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Another sheath finished

Discussion in 'Sheaths & Such' started by duramax, Jul 2, 2018.

  1. duramax

    duramax KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Nov 29, 2012
    Hello All,

    Well just finished this one up today. It’s for a Scrap Yard urban regulator .33 thick knife.
    Here’s some pics
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    This one is hand stitched with tiger thread, leather is WC bridle ( thick )
     
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  2. leatherman

    leatherman leathermoderator Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Nov 30, 2001
    Looking good man! The one thing that always gets my design sense up in a roar is thick knives. When I started doing the wedge shape it all came together. You have that sense already, that is a good thing.
    Oh, wait till you see the beast of a custom knife I am working on at the moment, that thing just wants to eat my bench in one bite!
     
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  3. duramax

    duramax KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Nov 29, 2012
    Thank you :)

    Finding the “wedge” shape as you call it took some real thinking lol. Drove me nuts !! I wanted a more tapered look front and back. Which on thinner knives was possible, but thick knives - ugh lol

    Can’t wait to see what your crafting next :) Your Busse FMV8 dagger sheath really came out awesome ! :)
     
  4. Gary W. Graley

    Gary W. Graley “Imagination is more important than knowledge" Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Mar 2, 1999
    That's a rugged sheath for sure!

    Duane knows thick knives, it's been some time since I made a fixed blade sheath for a knife with a guard like that and when I made them I also would make the opening of the sheath large like you did for two reasons, ease of getting the knife back into the sheath and also it doesn't push the belt loop backwards at the same time. As to the wedges, I would take the leather welts to my sander and sanded/blended them down further back to make it a more gradual transition.

    My take on stitching, I wouldn't do two rows, contact cemented downe and solid stitch will be plenty.

    I might have made the sheath not quite as thick, it looks like you doubled up on the back and front panels ? Possibly for heavy duty protection for the user? If the leather used is heavy enough, one layer should be fine.

    The restraining strap, since the knife has a double guard, I would have put the strap on the other side, so that when the person is walking through the brush it has less chance of getting unsnapped by accident, as well as being out of the way when taking the knife out and returning the knife back, lessens the risk of getting that strap cut. Also in making the sheath I would make the lower third close enough from front to back so it squeezes the blade a little bit, adding some friction retention, not a lot, but it helps to keep the knife in the sheath a little better.

    But pretty nice stitching there man, a LOT of work into that one! What size thread did you use for that? I just got some tiger thread 1.2 mm that I'm liking pretty well.

    G2

    here's a link to a short tutorial I did that had to have a pretty thick welt to accommodate the guard that was made for a friend, always be careful when you tell a friend you might help out one day...they tend to remember such things better than you ;)
     
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  5. duramax

    duramax KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Nov 29, 2012
    Wow , thank you so much for all the input :) I will definitely take a lot of that ( probably all ) into consideration on the next one. :)
    I used 1.0 tiger thread on this one but I’ll be stepping up to 1.2 soon. I bonded it together with barge cement and place under 55lbs to keep pressure while curing.
    I did thin the welt toward tip for a little added retention :) Was tough to do as the spine of this knife holds .33 thick more than 2/3rds length !! Knife is a beast lol.
    I doubled my leather at the front for added protection and at belt loop to reduce drag against belt loop, and beef it up :)

    Thanks again for all the info, greatly appreciated as I continue to learn :)
     
  6. Gary W. Graley

    Gary W. Graley “Imagination is more important than knowledge" Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Mar 2, 1999
    Doubling up makes sense and provides security in carry, I've done similar on the back side myself before, as I could just picture someone taking a fall while wearing the knife and wouldn't want it to break through the back and hurt someone, but, I did stop that after a while as it made the sheath heavier and just added to the overall build, but, I always thought it was a good thing safe thing to do!

    One other thing I do, even for the folder sheaths I only make now, is to give the area around the stitching a little extra width of leather, makes for a more secure bond before I go to hammer through the holes for stitching and after it is all stitched up, I carefully cut off the excess and then use my disk sander to even out the welt area so it is all even and smooth. I have a VERY primitive setup for sanding, a motor that is at least 40 years old that turns an even older V belt onto a pulley of an arbor setup, one side is the 9" disk I stick sanding paper on, the other a small drum sander setup for contours. Here's a shot of me cutting off the excess after sewing up this folder sheath, then I take that to the disk sander to even up and also to bevel the edges as well, never want sharp edges on the sheath.

    [​IMG]IMG_1994 by GaryWGraley, on Flickr

    Here's a shot after I trimmed it off and rounded the edges;

    [​IMG]IMG_1997 by GaryWGraley, on Flickr


    I have since changed out the 9" disk thingy, that one was made from a counter top section that we cut out for the kitchen sink, and now I have some thick plexiglass, much better, well, as better as this setup will ever get.

    [​IMG]sander by GaryWGraley, on Flickr

    Also one thing I have changed over the years to is to WeldWood you can get that from Walmart and for my money and some others I've read, works as well or better than barge, that barge cement was costly stuff, this weldwood costs less and for me, just all around better.

    I think Paul Long uses this as well, he even thins it out I think also? But that has been a big savings for me over the years.

    Keep up the great work sir, always good to see someone else with the passion for leather work!
    G2
     
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  7. duramax

    duramax KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Nov 29, 2012
    Thanks again for all the info , much appreciated :)
    This was my first big knife sheath, so I went a little robust lol. I do think on my next one I’ll try to give it a diet :) Plust my next order of leather will be 8-9oz instead of this heavy 10-12.
    I’ll have to give that weldwood a shot, the barge cement can be pricey. For now I have a old 4x36 belt sander with 6” disc attachment.
    I will definitely give all your tips a try :) thanks again for all the advice :)
    Thank you
     
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  8. Dusty One

    Dusty One Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 12, 2004
    That's a big stack of leather....Nice job !
     

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