Another "Breeden's Razor's" coming soon - my "Truth" knife!

[fmajor007]

Hi Gang -

I thought i'd add another "my knife coming soon" thread.

Mr. Breeden has blessed me with a knife of my design - yahoo!!!! Thank you!!!! Thank you!!!! Thank you!!!!

So below is my drawing/concept:

Here is Mr. Breeden's cut out - lets call it the "rough draft":

OK, so basic dimensions/materials:

1) OAL - 11"
2) Blade Length - 6"
3) Blade Thickness 1/4"
4) Blade Width (at max.) ~2" (1 15/16")
5) Knife Material - 01 Tool steel (+ famous "Breeden's Razor's" Heat Treat)
6) Breeden's convex edge and semi-convex high-saber grind
7) Handle Length - 5" (including the pommel/hammer)
8) Handle Material - Dark green Micarta

Intended as/designed to be my hard-use field knife. That means, anything and everything i need to cut in any outdoor situation. I don't do the "chopping" thing, but i am an avid baton user. Also, it fills my need for a knife capable of being driven into anything i may need to get into - from gathering resin-wood to puncturing a bee hive.

I know the winds of contemporary design favor thinner stock, lighter, "slicier" knives, but while on active duty (when Reagan was President) i learned the role Murphy's Law has on outdoor situations (i was definitely *not* in a "support" MOS) . When "things" go bad - they too often go *tragically* bad. So, this design is to preempt these bad situations and ensure i have a "fail-safe" tool at hand.

As a means of comparison, think ESEE-5 PLUS.

More pics to follow!

frank

 

[bigcountry1315]

Frank great design you have there!I could see that with an 8 inch blade but that is just me.I knew there was others on here that served when we had a real Commander in Chief!!!!


Semper Fi

 

[fmajor007]

I thought i'd add a comment here and save a space for future pics.

Bryan was uniquely valuable in helping tweek this design by his insightful questions, thoughtful responses and profound understanding of how a knife works (given an outdoors knife context) and what it takes to accomplish that task with excellence.

That his craftsmanship skills are capable to accomplish a knife of this caliber is without question - as his is reknown for delivering the freaky-ist sharp knives.

(space reserved for future pics/video)

 

[fmajor007]

Frank great design you have there!I could see that with an 8 inch blade but that is just me.I knew there was others on here that served when we had a real Commander in Chief!!!!


Semper Fi

True that.

Hooo Ahhh - AIRBORNE!!!

(I was Army and my Dad was a jarhead - Hollywood actually....) Semper Fi!

 

[Mistwalker]

I like your thinking in the design a lot. It will come razor sharp, I don't think Bryan knows any other way to do it. However if it is 1/4" stock I think the grind should go higher for a thinner cross section at the edge for max effectiveness in an "all around" role, but that's just my personal opinion.

 

[TheGame]

Great looking blade. I, too, can see a longer version of this being a good chopper. :thumbup:

 

[sicily02]

Hi all,

Great looking design, Frank. I think you have a winner there with it.
I have been handeling that blank off and on and I bet I have 2 plus hours just holding and going from one knife postion to the next lol.right now as i write I am watching Dual Survival Yep i am holding your knife to lol

going from left hand to right hand. This is a pretty comfy feeling in the hand knife so far. I can hardly wait to
get it done.


Thanks for the kind words all. I have gone bright red.

Bryan

 

[coaldigger]

Thats a blade pattern that I really like ! The Blade profile is almost like my "Lobo" by JK Handmade knives -

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[jw2n]

In profile it looks very similar to a choilless Busse ASH.

 

[fmajor007]

I like your thinking in the design a lot. It will come razor sharp, I don't think Bryan knows any other way to do it. However if it is 1/4" stock I think the grind should go higher for a thinner cross section at the edge for max effectiveness in an "all around" role, but that's just my personal opinion.

Thanks Mist - i was thinking the same thing. In my initial drawings, the grind going a smidge higher - maybe 1/3 way down from the spine (i sorta like it there). Bryan noticed as well and mentioned maybe it being lower (iirc......). It's pencil so can be erased! I'm a big fan of the Sabre grind and i trust Bryan to make the grind where it needs to be - it's in his very capable hands!

Great looking blade. I, too, can see a longer version of this being a good chopper. :thumbup:

Thanks TG!!! I've maybe 20 iterations of blade/handle design plus mock-ups of my fav's. I suspect if it were longer it could serve well as a chopper - *especially* since it's being crafted by Bryan!!! The man really knows his knives and especially so with the big 'ol choppers!!!

 

[fmajor007]

Thats a blade pattern that I really like ! The Blade profile is almost like my "Lobo" by JK Handmade knives -

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Thanks CG!!! I've seen this blade before, but didn't look to it at all when i was drawing mine. My designs started a good bit narrower and grew wider as i concentrated strictly on what i wanted and what i believe will work for my approach. That JK is a really nice looking knife!!!

In profile it looks very similar to a choilless Busse ASH.

I've seen pics of these knives before and they're probably very well made, but they're not my cup 'o tea. On the ASH, the downward curve of the spine, where the spine actually begins to lead to the tip, starts much closer to the handle with a more agressive, continuous curve line. I prefer a less aggressive initial curve (nearly straight) from the handle leading to a much more aggressive curve to the tip.

 

[fmajor007]

Hi all,

Great looking design, Frank. I think you have a winner there with it.

Bryan, you know how many drawings, re-drawings, complete design scraps and everything you've helped me through. I'd say *we* have a winner!!!! Thanks all the same!!!

I have been handeling that blank off and on and I bet I have 2 plus hours just holding and going from one knife postion to the next lol.right now as i write I am watching Dual Survival Yep i am holding your knife to lol

going from left hand to right hand. This is a pretty comfy feeling in the hand knife so far. I can hardly wait to
get it done.

Ohhhh you are sooooo bad making the anticipation all the worse!!! Sitting there, holding my knife, watching TV together. ARRGGHHHH!!!! lol - just kidding 'round bud!

Since you went through it with me over the last 5 months you know how i've changed things around. I gotta say though the handle was hardest. It seems soooo different from all the "barrel-shaped" handles i had a hard time *not* just drawing one of that style. However, after i spaced the notches and curves to fit my paws (as well as including the "bird-beak" for the rare/occasional chopping), it seemed the most comfy of all my mock-ups.

Thanks for the kind words all. I have gone bright red.

Bryan

Merely kind words? Hardly.

Its the TRUTH!!!!

 

[grunt soldier]

it looks good for sure. can't wait to see the finished pics.

Bryan you look like you area losing weight sir? wouldn't surprise me since I haven't seen one your great trail lunch pictures in a while

 

[Mistwalker]

Thanks Mist - i was thinking the same thing. In my initial drawings, the grind going a smidge higher - maybe 1/3 way down from the spine (i sorta like it there). Bryan noticed as well and mentioned maybe it being lower (iirc......). It's pencil so can be erased! I'm a big fan of the Sabre grind and i trust Bryan to make the grind where it needs to be - it's in his very capable hands!

Yeah, I've spent a lot of time over the years working with and studying 1/4" blades and personally I like them a lot for various reasons and applications. In my experiences 1/4" with a lower saber grind (re-supposing good steel and H.T.) has a LOT of lateral strength but the steep grind impedes the blade's penetration in chopping. 1/4" with a full flat grind chops very well, especially with a weight forward design, but looses a lot of it's lateral strength. The best ways I've seen to get a decent mix of the two are high grinds with the higher the better slicing but less lateral strength, or well done hollow grinds that have an edge thin enough to penetrate well but still leave ample spine for lateral strength.

 

[fmajor007]

OK, the man is getting really close to finishing my Truth knife. He has the handle all glued up, blade ground and is getting set to make final handle contours and edge-work.

Here's a video he sent me:

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She's a big girl with lotsa latitude (wide blade!!!), but plenty of spine to back it all up!

thanks for looking!

frank

 

[pitdog]

Seeing that knife in the video makes you realise just what a beast that thing is........You gotta love Bryan's work eh !!!

 

[fmajor007]

YAHOO!!!!! my new Breeden knife has arrived!!!

Here are the initial pics (can't do any testing - mother-in-law is visiting so no serious playtime)

Here's a shot of the pommel:

Here's a pic of the spine:

another for size/context:

A final shot for comparison with my CS Trailmaster:

OK, i'll stop here and hopefully be able to post pics of some testing.

Thanks Mr. Breeden!!!!! AWESOME KNIFE!!!!!!!! I've found my "grail" knife and new Field Knife - Trailmaster is demoted to the saving drawer for my daughter or son.

 

[WILLIAM.M]

Looking forward to your review

Great looking knife!!!

 

[grunt soldier]

looks great man. I am also looking forward to your review.

 

[Preacher Man]

That is one sweet looking knife you got there. Excellent design, Frank. That and Bryan's workmanship, you have one outstanding knife. Looking forward to your review.