Ang Khola Ready for Chopping

b.c.molin said:
Whatever it is I'm sure the results of your review will be informative.:thumbup:

Just a note, please add "Chiruwa" in front of the 'Ang Khola' to denote the full tang style of blade you will be reviewing.;)
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If it makes you happy. :D
 
Yeah, Busse's ain't cheap. Due to the same contract restrictions that Horn Dog mentioned that keep us from discussing the blades for six months, we aren't supposed to disclose the exact price we paid.... let's just say it is A WHOLE LOT :eek:

I won't pretend it's SANE to pay that much for a production knife, but it's better than spending it on booze and horse races, I guess :p
 
MustardMan said:
Yeah, Busse's ain't cheap. Due to the same contract restrictions that Horn Dog mentioned that keep us from discussing the blades for six months, we aren't supposed to disclose the exact price we paid.... let's just say it is A WHOLE LOT :eek:

I won't pretend it's SANE to pay that much for a production knife, but it's better than spending it on booze and horse races, I guess :p
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I plead insanity. :eek: Just helping poor starving Jerry the kami and his kids in Wauseon.
 
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Wolf_1989 said:
The Kopis/Falcata swords of ancient europe had many forms of blades. Some were very curved... and some were only barely curved. What makes your knife resemble more of a kopis (IMO) are two things: the shape of the handle, and the wider cutting bevels of the blade.

I'm not knocking that design at all. In fact I love it! It's visually stunning and the overall execution of the design looks impressive to me.

But then, I'm biased in favor of those groovy forward-curved choppers, no matter what one wants to call them.

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The Khukuri's of Nepal and the work the Kami's do that work fo H.I. Hand Forged Nepalese Work's of Art ! I really like the Blade design of the Khukuri, And there are many different angle's of curvature, In the diffferent Khukuri's, That's the first I've heard of a High End Model from Busse, I like the Cold Steel USA Made Carbon V Model "It's more of a Tactical Type, Here's a Link showing the Custom's from MMHW these are Tactical Hollow Ground Blade's
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Glad (but not nescessarily surprised) to see that HI khuks are still the status quo, even against such a formidable opponent as Busse

My Opinion: HI is the Bee's Knees!
 
Wolf_1989 said:
From the overall form of that, and I do dig it, it looks to me to be more of a modern Kopis than a Khukuri.
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I remember when Jerry first mentioned the specs on the Busse forum, I remarked that it probably wouldn't be as good a woods tool as an HI, particularly the larger models (BTW, my 20"CAK is the standard I judge all others by, so even smaller HIs don't fare that well). However, as a fighting blade (It is, after all, Busse Combat, not Busse Woodworking or Busse Farming), it looked superlative.

I just hope he brings out a CG with the CBTs.

:D :D :D
 
The Busse is heavier than any of my other khukuris. It's not that HI doesn't make some that are even heavier than the Busse, I just don't own any. I prefer the lighter ones. I will take that into consideration, although I have seen lighter choppers perform quite well against heavier ones. As for the TTKZ being a combat weapon.......only if you're Conan. :D
 
I'll still take either of my M-43's over that Busse any day. And at roughly 1/5 th the cost I'll even smile about it.
 
No matter how well or poorly the Busse does, Busse lovers will buy Busses and HI lovers will buy HI Khukuris. The price alone makes HI Khukuris much easier to sell. And the hand made quality has to be one of the best values around. That is why I wanted to compare the Busse against a HI. HI is pretty much the standard for quality khuks.
 
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Not trying to turn this into a Busse vs. H.I. discussion, as both brands obviously have their devotees. I will say, though, that my Busse family knives are the only "users" I own that have gone up in value. Even if I use my Killa Zilla hard, and reprofile the edge, beat the crap out of it, and end up deciding I don't like it - I can probably sell it for a profit of at least a hundred dollars, if not much more.

In fact, the second-hand value of many of the Busse knives I bought at BLADE this year went up in value the moment I walked out the door. I don't feel nearly as bad spending outrageous amounts of money on a knife if I know I can get that money back out of it if I ever decide to get rid of it.


The H.I. knives are an outstanding value, and I love the traditional hand craftsmanship that goes into them. The two different companies are in two very different categories, and I have room in my mind to enjoy both.
 
J85909266 said:
There always has to be this guy, doesn't there?
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Wildmike has a special relationship with his M43. :eek: I imagine if I roughed it as long as he did with one as his main go-to tool, I might be a bit preferential too. No wait, I probably would have died of allergic attack my first summer in. I'd have to get the Windlass and spend the rest on anti-histamines. :(
 
Horn Dog said:
As for the TTKZ being a combat weapon.......only if you're Conan. :D
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You realize my "standard" for kukris weighs in at 57 ounces, right? LOL

And I swing it quite well, thank you very much. :D

I think the Busse will be light and spritely in comparison.

I also plan to get one -- for use as a weapon, right alongside my Vector Tomahawk :D


BTW, I love both companies for opposite reasons. HI is the epitome of handmade craftsmanship, and IMO, no one makes a kukri to compare with theirs. Their knives are also very nice, and their swords, etc. . .

Busse is the epitome of the ultra-modern manufacturing process, taking advantage of all the things that CNC controlled machines and heat treat methods have to offer. Both are at the top of their game, IMO.

And since they are in such different categories, they really don't compete with each other.
 
Cpl Punishment said:
You realize my "standard" for kukris weighs in at 57 ounces, right? LOL

And I swing it quite well, thank you very much. :D

I think the Busse will be light and spritely in comparison.

I also plan to get one -- for use as a weapon, right alongside my Vector Tomahawk :D


BTW, I love both companies for opposite reasons. HI is the epitome of handmade craftsmanship, and IMO, no one makes a kukri to compare with theirs. Their knives are also very nice, and their swords, etc. . .

Busse is the epitome of the ultra-modern manufacturing process, taking advantage of all the things that CNC controlled machines and heat treat methods have to offer. Both are at the top of their game, IMO.

And since they are in such different categories, they really don't compete with each other.
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That's pretty much how I see it too, CP. I knew I wasn't the only Hog into HI Khukuris. The KZ doesn't weigh 57 oz, but it ain't no Chitlangi or Serupati either. It's much heavier than the M43.
 
Horn Dog said:
You won't learn much. All the test team (that's what they called us who ponied up the big bucks at Blade) are sworn to secrecy for six months. We report all results and send all test pics to Jerry only. But I figured the fine folks at HI would want to know that a HI Khuk is pretty much the standard to judge by. After all, a hand made Khukuri from Nepal IS a Khukuri! I will be comparing comfort, handling, balance, ease of sharpening, edge holding, and of course chopping performance. I figure that using two other full tang khuks for comparison will help me on any suggestions I may make to Jerry.

Here is the pic Jerry released of the Test Team Killa Zilla. Yep, it's a khukuri.
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i was at Blade, and inquired early about this KZ... the Bussee people were their typical selves and didn't say "boo". they want test results, they should SEND samples to real khukri users or at least let us SEE the damn things if we went to the trouble of going to the Trough ;)

and yeah, they seem to have made a kopis that would be at home in 300. it's not entirely a khukri imho, but is prety.

which reminds me, i have a huge hunk of 5160 from a "western kami" that i need to put head to head with my Bonecutters (the true standard ;>)


Bladite
 
Bladite said:
they want test results, they should SEND samples to real khukri users or at least let us SEE the damn things if we went to the trouble of going to the Trough ;)
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Real khukri users aren't the types of folks that are likely to spend what a killa zilla costs. ;) :D

I'm obviously a huge fan of Busse knives, but all the secrecy and cloak and dagger stuff seems a little goofy to me. That said, those games have helped build the "mystique" of the brand, and an insanely loyal customer base willing to pay through the nose for their blades, so they're doing something right.


And I will admit, I got caught up in the excitement at BLADE - the trough experience, the mystery and teasing, is EXCITING. Even if it is silly and frustrating and just a bit juvenile.
 
I have a 5 lb Bhairab.

After taking a few swings with that behemoth, even a viking broadsword feels like a toy.
 
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