Another "Design Help" thread

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deker

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You all were so full of ideas earlier today that I couldn't resist posting this one for ideas.

So, here's what happens when I don't plan and just start forging... This was going to be my first shot at my recycled bowie, but as I forged it got too thin. It's about 8-9" of blade (yes, I know the ricasso is WAAAY too long. It's easier to remove than add...), but after all of the clean up grinding it'll be just about 1/8" thick at the spine.

Butch and I have been kicking around ideas for this one, but I'm having trouble seeing what it wants to be when it grows up. We may even run a Butch & Deker collaboration if we can figure something out. ;) This one is 408 layers of banding strap, bandsaw blade, old handsaw blade (Disston No. 7. Analysed as 1086), cable, railroad track spring, and old files in a twist pattern.

I've got another small piece of this billet left that could make a nice companion piece for this one, but I'm not going to do anything with it until I have a plan this time. :)

What would you do with it?

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Here's a bit of a closeup of the pattern. It's just a very light etch right now to give us an idea of what was there.

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My personal opinion: Think Scagel :) Tang may need to be bent back up a bit. A lot of Scagel's blades, the spine and top of tang were continous.
 
What would I do? I'd throw it away and start crying- but that's just me! Just kidding deker!

Seriously, I'd drop the tip a smidge, throw a guard on it and maybe a stacked leather and some stag crown on the end...I'm seeing Scagel-esque when I look at the rough shape. Call me crazy, but that's what struck me intitially. Good luck! -Matt-
 
Two posts a minute apart, by different people, saying the same thing. See where this is going? :D -Matt-
 
Time to start looking at Scagels it would seem. :) The thing that worries me is how thin it is. Did Scagel do really thin blades? Aside from that I definitely see the resemblance in the outline from the pictures I've found so far, but none of them show an angle down along the spine for me to gauge thickness...

Thanks guys!

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Nah, they weren't quite that thin at that length. 3/16-1/4" towards the handle I'd say, ones I've seen, IIRC. Sorry, I missed that earlier, deker. Sure has the right profile, though.
 
fitzo said:
Nah, they weren't quite that thin at that length. 3/16-1/4" towards the handle I'd say, ones I've seen, IIRC. Sorry, I missed that earlier, deker. Sure has the right profile, though.
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Maybe a "thinline Scagel style" :o Butch suggested maybe something persian-ish, but I haven't been able to picture it yet...

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deker said:
This one is 408 layers of banding strap, bandsaw blade, old handsaw blade (Disston No. 7. Analysed as 1086), cable, railroad track spring, and old files in a twist pattern. -d
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Boy I guess you weren't kidding when you said "Recycled Bowie", I'm sure whatever you decide to do it will be excellent deker ! Yeah, you've got everything but the kitchen sink in that one ;) Lookin good :thumbup:
 
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