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It was so easy to be patient about the 18" FF when it was on order. Now that its on its way here I'm a wreck. Here are the specs Yangdu has informed me of.

Chandan wood handle.
Made by Bura.
24 ounce.

Sounds so good I can't stand it. I love the other Chandan wood handles I've seen. I could have stood for another few ounces, but as is I just can't wait to feel the blade in hand. The mailman has come and gone today, so it'll be Monday before I get to grip it. (I have them delivered to my work.) Why was it so much easier to wait before I knew it was coming so soon?
 
You won't be disappointed. I love my FF! My example is sort of a transitional model with brass fittings and a habaki bolster. The brass actually looks good with the white saatisal handle.

My scabbard split,but that was OK. I had Terry Sisco recover it with some nice brown leather! He made me a custom frog with a retention strap for it; the whole rig is awesome.
 
Here are the specs of the one I ordered:

Foxy Folly by Bura with the following specs: 20 inch overall length, 6 inch handle length with 3 inches behind and 3 inches in front of the raised finger ring. 28 ounces target weight - not less, but maxumum of 30 ounces. Traditional bolster. Don't remember the type of wood in the picture but don't want chandan or saatisal.

Also requested full edge hardening from cho to tip.

We"ll see how close Bura comes to doing all of this.
 
Stilgar, do you have a picture of the white Saatisal handle you can post ???
 
stilgar said:
You won't be disappointed. I love my FF! My example is sort of a transitional model with brass fittings and a habaki bolster. The brass actually looks good with the white saatisal handle.

My scabbard split,but that was OK. I had Terry Sisco recover it with some nice brown leather! He made me a custom frog with a retention strap for it; the whole rig is awesome.

having seen that wildly known post about making a random kukri into a good camp/survival knife, and redoing the sheath/etc, i've been thinking about that too...

especially the sheath. if one were to take the standard sheath, round off the sharpish metal point on the end, and then paint the whole thing with tool-dip or rhino-guard like material - it would be watertight, ruggedized, non-sharp, matte, quiet... possibly adding a tip cord or various other loops for securing things, ala "tactical". mmmm. possibly before the coating phase, put something over the edge where the blade is, to prevent/slow down cut through - kydex or kevlar or ... then coat it. shiny.

bladite
 
I have no clue how to post pictures Maybe I can check with the wife. She is my technical consultant on computer issues.
I'm sorta computer impaired.
 
Hdwrlover that sounds like a winner of a plan too. I think 18" is the perfect length for me though. My 20" Jange seems to big for a user.
 
hdwrlover said:
Here are the specs of the one I ordered:

Foxy Folly by Bura with the following specs: 20 inch overall length, 6 inch handle length with 3 inches behind and 3 inches in front of the raised finger ring. 28 ounces target weight - not less, but maxumum of 30 ounces. Traditional bolster. Don't remember the type of wood in the picture but don't want chandan or saatisal.

Also requested full edge hardening from cho to tip.

We"ll see how close Bura comes to doing all of this.

Good luck! I have asked for one special order with specifics and that basically said "BGRS with X handle material." I was afraid to get any more specific as I had seen some of the errors that come after mistranslation. Bura got the handles perfect, but I wish now that I had asked for a standard bolster. I have a drawerful of BGRS's and all have habaki's. Still, they are great workhorses and it's just an appearance thing.

I got one of the FF prototypes, and I think yours will come in very close to that if you get it right. Mine is about 21.5" and 29 oz. The handle fits me perfectly so I was happy about that. I always prefer longer handles if I can get them.

Of all the FF models, my favorite and the best made is the 17" 34 oz. prototype that Dan had (Yvsa has one as well) by Sher. Dan gave it a nice sharpening job and satin finish, but the overall fit and finish and balance is a bit better than the 17" 24 oz. Bura one I ended up getting from the prepay order. Of course that is comparing apples to oranges because of the weight difference. It is a bit too heavy for long use, although that extra 10 oz. makes it a fearsome chopper.

Norm
 
aproy1101 said:
Hdwrlover that sounds like a winner of a plan too. I think 18" is the perfect length for me though. My 20" Jange seems to big for a user.

But your Jange if I recall correctly is about 24 oz. Must be very manuveurable right ?
 
Yes, Astro, my Jange is 24 0z if I recall. It doesn't matter because it is definitely extremely manuverable.:p I think its the long handle. The thing feels lighter and faster than any of my Khuks. And boy does the blade ring like a wine glass when you steel it. WOW. What I meant when I said it was too big to be a user was that its length (20 in) would make it an inconvenient belt knife, and so wouldn't be my choice for hiking/camping. I'm not Satori's size, that's for sure.

I had some pine trees down during the last "ice storm" here and used it, and my 18" GRS, and my CAK to reduce the pile. What fun!:p The Jange needs lots of handle refiting for my hand (fun project I'm looking forward to), and there is so much rouge caked into the poores I'll have to get an engine degreaser to get it all out. Performance wise it transmits more vibration than either of the others. Suprise, the CAK wasn't the worst in that stat.

The GRS quickly became my favorite when chopping limbs. It is certainly the sweetest thing I've ever used for that purpose.

Today is the day I expect my FF to arrive! I went to Tandy this weekend for leather and tools recommended by Dan. I have an Idea in my mind for the scabbard I plan to make for it much like Yvsa's. Yvsa...do you mind me making something similar?:o I have finished the Karda and Chakma in with purpleheart handles for it, and I wait anxiously to chop something up with it. Please God let the zombies attack my work today. Once they have finished off my boss, I'm going to have lots of fun with the FF.:D
 
I'm OK....I can make it....where is the mailman??? Why is he late when I'm waiting like this? It's a conspiracy I tell you. Oh the humanity!
 
What is worse. It took the mailman till 2:45 to get here, and now there is so much activity around here I can't open an 18" knife!:mad:

Box looks good. Large and rectangular. Brown...

This sucks. When are they going into the meeting?...........:barf:
 
aproy1101 said:
What is worse. It took the mailman till 2:45 to get here, and now there is so much activity around here I can't open an 18" knife!:mad:

Box looks good. Large and rectangular. Brown...
For God's sake, man. Wrap the box up in your coat and go to the bathroom. This can't be good for your heart.;)

Tom.
 
Ok. Finally. WHAT A KNIFE. No matter how much I looked at the pictures of a FF I wasn't prepared. Believe me I looked at the pictures a LOT!!!!:rolleyes: Thank You Yangdu!!

Boy is it a beautiful blade. It rings when you thump it too. My Jange does that. I had to sneak the box into the warehouse and hide in a corner to open it. That Chandan is some pretty wood (my favorite on a Khuk so far). My first impression of the handle is that its too big for my hand. Pretty wood. And I'll have to refine the rings when I do the handle treatment. Pretty wood. Pretty wood. Pretty wood!

So, you know I had to swing it. I got a 24" length of 2x4 and chucked it in the vice. Nice. Very little vibration, like swinging a bentley. Definitely my best khuk in that aspect. Didn't bite as much as the 18" GRS (also Chandan:p ), or the 16.5" CAK, but its so light feeling comparitively I didn't expect that. Got through the board with little effort, and no edge damage either (of course, its only pine).

It's just shocking to see that large flat blade. WOW! Bura really is a champ. I ran a file down the edge and its hardened from almost the cho to the tip!!!! Its wearing white metal with a tradidtional bolster, and the cho is within 3/4" of the bolster! Bura signed his initials in his own language, and did the UB very well. It's going to look really good in the water formed scabbard I have planned for it: stained ox blood to match the Chandan, and with the purple heart handled accessory knives I've made for it too.

Also in the box was the Sgt Khadka 10.5" from 01/04! Sgt Khadka is a master, and I don't have another khukuri to match its fit and finish. He even inlaid parts of the beautiful and intricate sword of Shiva with brass! Its Chandan too, so I've got a trifecter of Chandan beauty! And only $45, what a deal!
 
So, Andy....

tell us how you really feel.



Reading your last post was like watching a kid open a Christmas present.

Thank you.
 
I guess you're right, maybe too much caffine today? LOL... If only Santa brought me these when I was young and spent my summers exploring the woods on Grandaddy's farm. Building forts, and making bows, and slingshots, and shooting at turtle's in the pond with my pelet gun when they dared to come up for air! I had KaBar USMC knife that was handed down from my father, and I chopped and dug and pried, and never broke it. Oh the forts I could have built with my Khukuri to do the chopping....

Here I am at work. Still the same guy. My wife (from Ft. Lauderdale) was a little scared when I brought her to Tandy Leather this weekend. She said, "You're turning into a hillbilly sucker!" LOL. I told her she saw the farm even before she said 'yes' on the alter. This knife came from her too...she'll laugh at me when she sees it. She tells my daughter, "We can play tea party while daddy plays with his knives."

Hey she hasn't run off yet, and she even cooks.
 
aproy1101 said:
Today is the day I expect my FF to arrive! I went to Tandy this weekend for leather and tools recommended by Dan. I have an Idea in my mind for the scabbard I plan to make for it much like Yvsa's. Yvsa...do you mind me making something similar?

Please, be my guest Andy, you flatter me as I have no copywrite on the design.:o
But Andy there's a couple of things you need to know before you start making the sheath, and one of the utmost important things is to remember that this is a sheath and NOT a scabbard!!!!!!!!!!!
A sheath can be cut through and otherwise fail you while a scabbard is much less apt to do, so the watchword is to Be Careful!:eek: :o

Lay your Foxy Folly on a piece of brown wrapping paper and draw yourself a pattern. Get it like you want it before you transfer it to the leather or the cardboard first if you decide to make a practice piece, if it were my first one I would do so.;)
You can even glue on up out of cardboard first to get an idea of how many welts you're gonna have to put in on each side.
Of course the spine side will take more than the edged side.
Cut the welts at least a 1/2" wide and 9/16" would be better, makes for easier shapeing and cleanup when you're done.
Mark the sewing or lacing marks about 3/8" from the inside of the welts.
You will need to use the contact cement and glue the welts together and then glue them onto the top and bottom sections of your sheath.
The welts don't have to be cut perfectly but the closer they are to one another the better and easier it is to assemble the sheath.

If I were doing a sheath for the Foxy Folly I would reinforce the top and bottom of the sheath with an ornamented piece of leather about 3" up from the bottom and at least 2" down from the top on both the front and back, makes for a heavier weight to carry around but is a lot safer.
A fancy cut piece in the center for added stiffening on the front would be a plus as well but not absolutely necessary.;)

Drill your holes with a larger drill bit than you think necessary, at least a 1/16" diameter, a 3/32" wouldn't be too large even. You will thank me for this later.;) :D
The reason for the wide width on the welts is so you will have room on the outside to finish sanding the odd bumps and valleys out after the sheath is assembled and so you won't get too close to the previous drilled holes for the thread.
I would use the saddle or double needle stitch the same as I used on the sheath for the As Forged Chainpuri blade I took the artistic license with.
Also be careful when you drill the holes that they are going through straight, easier to do on a dtill press than with a hand drill like I had to use. You don't want to be too close to either edge of the welt but you want to be sure to leave enough along the outside edge for later cleanup. I can't stress that enough and especially for your first sheath.
Your first sheath will give you the needed experience and knowledge to make the cuts closer on any further ones you might make.:)

If you bought any saddle stamps to decorate the sheath with the time to do so is before you glue the sheath up.
Slightly dampen the leather and then let it set until it appears dry. This is called casing the leather.
Casing the leather allows the fibers to expand.
After the leather is cased stamp in the pattern you desire, assemble and sew the sheath.
Once fully assembled smooth the edges preferably on a belt or disk sander.
If you properly cased the leather and got a good burnish with your stamps you may just want to use some Neat-Laq or such on the leather for a finish and then wax with a neutral polish.
If you decide to dye the leather then that's fine as well.
It's nice to use an edge dressing on the edge, it's usually a black dye that leaves a glossy finish.
Use of an edge dressing makes the piece professionally finished.
Unless I happen to really scuff up a piece of leather down past the finish I prefer to use a neutral polish unless I'm using Sno-Seal or the like on it. If I scuff it past the finish then I'll use a colored polish.
A deep Ox Blood finish with the Chandan and Purple Heart handles will be beautiful but then so would the natural tan.
Just remember that the more natural leather is exposed to sunlight the darker it will become.

If any of this doesn't make any sense please feel free to ask any questions.:o ;)
 
Thanks Yvsa. I appreciate the tips. If I glue in the whelps, then should I also water form the scabbard?

I waterformed a scabbard for my JKM last night and now I have some mold, it would seem, on the leather. How do I deal with that? Can I bleach it out? Do I have to start over, or can I just stain over the mold? Why did it mold?

I soaked the leather in luke warm water for 1 hour. Then I coated the knife with pet. jelly and wrapped it with celophane. Then I wrapped the leather around the knife, wrapped a towel around it and clamped it tight around the knife. Today I come home and have mold. What did I do wrong?
 
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