Another newbie with a question

Here is the Cigar Box Classic version mentioned earlier with the line thingies on the ends. (pinched bolsters)



Codger
 
While awaiting another opinion, as you suggested...

First knife is a Schrade with pinched bolsters (pinched at the top or tip).
Second knife is a Buck with standard bolsters.
Third knife is a Schrade with pinched bolsters and threaded/scored lines in the bolster.

Just for fun.

Bill

P.S.
Sorry 'bout the photos...I'm gonna get a better camera.
 
The hint for tonite is what are threaded bolsters and what are pinched? To know this answers much. LT
 
I have no freaking clue what a pinched verses threaded bolster is..
I am awaiting my lesson :eek:
 
Just look, LAWRENCE of Knifearabia. Just to give an answer often leads to a quest to easily achieved. Hint if you were going to do this type of detailing what would be the reason for it, purely for asthetics ( spelling ? ) ( or should it serve a purpose and in either case how would you produce it.) When are both variations mostly used. How were the techiques used to produce it. But most of all what are they. Obviously both are variations on a blank ( plain) bolster. When would ( time frame ) they be employed and why. LT

QUOTE

Just because you are here dosen't mean you are necessary or important. It only means you are still here and that is all that is important.
 
Bolsters, Caps, Tips...
Terminology: we sometimes confuse ourselves. (Me at least)
Bolster: Usually a metallic end piece that covers the rivet on the end where the blade or blades swivel. The cap is the similar piece on the opposite end of the knife. (also sometimes called a bolster). A tip is a small end piece that does not cover the rivet.
A 833UH has a Bolster and a cap. A 897UH has 2 Bolsters A 6OT has a Bolster and no cap.
Some bolsters are clipped on over the swivel rivet. Some are attached to the liner with screws(tacticals) where others have the rivet through the bolster.
Styles of Bolster/Caps.. See the picture. (still can't find a "pinched" reference relating to bolsters/caps.. )
Reason for using a bolster besides aesthetics would be to protect and strengthen the swivel rivet and protect the ends of the handle material. Newer styles do not require Bolsters but use them simply to dress the knife.
Production: Usually mass produced (Stamped)
Im still looking.
TTYL
Larry
bolsters.jpg
 
Nice piece of schoolin', Irv...er um Larry!

Thanks for the illustration...

Glenn
 
If any of you have Gerald Witcher's "Counterfeiting Antique Cutlery"...he has several pictures about this subject on pages 44-49.

Just trying to add something constructive for once. :rolleyes: :o

Bill
 
Bill,

If you have a copy please post a picture to help us out for crying out loud.
:rolleyes:
Need all the help we can get...

TTYL
Larry
P.S. I got some great little knives unexpectedly in the mail yesterday needing to have a picture posted in Glenn's thread but Im spending so much time chasing bolsters (and chasing R/E customers) I havent had time to take a decent picture.
 
I don't have a flatbed scanner, so this is sorta "On the Fly"...sorry guys, I hope you can see the bolsters on the right, and a brief discription on the left.

Bill

P. S.
The "WHITE light" is just me passing through a hole in space and time...oh, crap...I forgot my tin hat! Man...I don't think I'm in Kansas anymore.
 
Ball Stairs (bolsters): Steps leading to a large formal gathering for social dancing.

Schrade Ball: A formal gathering where Schrade collectors go hoping to dance with the maidens of Ellenville.

Luis
 
Yes, the photo is on page 47 of this book...

http://www.nationalknife.org/default.cfm

That's about what I'm good for today...a one-handed photo, and a redirect to the NKCA site. Sheeesh! :rolleyes:

bill

P. S.
Thumbnail below...you might be able to find this at KnifeWorld or elsewhere, as well.
 
El Lob; Why would you be studying a book on counterFITTing? Is there something sinister afoot????

Paul
 
Pinching bolsters ( this is in reference to knives not females ) was originally done to help attach the bolster to the knife. However this became secondary to the decorative aspect when various changes took place as the art of making knives, evolved. Threading which originally was a simpler form of pinching also became a mainly decorative aspect. Some knives employ a combination of both. I have attached pictures of 5 knives the large Schrade Walden Barlow is threaded and has the name Schrade on it both of these features on this knife are decorative. The 2 ( Schrade cut ) Congress pattern knives have pinched bolsters these were helpful on these knives for crimping to the knife. The 2 Schrade Cut jacknives employ several aspects of this study. The jigged bone model has a pinched bolster while the wood handled knife ( foerunner of the 2-OT ) has an unusual pinched and threaded ( with square design ). This bolster I feel is decorative since the pinching is light and then has the square threading.

Pinching remains a mark of fancier ( a bit higher end usually ) knives however is mainly for decorative enhancment. Threading on the other hand is often found on very inexpensive knives it was something that could be done to pretty up a knife at a very small cost.

Watching bolsters being made is rather interesting. The metal which comes looking like an oxidised solid square piece of very expensive steel. It kind of looks like a 8X8 only instead of wood it is steel and weighs about a zillion pounds. So then you just slice a piece off it ( like you used to do off a loaf of government cheese when they used to give it away. ) What ever happened to that cheese I liked it of course when you ate it you had to chase it with a glass of milk of magnesia. Anyway now that you have your slice you go to this machine which when powered up could probably squash, compress, bend fold and mutilate a planet if you could make it fit in the works. Press a button and poof like magic out come this threaded bent perfect sized bolster. polish it up viola, and well there you go. LT
 
pAUL,

I am a bit pinched for $$... so I may attempt to bolster my finances in well, unconventional means. It seemed like a good book at the time...which is why I introduced it into this thread. I know counterfitting is counterproductive, but it is interesting reading, for sure. Nothing nefar, er, nefair, er, bad ,going on...but I would like to borrow your clothes dryer and a couple hundred poker chips, if possible.

Closer to topic...Thank you as always, LT, for the lesson and the pictures...:thumbup:

This one hurt a lot less than the groveling one. :D

Bill (Heading off to bolster {that's two} himself with Drown Royal)
 
I knew if we fumbled along long enough the Schrademiester would come to the rescue.
LT, Thanks for letting us know the real story. Wish we all could have gone to the plant and seen it in operation.
I did some metal extrustion with high pressure presses in shop in HS. Scarey machines. Thankfully they were slow and we were able to get our fingers out of the way most of the time.
Bill, thanks for the picture the effort was worth it.

TTYL
Larry
 
Thanks Larry.
I was just trying to spark some reparte, and a little folding knife discussion. Hope it was seen that way by everyone.

Bill
 
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