Any interest in the Case #63? I like Ike

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The Case #63 aka the Eisenhower pattern




So I've been drawn to the senator pen patterns since I was a kid, my second knife and first Case knife was the #6201, a smaller version of the #63. Not very much talk about the #63 here on the forum, I carry a peanut everyday but I also throw a #63 in either my shirt pocket or my left front, it's a great little knife.
I tried to find out if Ike really carried a #63 pattern and what I discovered is that I think someone not familiar with the Case numbering system and many years prior to the internet and vast amounts of information at our finger tips misinterpreted and reported what Ike really carried. I found two of his knives both are #6333 the Case #33 small stockman, I am guessing who ever reported Ike's knife most likely was not a knife nut, said it's a small pen knife generically speaking how most would refer to any small knife and it has a #63 on the tang, but what Ike really carried was the Case #33 small stockman and Case's system the 6 being jigged handle and the 3 being 3 blades. I read somewhere during Parker years Case reintroduced the #63 as the Eisenhower pattern but can't seem to find that info so....?
I did read that he did give away the #63 what the is known as the Eisenhower so it is possibly just a coincidence that the prefix to his stockman is 63 and the knife he eventually would giveaway is the pattern #63, so there is a connection to the #63 pattern.

"During the late 1950’s, President Dwight D. Eisenhower arranged a three-day fishing trip to Quonset Point Naval Air Station in Rhode Island. He had five sailors convert a PT boat into a fishing vessel. At some point during the trip, the President gave each of the five sailors an 08263 Eisenhower pattern, handled in mother of pearl."

So as there are no rules for knife nuts, I'm sure Ike had more than one knife, perhaps he carried it latter in life after he started to gift the patten but here are some pics of Ike's knives.







Anyway the history is not the reason for this thread but found it interesting, if someone wants to add some facts that would be cool, the main reason for this thread is to see if anyone else likes and carries/uses the #63 Eisenhower knife, or are most sold to collectors? I would love for Case to do a Chestnut bone version in Cv, I'm always on the lookout for a older Cv version.





Thanks for reading my loose interpretation
Pete
 
Very interesting info!!! Where did you find the pictures of Ike's 6333 patterns?

I can add the following. IIRC Parker is the one who associated the Eisenhower name with the 63 pattern. However, the first pattern that Parker had made up with the Eisenhower etch was indeed the 6333 pattern. I recall that pretty well, though I no longer have any documentation of the knife/knives issued. I recall that the 6333 was a red bone version with SS blades and was a limited run from 1989 or 1990. Then some time after that maybe still during the Parker years, Case put the Eisenhower name/etch on the 63 pattern and that has been "the" Eisenhower pattern since then.

I also recall a quote from RN Farquarson, former Case sales manager in the 1950's and later the president of Case, that he had heard that Ikes favorite was the "62063" which is in reality a slightly different pattern. The 62063 is a sleeveboard pen. Whether RNF just misspoke I do not know.

Lastly, you would have to go back to the Case Tested era pre WWII or the early Case XX era 1949-1950 to find an 05263 or 06263 in CV. I have a Case XX stamped non-stainless 06263 in red bone in my collection and its a rare one to find.
 
I'm not a Case collector or user but I came across one in my collection. Perhaps you can I.D. it for me?
The Case is a tiny Ike that I found while wadefishing Indian Creek. I thought it was a tosser until I got it home and cleaned it up, but it is nice for a Case. ;)

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The "river-find" 3 1/8" Case I nearly tossed. Sucker is near to mint once cleaned. Even retained the full Eisenhower sig blade etch. Pocket blade is marked dot-square-dot-square-dot over Casexx underlined, square-dot-square-dot-square beneath that. Pile side of other pen blade is marked 06363 over SS. I don't know what it all means.

Michael
 
Codger_64 said:
I'm not a Case collector or user but I came across one in my collection. Perhaps you can I.D. it for me?
The Case is a tiny Ike that I found while wadefishing Indian Creek. I thought it was a tosser until I got it home and cleaned it up, but it is nice for a Case. ;)

2ntuy5x.jpg


The "river-find" 3 1/8" Case I nearly tossed. Sucker is near to mint once cleaned. Even retained the full Eisenhower sig blade etch. Pocket blade is marked dot-square-dot-square-dot over Casexx underlined, square-dot-square-dot-square beneath that. Pile side of other pen blade is marked 06363 over SS. I don't know what it all means.

Michael
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Hi Michael, when I was writing this up I was thinking you where going to have some great insight:)
Anyway do you think what you are seeing as squares are blown out X's , does the tang stamp look like this?

If so 2000, don't know if this is any help?
Pete
 
cilohaefink said:
Very interesting info!!! Where did you find the pictures of Ike's 6333 patterns?

I can add the following. IIRC Parker is the one who associated the Eisenhower name with the 63 pattern. However, the first pattern that Parker had made up with the Eisenhower etch was indeed the 6333 pattern. I recall that pretty well, though I no longer have any documentation of the knife/knives issued. I recall that the 6333 was a red bone version with SS blades and was a limited run from 1989 or 1990. Then some time after that maybe still during the Parker years, Case put the Eisenhower name/etch on the 63 pattern and that has been "the" Eisenhower pattern since then.

I also recall a quote from RN Farquarson, former Case sales manager in the 1950's and later the president of Case, that he had heard that Ikes favorite was the "62063" which is in reality a slightly different pattern. The 62063 is a sleeveboard pen. Whether RNF just misspoke I do not know.

Lastly, you would have to go back to the Case Tested era pre WWII or the early Case XX era 1949-1950 to find an 05263 or 06263 in CV. I have a Case XX stamped non-stainless 06263 in red bone in my collection and its a rare one to find.
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Thanks I had thought also that they originally released a #33 as the Eisenhower but couldn't find any reference, so I omitted it from my original post, I tried to find the link to the photos but can't seem to find them right now, there was documentation and certificates, it may have been the Library of Congress, not sure and for some reason can't find the link.
Thanks for the added info

Pete
Ps one of these days I'll track down a older carbon
 
Stich2442 said:
Hi Michael, when I was writing this up I was thinking you where going to have some great insight:)
Anyway do you think what you are seeing as squares are blown out X's , does the tang stamp look like this?

If so 2000, don't know if this is any help?
Pete
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Knife is small I am blind. Yep, that is most likely it. Thanks. I found it in circa 2005-6 and it appeared to be new, unused when lost.
 
Great pics Pete, I really like the small stockman case. That's my latest hunt.
 
I don't have an Ike in my collection, but I'm seriously considering picking this one up from an online retailer...I do have a thing for yellow Delrin, and this pattern should be a great addition....

 
cilohaefink said:
Very interesting info!!! Where did you find the pictures of Ike's 6333 patterns?

I can add the following. IIRC Parker is the one who associated the Eisenhower name with the 63 pattern. However, the first pattern that Parker had made up with the Eisenhower etch was indeed the 6333 pattern. I recall that pretty well, though I no longer have any documentation of the knife/knives issued. I recall that the 6333 was a red bone version with SS blades and was a limited run from 1989 or 1990. Then some time after that maybe still during the Parker years, Case put the Eisenhower name/etch on the 63 pattern and that has been "the" Eisenhower pattern since then.

I also recall a quote from RN Farquarson, former Case sales manager in the 1950's and later the president of Case, that he had heard that Ikes favorite was the "62063" which is in reality a slightly different pattern. The 62063 is a sleeveboard pen. Whether RNF just misspoke I do not know.

Lastly, you would have to go back to the Case Tested era pre WWII or the early Case XX era 1949-1950 to find an 05263 or 06263 in CV. I have a Case XX stamped non-stainless 06263 in red bone in my collection and its a rare one to find.
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Can't find the link but I saved this, this info was with the pictures pictures of the 33 pattern, notice that it's documented incorrectly as the #63 pattern



Case Pen Knife owned by President Eisenhower, 2 5/8î closed. President Eisenhower first purchased a three blade 63 pattern Case knife from a dealer in Texas. He liked the knife so much that he purchased more than one and, at times, presented the pen knife to friends. Due to his genuine interest in the knife, Case began referring to this pattern as the Eisenhower and is still sold by the company with the signature ìDwight D. Eisenhowerî etched onto the master (widest) blade. The pen knife here offered shows evidence of use. Etched onto the master blade are the initials ìD.D.E.î Accompanied by an 8.5î x 11î Certificate of Authenticity signed ìDavid North,î stating: ìMy mother, Helen Weaver North, was General Dwight D. Eisenhowerís personal secretary at NATO Headquarters in Paris from 1951 and his secretary at the White House from 1953-1957. This is to certify that the pen knife pictured below was given by President Eisenhower to my mother.î Chief Yeoman Helen E. Weaver was General Dwight D. Eisenhowerís personal secretary at NATO Headquarters in Paris from 1951 and his secretary at the White House from 1953-1957. According to William J. Hopkins, Executive Clerk of the White House Office (1931-1971), in a 1993 interview with Paul K. Carr published in Carrís philographic study ìThe Eisenhower Filesî (Mattituck, NY: Amereon House, 1997), Helen Weaver was one of two secretaries who signed President Eisenhowerís name to letters (Ann Whitman was the other).

Dwight Eisenhower personally owned pen knife. 63 pattern Case brand knife carried by Ike contains three fold-out blades, with master blade engraved, ''D.D.E.''. The company has even developed a line of such knives named after Eisenhower for his affinity for them.

Pete
 
I worked for a large knife dealer at the gunshows, I bought three ,two harvest orange and a red bone . My grandsons each got one , they are a perfect smooth pocket knife . That red bone was as good a finish as case made . A red bone CV could replace my peanut if they made it. Yes I do like ike !!! Jake
 
Alnamvet68 said:
So the Case #63 or 6333 is really a small Stockman...have I got it right?:confused:
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Case uses last two #'s as pattern number so 33 is the small stockman
#6333 broken down 6- jigged handle, 3- number of blades, last 33 pattern, Ike's knife pictured above is a #33 small stockman, what Case sells as the Eisenhower is the equal end senator pattern #63
Hope that helps

Pete
 
Will the real iKeNife please stand up

Case 6333 Bone handle 3 blade Small Stockman 2 5/8" (believed to be what Ike actually carried, and called a Franklin Roosevelt small stockman)
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Case 8263 Mop handle 2 blade 3 1/8" Pen Knife aka Eisenhower model (the ones he gave away)
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62063 1/2 3 1/16" Sleeveboard (62063 is often used to refer incorrectly to the 06263 equal end)
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CASE 3 KNIFE PRESIDENTS SET. THE SET CONSISTS OF A NATURAL SMOOTH BONE WASHINGTON PEANUT (W220 SS),
EISENHOWER PEN KNIFE (B62063 SS),
FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT SMALL STOCKMAN (6333)
(note none of the knives are correctly placed on the President whose name they carry, although the knife Ike actually carried is correctly placed)

In conclusion, Eisenhower carried a 6333 Roosevelt stockman,
Case president Farquarson claimed Eisenhowers favorite was a sleeveboard pen 62063
Case sells an equal end pen they call the Eisenhower model 6263 (often mislabeled as a 62063)

Stich carries an Eisenhower (the kind Ike gave away, not the kind Ike actually carried) and a Washington (which he actually did not carry)

George Washington Carver, famous for real Peanuts, is not the same guy as President George Washington
http://nationalpeanutboard.org/the-facts/george-washington-carver/

this is just my attempt at understanding the confusion, please elucidate as needed

What did Ike use his 3 little blades for :-)
 
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1965-69 red bone XX Ike and 1989 stag XX Ike, both SS. I bought the stag one in 1989 and carried almost every day for around 5-6 years. I think I had 4 Case knives at the time. It was a pretty darned good EDC. I located the red bone one about three years ago.:)

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