Ang Khola vs Bonecutter vs Ganga Ram

If splitting wood is the primary task for the knife you should maybe think about buying a small axe/hatchet for that.
But a khukuri is a very versile tool for camping and clearing paths.��
Good luck

AHHH! What no Kuhk!!!:eek: I have been actually looking at axes from Sweden made much like HI makes their knives. Hand forged etc. But a 30" CAK would be more fun!:D I dont have to carry it anywhere so not worried about the weight except it would need to be at least 2.5 lbs or so. Preferably about 5:thumbup:
BTW Thanks dirtbiker in advance! The CAK is definitely the heavier one and the fullers may actually help reduce the friction. I have a 15" AK but is way too small for splitting. Great all around knife tho! But then again the bone cutter and the Ganga Ram look like the balance point would be closer to the tip which i think would be better for splitting.
 
I can't give you a spine shot of the others but here is my Bonecutter next to a 1/4" thick chopper.
 
AHHH! What no Kuhk!!!:eek: I have been actually looking at axes from Sweden made much like HI makes their knives. Hand forged etc. But a 30" CAK would be more fun!:D I dont have to carry it anywhere so not worried about the weight except it would need to be at least 2.5 lbs or so. Preferably about 5:thumbup:
BTW Thanks dirtbiker in advance! The CAK is definitely the heavier one and the fullers may actually help reduce the friction. I have a 15" AK but is way too small for splitting. Great all around knife tho! But then again the bone cutter and the Ganga Ram look like the balance point would be closer to the tip which i think would be better for splitting.

Wow, I figured a 15" AK would make a great splitter. I guess I'll have to revisit my thinking process. I do know that my 18" AK would be most unforgiving with a misplaced strike. I suspect I'd be holding the piece up with another stick or tongs or something, I don't want any part of my anatomy anywhere near the strike zone of that knife.

Don't swing at any part you ever want to use again, that's for sure.
 
+1, boerboel84
When I see weights in the 32+ ozs., my mind goes "axe, axe, ax..."
 
Wow, I figured a 15" AK would make a great splitter. I guess I'll have to revisit my thinking process. I do know that my 18" AK would be most unforgiving with a misplaced strike. I suspect I'd be holding the piece up with another stick or tongs or something, I don't want any part of my anatomy anywhere near the strike zone of that knife.

Don't swing at any part you ever want to use again, that's for sure.

Yep! would like to keep my parts! Well you know i havent even tried splitting with it yet so dont change your thinking process yet. I just assumed it would be too light. I should give it a chance...I have some logs outside the front door now so Ill report back to ya soon. As far a batoning I would think it would work well but id would have to revisit the "what to do and not to section" before i go beating on it. Not sure how the hidden tang would fair? Im confident the blade would do well. I know this has been brought up before so wont get into it yet. will get back to ya hopefully tonight maybe with pics if I dont get too lazy!
 
OK as promised! I didn’t mean for this to be a chop…or should I say Split-off so take it for what it is. Special thanks Bawanna for enlightening me on the powers of this little beast!
Here are the victims: Three well dried and baked oak logs. I tried to pick ones without knots but the small one does has a knot. Split/photo time less than 20 mins. Oh well let’s see what happens.

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Important special note: Two years ago they were toasted in a forest fire that took everything I own, house, trees, knives, guns, kitchen, etc. etc. so they are well baked. It took two weeks before the fire burned down enough so I could come to what I called home. That was two years ago.

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Just thought this was worth mentioning because wood can get extremely hard when baked for two weeks. These are extraordinary conditions and I have practically destroyed some other knives I have collected since the fire. This same knife has chopped through six inches of baked western red cedar without harm.
I was a bit biased at first because I didn’t think this knife was heavy enough to split this oak wood but as you will see I grossly underestimated the performance of this little beast. First up is the medium one.

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First hit already cracked it! Bulls-eye!
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Second hit done deal!
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Rest was one hit processing.
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Next was the biggun!
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First hit. Another bullseye!
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Second hit another bull’s-eye and done deal.
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Again one hit processing for the rest.
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This one had the knot so decided to plank it around the knot and eventually got it broken up as well.
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Getting there.
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About twenty minutes later. There’s enough wood to keep me and my baby warm for the night if it were winter.
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I did notice a slight ding in the blade belly after this work but was easily restored.

The wrist snap at end of the stroke is vital in making this work with a small blade. That last bit of velocity is so important. Don’t forget F=MA . End resulting force and blade shape is what is splitting the wood. Mass of blade is fixed but acceleration is not. You have total control of acceleration!

Another mentionable note: I tried the same test with another popular production kukri and had some considerable damage and decided to abort the test because I spent too much money on it to destroy it. Note the bent belly.
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My overall thoughts on this short session with the AK is that this knife is capable of more than I had given it credit for. It mandates good technique to get these results. The profile of the blade with substantial meat behind the edge prevented it from deforming like some other flat ground harder edged more acute ground blades I have used as seen in the above photo. I dont claim to be an expert but I use knives EVERY day and know what works for me. Hope someone finds this useful.
 
When I first saw the test subjects I did not foresee a happy ending here. Figured you were just asking far too much of a chopper, even an AK.
Alas, once again I was totally wrong and it worked splendidly. Far better than I anticipated.
 
Your photos show one of the functional benefits of the blade design:

The fullers prevent the log from "grabbing" the sides of the blade on deep cuts. In a flat-ground blade, the deeper you cut the more of the blade gets grabbed (unless the log is nice to you and opens up, which tends not to happen until you are well into it) and the pressure and friction of the wood fights back. With this design the middle portion of the blade is not grabbed.

Even khukuris that don't have the deep fuller/hollow at the spine -- such as the bonecutter or ganga ram -- usually have forging fullers along the blade that prevent binding up in the wood.

Based on numerous postings that I've seen on this forum, I wasn't at all surprised that your 15" AK was up to the job. It looks like you didn't even have to baton.
 
Your photos show one of the functional benefits of the blade design:

The fullers prevent the log from "grabbing" the sides of the blade on deep cuts. In a flat-ground blade, the deeper you cut the more of the blade gets grabbed (unless the log is nice to you and opens up, which tends not to happen until you are well into it) and the pressure and friction of the wood fights back. With this design the middle portion of the blade is not grabbed.

Even khukuris that don't have the deep fuller/hollow at the spine -- such as the bonecutter or ganga ram -- usually have forging fullers along the blade that prevent binding up in the wood.

Based on numerous postings that I've seen on this forum, I wasn't at all surprised that your 15" AK was up to the job. It looks like you didn't even have to baton.
No Batonning. Once I burried it past the first fuller the log was done for! Never even had a chance to see the spine. I did have to hit the same cut each hit to get the job done. Now if this wood was greener I may have had to work a little harder but dont know. No more green wood around here so I cant test that. I do believe the polished surface helps reduce friction and aids in the splitting. I suppose the Ganga Ram and Bonecutter would perform similarly even without the deep fullers. They are beefy and convex just behind the edge so they should function similarly. They all have their advantages and I am still stumped on which one to buy! stumped...uh huh huh huh! ..sorry..Weight is definitely a factor here and the AK has that advantage. I would go with an 18 inch at least if this is all you wanted to do with the knife. However this was just a fun test and it is not why i bought a 15" AK.
Oh and Bawanna! You started this remember:D:thumbup: I would have otherwise not even attempted this! The other knife (not HI) i tried was flat ground yes it got "stuck" every time. but i knew it would because it has the same profile from edge to spline. I do think that 22" Ganga Ram would have made toothpicks out of them logs!!!
 
The simple solution is to just buy one of each and test them all to find what you prefer :)
 
Mark Twain said that an honest politician is one who votes his conscience, when there is no gain to be had on either side.

The AK, Bonecutter and Ganga Ram are all excellent, dedicated choppers. You might as well choose whichever one appeals to you, for whatever reason, without trying to figure out which is "best." However, Ang Kholas appear much more often here on the forum in DOTDs, and there will be a larger variety of lengths, weights, handle types and (lower cost) blems. So if there is no gain to be had on either side, go with whichever model appears first in your desired length and weight. Odds are, it will be an AK.
 
Another mentionable note: I tried the same test with another popular production kukri and had some considerable damage and decided to abort the test because I spent too much money on it to destroy it. Note the bent belly.
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Wow! too late! .:barf: That broke like a piece of glass! Im liking this AK just that much more now.
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This is not the AK by the way.
 
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