers as can be guessed. But any good knife can do the job, though each of us might have their own preferences.

Got another Specter from Gerber. It's a folder I've grown used to.
There's something new on the project list.

Anyway
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this piece is Still available.
 
Antonio (and others):

Click here to see a reference to Bob Engnath. The person who posted with the info was from Ancient Edge and said that about 100 were hand ground by Bob. Now that would be a keeper!!

Antonio, I like that blade! I actually looked at it a while ago, I believe on SFI. I think it is unique, because at first glance It looked liek a weird triangular pointed thing. But when you look closer, it looks a lot more like a clip point bowie, but with a yokote of sorts. Very interesting! And thetsuka is a wee bit attractive too.

I want to thank you again for the info you have given me on Mr. Nyra's tapes too, I believe I need to get his whole set.
 
Originally posted by Crayola
Antonio (and others):

Click here to see a reference to Bob Engnath. The person who posted with the info was from Ancient Edge and said that about 100 were hand ground by Bob. Now that would be a keeper!!

Antonio, I like that blade! I actually looked at it a while ago, I believe on SFI. I think it is unique, because at first glance It looked liek a weird triangular pointed thing. But when you look closer, it looks a lot more like a clip point bowie, but with a yokote of sorts. Very interesting! And thetsuka is a wee bit attractive too.

I want to thank you again for the info you have given me on Mr. Nyra's tapes too, I believe I need to get his whole set.
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Karl,
Interesting that you can find such an old post. I cannot tell you for sure when I was offered the Hissatsu but the link surely clarify things.

Well, it has a double edged kissaki so it is terribly efficient. The whole thing works around looking like a clip point but in fact the upper edge is sharp. This was a quick pic, and one can see the amount of work that went into it.

I'm sure that sooner or later it will find a good home ;)

I've got something else in the works for me. No disclosure yet :)
Gotta run. There's about an 11 - 12 hours difference from me to US Central Time.

Cheers :)
 
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