Any good flipper out there in Magnacut yet?

Knives&Lint said:
Hinderer just went live on the website with a batch of Jurassics. I may kick myself later but I'm letting them pass, clicking refresh and watching them disappear (orange is still left too!). As much as I love the Jurassic, my 20CV version that has accompanied me on so many adventures has served me so well that I'm just not inclined to pull the trigger. Plus, I don't personally perceive any need to rush, for if this steel is what I believe it to be there will many future opportunities.

Now...Somebody please hurry up and buy out the orange before I change my mind ;)
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60-61hrc though, no one's favorite range for it
 
ElementalBreakdown said:
It's not a very special anything. I haven't just read Larrin's final release info, but have read most stuff he's published over the last few years.

It's just very well balanced. It should replace many of the current steels, but only because it's slightly more balanced. You are not going to see any difference in every day use compared to a dozen other balanced steels.
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Being well-balanced is a thing and doing it well is good. Beyond that, it does have exceptional corrosion resistance above and beyond M390 or S110V.
 
tony281sc2 said:
S30V and S35VN were also made specifically for knives. I haven’t tried any magnacut yet, but other than some extra corrosion resistance, how is it better than the other 2 steels? Holds an edge better? Easier to sharpen?
I am Genuinely curious, since S35VN is probably my current favorite steel, because it is so well balanced, between edge retention, sharpenability, corrosion etc. I really don’t even need the extra edge retention of M390 or 20CV for my current knife use. Ease of sharpening is underrated these days, since most things in life now are meant to be disposable. Many of the knives people on here buy are made to last a lifetime.
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Why magnacut is so good
Edge retention and toughness of 4V. As stainless as S35VN and 20CV. Twice as tough as S90V. Better edge retention than s35Vn, s45vn and ELMAX. Magnacut can reach a hardness of 64hrc. Watch the video man it’ll give you some insight.
 
NadrojSnevets said:
As stainless as S35VN and 20CV.
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As I said in the post above this one, it is actually more stainless than that. It is stainless enough for use in the Salt series and you really need to go to specialty steels like LC200N or Vanax to see better corrosion resistance.
 
Chronovore said:
Being well-balanced is a thing and doing it well is good. Beyond that, it does have exceptional corrosion resistance above and beyond M390 or S110V.
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As corrosion resistant as 20CV, twice as tough as s90v, holds an edge better than S35VN, S45VN, ELMAX, VANAX, CruWear, 4V, 3V, and holds an edge almost as well as M4.
 
The main benefit to MagnaCut is the improvement in toughness over the previous stainless steels while also having the same wear resistance (this is one of the fundamental tradeoffs in steel, it is difficult to improve one without reducing the other). Having higher toughness also means you can go for higher hardness if desired. And yes the corrosion resistance is also very good.
 
ElementalBreakdown said:
It's not a very special anything. I haven't just read Larrin's final release info, but have read most stuff he's published over the last few years.

It's just very well balanced. It should replace many of the current steels, but only because it's slightly more balanced. You are not going to see any difference in every day use compared to a dozen other balanced steels.
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It's special because it is so well balanced. We haven't seen anything like it in respect to being very good at edge retention, toughness, and corrosion resistance. That is special.
 
tony281sc2 said:
Not a very tough steel

Nope
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I have 10-11 knives in MagnaCut and I’ve used it quite a bit. From experience, it holds an edge better than S35Vn, 3V, and Cruwear. Too close to tell with S45v and Elmax. It’s really close to being what it’s advertised to be: a stainless 4V. Where it shines is that the added toughness over S35vn, M390, etc. allows for a thinner edge without chipping. And a thinner edge equals better edge retention in real-world use as opposed to on paper. Poorly heat treated Magnacut, like any steel, isn’t too special.
 
jstn said:
I have 10-11 knives in MagnaCut and I’ve used it quite a bit. From experience, it holds an edge better than S35Vn, 3V, and Cruwear. IToo close to tell with S45v and Elmax. It’s really close to being what it’s advertised to be: a stainless 4V. Where it shines is that the added toughness over S35vn, M390, etc. allows for a thinner edge without chipping. And a thinner edge equals better edge retention in real-world use as opposed to on paper. Poorly heat treated Magnacut, like any steel, isn’t too special.
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I don’t own anything in Magnacut, but I was just referring to Dr. Larrin’s own testing. S45VN and Elmax have better edge retention, apples to apples: and I understand the whole HT thing. I also know that it allows for a thinner edge. Fact is, companies are going to (at least for now), not change the thickness of their folders just because it is offered in another steel.
Case in point, the new Hinderer half tracks and Jurassics (and Project X). Are those knives now offered in thinner blades than the usual .165” ? I’m not 100% sure, but I would be VERY surprised. (Same deal with the new CRKs).
To be clear, I am NOT knocking these brands, (Hinderer and Zt are my 2 favorites). This will be true for every knife offered in Magnacut that is not a completely new design.
Edit to add: one huge benefit I could imagine with Magnacut is that I’m guessing it’s easier to sharpen than those other steels like S45, Elmax etc …? In my experience the tougher a steel is, the easier it is to sharpen.
 
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tony281sc2 said:
Edit to add: one huge benefit I could imagine with Magnacut is that I’m guessing it’s easier to sharpen than those other steels like S45, Elmax etc …? In my experience the tougher a steel is, the easier it is to sharpen.
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I use a Wicked Edge and can't tell the difference between sharpening Elmax and Magnacut. They're both very easy to sharpen.
 
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