Another Katrina Aftermath thread.

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Bill Marsh

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I do not know David Milican, who wrote the following, but I would like to thank him for bringing these facts to our attention. Read and remember!

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"To my friends and family:

What I have seen since Katrina:

The poor and the wealthy hurt by the storm.

Black, white, Hispanic, Oriental and Indian all hurt by the storm.

Christian people giving, giving, giving.

Churches going all out to minister in Jesus' name.

Neighbors going door to door helping one another.

Thugs and hoodlums going door to door looking for someone vulnerable.

Ice and water being fought over as police tried to keep the peace.

People coming up from New Orleans & taking over empty houses because shelters are full.

Out of town volunteers coming with food and staying for a week now and still serving it.

The Churches all over this part of the country doing what Christians do in a crisis.

Fema doing a wonderful job in getting help to us.

The Red Cross doing a great job in the shelters.

The Salvation Army doing a great job in the community.

Four Hundred crewman from everywhere bringing back the power to our homes, churches and businesses.

Lines at service stations a block to a mile long.

National Guardsman patrolling the streets of McComb along with Kentucky policemen protecting us from the hoodlums and thugs of McComb, Pike County and New Orleans (the most dangerous city in the world before Katrina.)

Drug dealers working outside shelters.

Doctors, nurses and other hospital personnel working tirelessly, even sleeping in the hospital to do the job God called them to do.

WHAT I HAVE NOT SEEN:

The ACLU setting up a feeding line.

People for the American Way helping in the shelters.

The NAACP doing any work whatsoever.

The American Atheist organization serving meals in the shelters.

Jesse Jackson directing traffic at the gas stations.

I could go on but you get my message. Its the Christian people with love and compassion who do the work.

The gripers in Congress should come on down and get in line to pass the water and the ice. Are you listening Hillary, Chuck, Teddy and all the sorry loafers we call senators and congressmen. They don't have a clue as to what this life is all about here on the Gulf Coast.

Boy I feel better now.

David A. Millican"

 
cliff355 said:
The real disaster of Katrina was that society broke down.
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YES! I knew people who were in the Convention Center. People who told me of the rapes and other attacks inside there. People I knew who decided to get out of there, towing their hastily packed wheeled luggage behind them and began walking to Baton Rouge, 90 miles away. They realized that they were better off outside. They were rescued as they walked.

They told me of the suicides of people, even law enforcement personel, who could not cope, who had lost everything, their posessions, their homes, their friends, their relatives, their jobs --- people who felt that they had nothing left to live for.
 
Inspirational, but depressing. But inspirational.

It may be totally egotistical, but I think that if there were enough people like us in an emergency, completely prepared or not, the veneer of civilization/fabric of society would stand a lot better chance of surviving.

Thanks for the articles, guys.
 
Aardvark said:
...but I think that if there were enough people like us in an emergency, completely prepared or not, the veneer of civilization/fabric of society would stand a lot better chance of surviving.
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Can I come to your house for a handout? :) :rolleyes: ;)

Good articles. Self reliance is something not seen in our urbanized, and specialized society. We call a plumber to do our plumbing because we know nothing about how it works. Or we don't care how it works, nor have the time to learn how to. We throw money at it and get it fixed.

It's sort of like the "my dad" thread. The previous generations had to learned how to do a little of everything. Maybe it was just how people did things back then, maybe it was expected of men. Dunno. It's something to ponder though.

I wonder if electricity were to suddenly stop for say two weeks how many people would be able to cope? I'd probably suffer greatly and go looking for handouts. :)
 
We still live in America.




I'm glad so many help. It is also good to know Christian is not a bad word. Lots of the mainstream religions have been giving.


munk
 
Walk through a Home Depot and you'll see lots of people who can fix their own plumbing.

New Orleans was a classic case of a city that was not ready ... for anything. But small towns in Mississippi were. Not surprising. And all those people who did show up from far away were ready, too.

There's also nothing wrong with throwing money at a problem, if it's your own money that you earned doing something someone else didn't have time to learn.

Meanwhile, for all of those who mugged on-camera, whining and begging, a big old Bronx cheer!
 
Good sentiment mostly, however I don't believe this tragedy should be used to push a religiously or politically polarizing agenda. Lots of people helped. Many of them are not doing it in the name of Jesus. And many of them don't belong to the GOP. This should be about human compassion, not whose set of beliefs, political or religious, are better.

Nam
 
I like to give credit where credit is due. The Churches are doing a large share and deserve thanks and recognition. I 'ouched' only a little with the start of this thread- the aspertions to the various Leftist orgs. We are on the same page here, not wanting to push agendas but wanting to say thanks.



munk
 
Good post! Printed off a copy.

Nam - I agree that this should not be a reason to push any set religion. I am Roman Catholic but believe in each persons rights in interpreting(sp?) their beliefs. At the same time though the American Atheist Organization complaining because the President asked for people to pray for those caught up in this disaster while they have done nothing angers me. You want to complain - fine, but you damn well better be in the mix doing something yourself - not sitting off on the sidelines.

Too many Americans on welfare have become reliant on others doing things for them. I see it daily as a nurse in a walk-in clinic. People on disability with no discernible disability to my eye. It is hard for me to have compassion at these times as I have 4th stage Melanoma and only 15% use of my left arm & hand. It would take no effort for me to get disability but I want better for my life and I have learned how to work around my handicap.

Sadly I have become jaded and have lost a lot of faith in the human race. The only good thing coming from that is when I do find a truly good person they shine that much more.
 
I just heard a story on the radio that a Texan was evacuating through heavy traffic, saw she was running out of gas, turned around and went home.

Life is complicated. Planning ahead helps. A little courtesy goes a long way.

I'd like to propose that the President replace FEMA with the Cantina. We do planning right.
 
Esav Benyamin said:
New Orleans was a classic case of a city that was not ready ... for anything.
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As far as not being ready, it was a classic case of not believing the devastation would be as great as it was. NO floods often, the poorer places are in the lower areas. The rich live higher up, but even they have cypress floors and cabinets because they expect flooding and cypress resists water.

I only have a small familiarity with New Orleans. Didn't like it. Nasty, hot, humid, moldy place. Been there a few times. Dangerous place. I stayed in a top quality hotel in supposedly a good area, however the hotel staff made it very clear that walking anywhere in NO, even outside the hotel was dangerous. You should only go so far as the front of the hotel to get a taxi.

My very wealthy ex-brother-in-law who lived in NO and traveled the world told me that the only place he carried a gun was in NO.

When my sister asked him what he was doing to protect himself and his property, he said, "I am closing my shutters."

There is some kind of grim justice in this. (rest of post about ex-brother-in-law deleted)
 
Did not mean to get into promoting Christians, though I am one. I am sure that there were other religious groups helping as well. I guess that the Christians are the most populous, but there are good people in all religions and I am sure that many of these were helping as well.

I am just tired of gripers who are not doing anything to help.

I am also tired of people who think they have rights without responsibilities.

And I think that Welfare has been the most destructive thing to happen to people of any race since slavery. Destructive to the family, to the individual and to the human spirit. We all know the system needs a complete revamp.
 
Christians get a bad rap, but overall I think more good than bad has been done by them overall.

Speaking of people doing stuff did you all know that Al Gore paid for 2 commercial passenger jets to ferry sick people and take them to be treated in TN??

It's not really being reported by the media much because he refused to speak to the press about it.

Apparently the doctor that saved his son that got hit by a car back in the 90's? called, and was trapped in a hospital with the water rising. Gore cleared the red tape and chartered 2 commercial jets and I think he got a TN doctor he knew and a relative to treat them.

I believe Bill Frist, also went down there.
 
namaarie said:
Good sentiment mostly, however I don't believe this tragedy should be used to push a religiously or politically polarizing agenda. Lots of people helped. Many of them are not doing it in the name of Jesus. And many of them don't belong to the GOP. This should be about human compassion, not whose set of beliefs, political or religious, are better.

Nam
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If you go to Snopes.com you will find the majority of emails circulating about the hurricane seem to be blame the victim type stuff, or somehow dissing liberals.

With such a colossal failure of government at all levels to adequately respond to the disaster, I really feel that a lot of these emails are being disseminated by interest groups to try to blunt criticisim of government officials.
 
Speaking of people doing stuff did you all know that Al Gore paid for 2 commercial passenger jets to ferry sick people and take them to be treated in TN??
>>>>>>>> Hollow

I am glad to hear that, though of course he'll need to charter a lot more than two to get the Democratic Primary Nomination out of Hillary's hands in 08.

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One of the touching 'human interest' segments I saw on Fox had a gal going to her Rabbi to ask for help in locating a Katrina evacuatee find a missing child.


munk
 
Take any idea to an extreme, and you get extremism.
I think that self reliance is good.
I won't wait for a policeman to come if my home is broken into.

But - I got a doctor for eye surgery. I can't imagine doing cataract surgery on myself.

How about war? Should we all fend for ourselves if we are invaded by extremist and fanatical .....

Self reliance is good, but so is helping your neighbor, and treating him/her with dignity. I am not going to rely on myself for plumbing. It is not one of my skills. Woodworking - I'll do if I have time. If not, I get a carpenter.

This thread is going off into politics, but....
I rely on the Kamis to make kukuris.
Few of us can do it ourselves.
 
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