Any interest?

So in other threads I see people asking about getting "small batches" of blades cut for them and being told it isn't cost effective. These seem to be about 5-10 blades. At what number of blades would having you cut, heat treat and surface grind be cost effective? I see 19 in your picture above...
 
You might look at Peter's as a pricing model with a flat rate followed by tiers.

The more I think about it the more I think I would take you up on it. Especially to have sets cut out of your 15n20.
 
I would be interested! Would like to use thin stock 0.060" AEBL, but gotta have them stay straight.
 
So my folders are designed up in draftsight.your saying I can send you the pdf, and you'll cut it, heat treat and surface grind it?
 
valknut said:
So my folders are designed up in draftsight.your saying I can send you the pdf, and you'll cut it, heat treat and surface grind it?
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Yes that’s what I’m saying. We will pop the holes with the plasma. We can drill them out also if that’s required.

cotdt said:
I would be interested! Would like to use thin stock 0.060" AEBL, but gotta have them stay straight.
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I would say we have a rock solid heat treat for AEBL. It’s been a LONG road to get where we are but I am very proud of what we can do with AEBL. I’m not saying warps won’t happen but I am saying it’s gotten to be a very rare thing. I just did a batch of 23 blades for a customer and thy all came out nice and straight. We also can hit some high hardness numbers. 62rc is easily attainable and higher if you desire. We top out around 63.5-64rc after our first round of tempering cycles. Then adjust down to your desired hardness. AEBL is quite picky but I have come to love it in a weird sort of way. Which is good considering 90% of the blades we do are AEBL lol

If your worried about bows then use a slightly thicker material and we will surface grind it. If a really bad bow crops up then I surface peen it and then surface grind.
 
I think it’s a great idea! I would do like a monogramming shop does- charge a one time fee per design to have it professionally converted to the right format for your machine.
 
JTknives said:
First off sorry I have been absent. I have been really slammed with heat treating. This has made us take a hard look at where the shop is going and where we want it to be. It seams like everyone wants to send us AEBL. Which is not bad as we have a rather solid process for it.

This brings us onto what we are thinking of offering going into the new year. We are thinking of buying a cnc Plasma. We are also wanting to keep AEBL and possibily others in stock. This will allow you to order a blade(s) and we will supply material, do the heat treat and do surface grinding if wanted. This will save you guys money as your not having to pay for shipping besides from us to you.

This is not a for sale thread. We are just wanting to see if this is something you guys would be interested in.

Thanks guys - JT
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I would be interested. I do a lot of ABEL.
 
Great idea and I would definitely like to work with you!
 
JTknives said:
Yes that’s what I’m saying. We will pop the holes with the plasma. We can drill them out also if that’s required.



I would say we have a rock solid heat treat for AEBL. It’s been a LONG road to get where we are but I am very proud of what we can do with AEBL. I’m not saying warps won’t happen but I am saying it’s gotten to be a very rare thing. I just did a batch of 23 blades for a customer and thy all came out nice and straight. We also can hit some high hardness numbers. 62rc is easily attainable and higher if you desire. We top out around 63.5-64rc after our first round of tempering cycles. Then adjust down to your desired hardness. AEBL is quite picky but I have come to love it in a weird sort of way. Which is good considering 90% of the blades we do are AEBL lol

If your worried about bows then use a slightly thicker material and we will surface grind it. If a really bad bow crops up then I surface peen it and then surface grind.
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I agree AEBL is awesome stuff, I think mostly due to the sulfur being half of most other steel types, but heck, it also works for the hitachi papers eh?

It's amazing you get such good hardness numbers with a 0.67 c steel - keeping to 60-62 after temper is super

my only wish sometimes is that aebl had even a half point of van, (that silly wootz video has me hooked on v)

I'd definitely be interested, good ideas
 
im pretty sure nitro-v is aebl with a touch of vanadium
 
I've been looking into doing stainless. Either AEB-L or CPM, or both. As well as a place to do my profiles. Doing both as a one stop shop is an excellent idea!

Only thing is I'm on the east coast and wondering how much your services would run. As I have already found a place locally that will do heat treat, but still looking for a place to send my steel for profiling. At the moment I'm looking at heat treat for a flat rate of $100, no max or minumum number of blades (locally). Still have to get pricing for how much it will cost me to have blades profiled locally.

Shipping shouldn't set me back much using flat rate. But if your pricess are competitive I'm definitely interested.
 
yes, nitro-v, good point, I still wish it had like 0.5% v instead of only 0.08% ... but yeah, on the whole great stuff, it's also super low (lower in fact) in sulfur
JT do you do the exact same HT on nitro-v? Or does it need a tiny bit higher temp?
 
OccamsBlade said:
I've been looking into doing stainless. Either AEB-L or CPM, or both. As well as a place to do my profiles. Doing both as a one stop shop is an excellent idea!

Only thing is I'm on the east coast and wondering how much your services would run. As I have already found a place locally that will do heat treat, but still looking for a place to send my steel for profiling. At the moment I'm looking at heat treat for a flat rate of $100, no max or minumum number of blades (locally). Still have to get pricing for how much it will cost me to have blades profiled locally.

Shipping shouldn't set me back much using flat rate. But if your pricess are competitive I'm definitely interested.
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Who ever you pick to do your heat treat make sure thy know how to handle AEBL. It is VERY picky in how it’s processed. If that place you have found local is just a normal heat treating facility then I would approach with caution. I’m not saying anything bad about them as I don’t even know who thy are. I just know it has taken me a TON of time to perfect my process for AEBL to where it is today. It is no where near just pop it in the oven at 1950-1995° and quench. So all I’m saying is just do your research befor you send you blades out.
 
JTknives said:
Who ever you pick to do your heat treat make sure thy know how to handle AEBL. It is VERY picky in how it’s processed. If that place you have found local is just a normal heat treating facility then I would approach with caution. I’m not saying anything bad about them as I don’t even know who thy are. I just know it has taken me a TON of time to perfect my process for AEBL to where it is today. It is no where near just pop it in the oven at 1950-1995° and quench. So all I’m saying is just do your research befor you send you blades out.
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It's called Fireball Heat Treating I think. I talked with the owner for about a half hour. Really nice guy, and sounds like a smallish operation compared to the other places in the area, that didn't even bother to get back to me. Apparently they do a lot of the heat treating for local makers, and when knives come in it's a pretty big deal. Sounds like they really enjoy doing knives. They've even done work in exchange for knives, haha.

He did say up front that they prefer doing CPM over AEB-L though, but that they're setup for any type of heat treating. That's why I want to send mine out, to have it done right and get the most out of my steel.
 
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