Any chance of an Original Manix Sprint Run in Magnacut?

Good Amazing Lord, Yes please!!!!

A C95, in a upgraded steel, of Any kind!

With Magnacut cut, it would draw Everyone that knows the C95 and ppl that have Zero idea, what it even is or that it exsists/exsisted!
 
Who knows?

I personally find it a bit odd that Spyderco's 1st planned use of MagnaCut (beyond the recent Mule Team release) will be in the pending release of the Native 5 Salt, as announced in the new catalog, which emphasizes MagnaCut's corrosion resistance over toughness and edge retention.

But it is what it is . . . apart from the cost and availability of the steel (among other factors) that would play into making such a decision . . .

If I were to guess what model they would use MagnaCut in next, I think it would more likely be the PM2, as a regular production product, or the Shaman as limited production sprint.
 
sgt1372 said:
Who knows?

I personally find it a bit odd that Spyderco's 1st planned use of MagnaCut (beyond the recent Mule Team release) will be in the pending release of the Native 5 Salt, as announced in the new catalog, which emphasizes MagnaCut's corrosion resistance over toughness and edge retention.

But it is what it is . . . apart from the cost and availability of the steel (among other factors) that would play into making such a decision . . .

If I were to guess what model they would use MagnaCut in next, I think it would more likely be the PM2, as a regular production product, or the Shaman as limited production sprint.
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I think that comes down to the geometry of Spyderco knives. To me, magnacut is basically a slightly less tough, stainless 4v that really shines when you run it super hard (64-65 HRC) and very very thin ( < 0.01" BTE). Is there really a point of using magnacut over something like s30v if you have a production knife at 59-60 HRC and 0.020-0.030" BTE? At that geometry, s30v is plenty tough and you won't be seeing the toughness benefits that magnacut really has to offer.

What is new with magnacut for production knives is the ability to hold an edge around s35vn levels while being nearly as stainless as lc200n. For those customers who live in corrosive environments, this is a massive upgrade from the steels they were previously working with. I don't actually know if your average user would notice a difference between a magnacut PM2 and a S30V PM2.
 
nattynarwhal said:
What is new with magnacut for production knives is the ability to hold an edge around s35vn levels while being nearly as stainless as lc200n. For those customers who live in corrosive environments, this is a massive upgrade from the steels they were previously working with. I don't actually know if your average user would notice a difference between a magnacut PM2 and a S30V PM2.
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In suggesting the PM2 as a more likely next production release in MagnaCut, I was thinking more in terms of marketability than actual/use function -- the same applies to my guess about the Shaman as a sprint.

However, I do find it intriguing that they are currently choosing to market the MagnaCut based on its corrosion resistance, rather than its edge retention and toughness, placing it side by side w/the also pending LC200N UK Penknife and the rest of the Salt line in its current catalog.

It'll be interesting to see direct comparisons of MagnaCut vs LC200N vs H1 in terms of corrosion resistance, edge retention and toughness in the future.
 
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sgt1372 said:
In suggesting the PM2 was a more likely next production release in MagnaCut, I was thinking more in terms of marketability than actual/use function -- the same applies to my guess about the Shaman as a sprint.

However, I do find it interesting that they are currently choosing to market the MagnaCut based on its corrosion resistanance, rather than its edge retention and toughness, placing it side by side w/the also pending LC200N UK Penknife and the rest of the Salt line in its current catalog.

It'll be interesting to see direct comparisons of MagnaCut vs LC200N vs H1 in terms of corrosion resistance, edge retention and toughness in the future.
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Pete from the Cedric and Ada YouTube channel, and Larrin both did a 72 hour sea water concentration saltwater test, and magnacut didn’t seem to show any rust at all. I’ve carried this steel on a boat and I haven’t seen any rust at all. That said, I do wash it down at the end of the day.

I’m guessing the hypothetical corrosion resistance of vanax and Lc200n will beat out magnacut, especially if you put it through a saltwater spray test for weeks. That said, for the average person it should be basically stain proof :)

As for comparisons between magnacut, lc200n and H1, here's how they should go:

Corrosion resistance:
H1 >= lc200n >~ magnacut

Edge retention:
magnacut >> lc200n >> H1

Toughness:
H1 > lc200n (at 59 HRC) >> magnacut (at 62-63 HRC)

Strength at the edge (i.e. able to hold a thin geometry at an extreme edge angle):
Magnacut >> lc200n > H1

Ease of sharpening:
H1 > lc200n >>> magnacut

At least that's what it should look like hypothetically. Let's see what more people are saying as they get this steel into their hands!
 
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sgt1372 said:
Who knows?

I personally find it a bit odd that Spyderco's 1st planned use of MagnaCut (beyond the recent Mule Team release) will be in the pending release of the Native 5 Salt, as announced in the new catalog, which emphasizes MagnaCut's corrosion resistance over toughness and edge retention.

But it is what it is . . . apart from the cost and availability of the steel (among other factors) that would play into making such a decision . . .

If I were to guess what model they would use MagnaCut in next, I think it would more likely be the PM2, as a regular production product, or the Shaman as limited production sprint.
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Magnacut would be good in a Shaman sprint. It’s marketed as a hard-use knife, and MagnaCut offers and improvement in that department. Slap on some black micarta and you have a winner.
 
I’m tickled pink that S45VN is becoming commonplace in the knives, I’m just now enjoying it and K390 for users. I can be patient enough to see what’s in store for Magnacut.
 
MagnaCut is very new and the testing that has been done has been good, but very limited, especially in Real-World-Use. While speculation is interesting, only experience in the field will tell the true story. I imagine if there is good feedback and demand, we'll use the steel on many models over time.

Hi Sgt,

Eric chose to use the Native Salt for a MagnaCut statement. I've read what testing has been done and I believe that While Larrin is very knowledgeable and thorough, he is not one to brag. (Man who beat on own chest knock self over backwards). We too, do our own testing, and Eric Felt that Larrin didn't give the alloy enough credit in his analysis of the corrosion resistance.

sal
 
I’m dying for a MagnaCut folder, and the Native will be a great platform. A manix would be awesome too down the road.
 
jstn said:
I’m dying for a MagnaCut folder, and the Native will be a great platform. A manix would be awesome too down the road.
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Try "googling" Bexar knife" which is a small folder. It is offered w/either 20CV and MagnaCut steel. Earlier today it was out of stock in MagnaCut but I just received a notice a few hrs later that it's now in stock in MagnaCut.

FWIW, the Bexar in 20CV was just rated by Nick Shabazz as the "Best Knife" for 2021.

I thought about buying one in MagnaCut but w/a slightly less than 3" blade it's too small for me to consider but you and others may like it. Besides, I haven't even received my MagnaCut Mules yet and I'm sure that I'd be much happier w/them than I would be w/the Bexar.
 
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sgt1372 said:
Try the "googling" Bexar knife" which is a small folder. It is offered w/either 20CV and MagnaCut steel. Earlier today it was out of stock in MagnaCut but I just received a notice a few hrs later that it's now in stock in MagnaCut.

FWIW, the Bexar in 20CV was just rated by Nick Shabazz as the "Best Knife" for 2021.

I thought about buying one in MagnaCut but w/a slightly less than 3" blade it's too small for me to consider but you and others may like it. Besides, I haven't even received my MagnaCut Mules yet and I'm sure that I'd be much happier w/them than I would be w/the Bexar.
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Thanks for the heads up! I snagged one in MagnaCut. I’ve wanted a nice slip joint for awhile, so it’s the perfect excuse.
 
To the OP: Eric Glesser was recently carrying a Manxi 2 in MagnaCut. Not sure if a sprint/exclusive is in the works, and not the original Manix the thread is about, but might be the closest thing we see. Let’s hope they make a bunch!
 
jstn said:
To the OP: Eric Glesser was recently carrying a Manxi 2 in MagnaCut. Not sure if a sprint/exclusive is in the works, and not the original Manix the thread is about, but might be the closest thing we see. Let’s hope they make a bunch!
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Yeah I saw that. Kinda disappointing but hopefully they will do a small run of original Manix’s someday.
 
Well if we can’t get an original Manix back, how about removing the UNNECESSARY jimping all around the handle on the Manix Xl?.

I’m not understanding why it was added to this knife in the first place when the original didn’t need it.

It really ruins the look and feel of the knife in my opinion :-)
 
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