Another Norseman on the way

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No; I would not say I'm trolling. If someone likes particular knife any buy it I see no problem. If he likes it so much he's willing to spend $1000 or more it's OK by me.
But something else is bothering me.
There is a common misconception and most people just believe it without thinking.
These days it's not so expensive or hard to make a good quality knife. Pick decent steel and give him good heat threat. Add ceramic ball bearings for smooth action and pick ''exotic'' material for scales-make them look nice with no rough edges and you are in the ball park. Uh; forgot to mention engravings. People think ceramic balls and titanium (or whatever) scales are still space technology and something exclusive. Then you just need to add a story how much work and sacrifice was put in those parts and people will believe without thinking. You have a very nice looking and quality knife which is also fairly overpriced from the technical standpoint. I'm in this business for 30 years and I know something about material costs and production costs.
At the end it's all OK. They make a product and they put a price on it and they put it on the shelves. If people are interested they will buy. That's how market works.
But don't give me any bullshit stories about ''exclusive'' materials and operations they need to do.

From those Norsmen photos I see nothing special from technical standpoint to justify the price.
By the way; I also see absolutely no technical reason this Medford knife should cost $3000 or whatever. I only see greed in this price. But if people buy then why not.
 
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BTTLBRN said:
ut the further attempts to troll are odd; why post at all?
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Why post?
I don't know. To kill the time or nothing better to do.
Check 'general knife section'.... all those threads... knife on rock, knife and christmass, knife on my cat, knife in wood, knife and cofee, knife on whatever....
What's the point?
A lot of folks out there without anything better to do.
Hmmmm, Is finding a point pointless?
 
TheOne45 said:
No; I would not say I'm trolling. If someone likes particular knife any buy it I see no problem. If he likes it so much he's willing to spend $1000 or more it's OK by me.
But something else is bothering me.
There is a common misconception and most people just believe it without thinking.
These days it's not so expensive or hard to make a good quality knife. Pick decent steel and give him good heat threat. Add ceramic ball bearings for smooth action and pick ''exotic'' material for scales-make them look nice with no rough edges and you are in the ball park. Uh; forgot to mention engravings. People think ceramic balls and titanium (or whatever) scales are still space technology and something exclusive. Then you just need to add a story how much work and sacrifice was put in those parts and people will believe without thinking. You have a very nice looking and quality knife which is also fairly overpriced from the technical standpoint. I'm in this business for 30 years and I know something about material costs and production costs.
At the end it's all OK. They make a product and they put a price on it and they put it on the shelves. If people are interested they will buy. That's how market works.
But don't give me any bullshit stories about ''exclusive'' materials and operations they need to do.

From those Norsmen photos I see nothing special from technical standpoint to justify the price.
By the way; I also see absolutely no technical reason this Medford knife should cost $3000 or whatever. I only see greed in this price. But if people buy then why not.
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I look forward to seeing your product!

Your post is all about self promotion afterall.

$3000 Medford? The one I am planning is $1800. Maybe, I'm not ambitious enough. Or your figure is a bit off.

I hope you don't exaggerate your product.

I only buy American.

However, A Norseman would be on my list, if I decided to go international. As would a Rockstead and a Shirogorov. In that order, actually.

However, first a Praetorian T, then a RHK Half-Track and finally a CRK...secret option....
 
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And a Rask for good measure...
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To each his own. To me they're freakish looking therefore not for me. Same with most of the high $$ Ti knives that have embellishments of various descriptions. But choices are a good thing and money is only good to buy things with so carry on, you're helping the best economy ever.
 
TheOne45 said:
No; I would not say I'm trolling. If someone likes particular knife any buy it I see no problem. If he likes it so much he's willing to spend $1000 or more it's OK by me.
But something else is bothering me.
There is a common misconception and most people just believe it without thinking.
These days it's not so expensive or hard to make a good quality knife. Pick decent steel and give him good heat threat. Add ceramic ball bearings for smooth action and pick ''exotic'' material for scales-make them look nice with no rough edges and you are in the ball park. Uh; forgot to mention engravings. People think ceramic balls and titanium (or whatever) scales are still space technology and something exclusive. Then you just need to add a story how much work and sacrifice was put in those parts and people will believe without thinking. You have a very nice looking and quality knife which is also fairly overpriced from the technical standpoint. I'm in this business for 30 years and I know something about material costs and production costs.
At the end it's all OK. They make a product and they put a price on it and they put it on the shelves. If people are interested they will buy. That's how market works.
But don't give me any bullshit stories about ''exclusive'' materials and operations they need to do.

From those Norsmen photos I see nothing special from technical standpoint to justify the price.
By the way; I also see absolutely no technical reason this Medford knife should cost $3000 or whatever. I only see greed in this price. But if people buy then why not.
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Wow! Thanks for the wonderful insight of 30 years of experience! I had no idea these guys pooped out titanium folders with such little effort!😂
 
I've found that when I am in a hole it is best to keep digging, sooner or later I'll end up in China!
 
To each their own, I sold my Norseman (kinda regret it, may buy another some day), and own a Rask (love it). This is one knife/maker where you do have to have it in hand to appreciate the work that went into it. I've yet to see another maker with this absolutely OCD-level attention to detail. On the Rask for example, the internal milling pattern (which isn't really visible unless really looking) on the scales actually matches the external milling pattern, that's so unnecessary and pointless but beautiful IMO. There's engraving all over the internal parts of this knife that never see the light of day. There are dozens of little details like that on these knives that certainly have no functional purpose, but add to the cost, and for many fellow OCD folks like myself, the value. These knives are also the drop-shuttiest knives I've ever experienced, whether you want that or not, these are absolute guillotines, nothing else comes close. The Norseman grind is quite useful for plenty of specific applications, albeit a weird grind to many. Anyway, just my two cents!
 
Docscoot said:
To each their own, I sold my Norseman (kinda regret it, may buy another some day), and own a Rask (love it). This is one knife/maker where you do have to have it in hand to appreciate the work that went into it. I've yet to see another maker with this absolutely OCD-level attention to detail. On the Rask for example, the internal milling pattern (which isn't really visible unless really looking) on the scales actually matches the external milling pattern, that's so unnecessary and pointless but beautiful IMO. There's engraving all over the internal parts of this knife that never see the light of day. There are dozens of little details like that on these knives that certainly have no functional purpose, but add to the cost, and for many fellow OCD folks like myself, the value. These knives are also the drop-shuttiest knives I've ever experienced, whether you want that or not, these are absolute guillotines, nothing else comes close. The Norseman grind is quite useful for plenty of specific applications, albeit a weird grind to many. Anyway, just my two cents!
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I agree 100% with your sentiment. The only reason I sold mine was because I had some debts that needed settling. You really need to get a Grimsmo in-hand to appreciate the level of workmanship that went into it. Also, their customer service is next level. Makes me proud to be Canadian!
 
el gigantor said:
I agree 100% with your sentiment. The only reason I sold mine was because I had some debts that needed settling. You really need to get a Grimsmo in-hand to appreciate the level of workmanship that went into it. Also, their customer service is next level. Makes me proud to be Canadian!
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Eh who am I kidding, I'll be buying another at some point I'm pretty sure :) Really like the looks of that lightning anodized one earlier in the post, very nice!! I was in a similar boat, overspent that month and needed to recoup and unfortunately the Norseman ended up on the chopping block. Oops!
 
TheOne45 said:
Looks like you have experiences how to mill titanium.
Would you share your knowledge?
I might learn something.
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Don’t know what ya looking at bud, haven’t shared anything on milling out titanium. But I will educate you on worth.

What an item is WORTH spending on money on for you is solely your opinion and preference. Both of which have nothing in determining a product’s actual WORTH. That only determines whether or not you will purchase the item.

The cost of all labor, materials and overhead only determines what the minimum cost (WORTH) a product is. It also does not determine the actual price (WORTH) of the product.

Now this is the important part so take notes. The price (WORTH) is determined by the market! There are 2 forces determining the price (WORTH) of a product. First there is demand, which is how many people want the product and how much they will be willing to pay for it. Second is supply, if the supply is low than the price will go up and vice versa.

Now, with specifically speaking about the norseman, last year or even earlier this year they were going for retail around $7-800 from Grimsmo. But because of low supply and high demand they were selling $12-1500 on the secondary market. Whether they raised their retail price to match the demand or because of increased costs only they know. And if the demand starts to drop and supply increases then they will have to respond and drop the price.

So the lesson here bud is your opinion of the WORTH of the Norseman is solely yours but the market has determined that they are in fact WORTH the price because people with differing opinions from yours are buying them. Hopefully you now know that your opinion and “30 years of experience” has absolutely nothing in determining what anything is actually WORTH!

Let me know if you need any further clarification.
 
This thread should have remained closed and now that's what it will be.

Also, we could do with a little less arrogance and making it personal on both sides of the matter. Some of you have been warned about this in the past...and it's getting a bit tiresome.

Let's move on.
 
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