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Ant Lock Function?

Discussion in 'General Knife Discussion' started by jstn, Apr 7, 2017.

  1. jstn

    jstn Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 27, 2012
    I am always interested in new locks, and have seen a little bit on Youtube about Steel Will's upcoming Ant Lock. It looks interesting, but I am wondering how exactly it works. It looks similar to the Axis lock, but I have read it functions differently. I am wondering if it relies on a spring still, similar to the omega spring? Will it have comparable strength to the Axis? Any info is appreciated!
     
  2. Mo2

    Mo2

    Apr 8, 2016
  3. dwdickey

    dwdickey

    261
    Feb 14, 2014
    Interesting concept but with no liners I don't see it being any stronger or better than what's currently out ther, just a different take on how to do it.
     
  4. evilgreg

    evilgreg Why so serious?

    Dec 25, 2012
    Well, their video does show their linerless G10 knife holding 155 lbs more than the 45 lbs a Sebenza fails at in the same test, so I'd guess it's plenty strong enough for use and probably saves some weight too, not a bad thing.
     
  5. Lapedog

    Lapedog Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 7, 2016
    G10 is actually very strong. I have seen plenty of knives where the blade has snapped before their g10 handle did.
     
  6. jstn

    jstn Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 27, 2012
    I agree with this. I have no worries with the strength of liner-less G10 knives. I was able to find some previous discussion of this lock here on the forums, and it seems the Ant lock is essentially a modified back lock with a stop pin, similar the Triad, but with a Axix-lock-type lock release so it is easier to actuate. I really like the concept, and if it allows room for wear like the Triad, and I definitely see one of the Ant Lock models in my future.
     
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  7. Mo2

    Mo2

    Apr 8, 2016
     
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  8. anthonycastorena2014

    anthonycastorena2014

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    Nov 27, 2014
    I’m at blade in Atlanta. Drove here from Texas. I handled it. It’s pretty awesome! I almost bought that prototype in the video above. They offered it to me for $500........ no thanks. But it was a neat lock to say the least.
     
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  9. jstn

    jstn Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 27, 2012
    Sweet! It is a minor miracle that this lock is still coming to fruition. $500 doesn't seem like a great way to get their new lock into the hands of the public unless it is on some less expensive models too.
     
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  10. unwisefool

    unwisefool Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 22, 2007
    I was just thinking about this the other day and wondering what had become of it. Is it just one model coming out and you know when we can expect it?
     
  11. Mo2

    Mo2

    Apr 8, 2016
    The video says they hope December iirc. Looks like a few models but not sure how many different ones.

    The large price of the cf one is obviously a deal. I doubt they make those in production due to cf being expensive and it's 3d milled with great detail. I want one but only if it's around $300. They would have to produce alot to hit that price point.
     
  12. SpySmasher

    SpySmasher Lead Guitar Platinum Member

    Sep 1, 2016
    They are definitely having some kind of issue with the production, though. They had originally announced it for December of last year, iirc. I emailed them in January about it and they told me they would have an announcement in February which never came. Now they are saying December of this year.
     
  13. anthonycastorena2014

    anthonycastorena2014

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    Nov 27, 2014
    They said 3 months.
     
  14. Misanthropia

    Misanthropia Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 10, 2011
    I'm keeping my Ant Lock vaporware tinfoil hat on until this model is available at retailers. I can't for the life of me figure out why this is causing so much of a headache for their Italian OEM. I get that it's a new lock, but it appears to be derivative of the Axis lock/bolt lock. Maybe it's unnecessarily complex?
     
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  15. Pilsner

    Pilsner Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Oct 28, 2017
    Might not be related to the lock mechanism but to any number of logistical problems. Having spent some time in Italy, I often quote an Italian friend who, when discussing the difficulty of getting big projects launched on time, said, “Have you tried just going to a post office to send a parcel?” ;) Still, it’s a great country.
     
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  16. Misanthropia

    Misanthropia Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 10, 2011
    One would hope the Maniago Knife Consortium that formed recently would make things a little better organized but I'm not sure Maserin (who as I recall does the OEM work for Steel Will) is part of said consortium.
     
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  17. Mo2

    Mo2

    Apr 8, 2016
    I don't think maserin is part of the new group. But yea it could be any number of reasons. Honestly I don't think it even matters when they release it.
     
  18. NJBillK

    NJBillK Custom Leather and Fixed Blade modifications.

    Mar 27, 2014
    This wouldn't be hard to accommodate, and I can't see it not being factored in. A simple gradual ramping lock face would accomplish this.
     

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