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I don't think my request for common courtesy warrants such a derogatory reponse.
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If your latest response in WC making fun of the mentally handicapped running in the special olympics is your idea of courtesy, then you don't deserve any.
JR
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I'll try to get in there tonight, right after work!
Man, this is exciting! See you there... "Woohoo"
By the way, Happy April 'PhoolL's' Day!
Mel
Man, this is exciting! See you there... "Woohoo"
By the way, Happy April 'PhoolL's' Day!
Mel
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Gotta go with Jeremy on this one, that Special Olympics shot was in poor taste.
I get booted out of chat around once outta ten visits. I'm the kinda guy who needs booted once in awhile, so I don't mind. Nobody should take the boot personally. I don't think anyone gets abused too badly, but that is my opinion.
Don't go in there drunk. I don't think I ever hit my backspace button so many times. Shoulda been tossed out on my can for that one, but I didn't suffer any ill effects from the membership. I'd recommend BFC Chat to anybody. All you have to do is bring a sense of humor with ya.
I get booted out of chat around once outta ten visits. I'm the kinda guy who needs booted once in awhile, so I don't mind. Nobody should take the boot personally. I don't think anyone gets abused too badly, but that is my opinion.
Don't go in there drunk. I don't think I ever hit my backspace button so many times. Shoulda been tossed out on my can for that one, but I didn't suffer any ill effects from the membership. I'd recommend BFC Chat to anybody. All you have to do is bring a sense of humor with ya.
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Is that in response to this?
I've suggested several times there should be a Kiddie BFC Chat room, maybe Danelle would like to be the Den Mother.
You think that's derogatory?
If you do, no wonder you don't like the Chat room. I just offended you without even trying.
Danelle, I'm sorry you took it that way. I'm sure we'll all miss you in Chat.
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I'm gona stay outta the current conversation, and put a plug in for PalTalk. Lately there are 10+ folks in the room every night. Everything from beginners to us "old farts". We have a great time, and everyone is welcome! You can usually catch most folks there starting at around 6-7pm MST.
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To Danelle's Defense:
I've been known to visit the room frequently, and been harrassed and kicked pretty much relentlessly for usually the first 40 minutes or so i'm there. In spite of my disappointment i've learned to blow this off most of the time, but it makes my experience that much less enjoyable. It has come to the point where I usually check my notify list to make sure someone I want to talk to is on because otherwise I don't like the hassle of going to the bladeforums chatroom. Also there are indeed people with ops who shouldn't have them, most specifically Sus, who I've done my best to "hash out" my problems with and have met with absolutely no reciprocation. Now let's be real here... it's been admitted by pretty much everyone on these boards at one time or another that the social acceptance of knives has been falling at a staggering rate since a mere 30-40 years ago and I see it as genuinely counterproductive to consistently haze the vast majority of visitors to the channel, it makes you guys come off as a bunch of pricks and a lot not worth running with (in spite of the fact that for most people attending the bladeforums channel this isn't the case). I've been personally disappointed that, being one of the youngest bladeforumites, I'm so often the target of the harassment going on in the Bladeforums, from a logical standpoint I would think someone looking to start getting into knives early would be welcomed with open arms the way the pro-gun lot does, seen as another asset. Instead, if I listened to some of the hazers in the BFC channel, i'd be under the impression that I was unworthy of encroaching upon "your hobby". I guess it's a good thing I don't listen to people's bull, otherwise I would've given up on knives long ago.
You can dispute it all you want, but I know how *I'VE* been treated, I know by whom, and I know that the attempts to lock down Danelle for speaking up about the problems, calling everyone disappointed and saddened by them as "thin-skinned", isn't going to gain you a shred of credibility. Face it, you have a problem, i'd ask you to deal with it.
I've been known to visit the room frequently, and been harrassed and kicked pretty much relentlessly for usually the first 40 minutes or so i'm there. In spite of my disappointment i've learned to blow this off most of the time, but it makes my experience that much less enjoyable. It has come to the point where I usually check my notify list to make sure someone I want to talk to is on because otherwise I don't like the hassle of going to the bladeforums chatroom. Also there are indeed people with ops who shouldn't have them, most specifically Sus, who I've done my best to "hash out" my problems with and have met with absolutely no reciprocation. Now let's be real here... it's been admitted by pretty much everyone on these boards at one time or another that the social acceptance of knives has been falling at a staggering rate since a mere 30-40 years ago and I see it as genuinely counterproductive to consistently haze the vast majority of visitors to the channel, it makes you guys come off as a bunch of pricks and a lot not worth running with (in spite of the fact that for most people attending the bladeforums channel this isn't the case). I've been personally disappointed that, being one of the youngest bladeforumites, I'm so often the target of the harassment going on in the Bladeforums, from a logical standpoint I would think someone looking to start getting into knives early would be welcomed with open arms the way the pro-gun lot does, seen as another asset. Instead, if I listened to some of the hazers in the BFC channel, i'd be under the impression that I was unworthy of encroaching upon "your hobby". I guess it's a good thing I don't listen to people's bull, otherwise I would've given up on knives long ago.
You can dispute it all you want, but I know how *I'VE* been treated, I know by whom, and I know that the attempts to lock down Danelle for speaking up about the problems, calling everyone disappointed and saddened by them as "thin-skinned", isn't going to gain you a shred of credibility. Face it, you have a problem, i'd ask you to deal with it.
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It saddens me you feel that way.
So be it...
So be it...
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Hi there
well ol Ren the devils trailboss goes to the BF chat under handle Cornsales. well yep its me two names. I dont know why. back in the ol Rec. Dot knife days everyone knew me as cornsales so i figgured if I was chatting I would return as corny. Well I signed on after a two year break from chatting and was lunged on by several suspicious chatters that I was a troll. I was grilled to name a knife. I listed 15 of em and was accepted. Acutally it was kind of funny and and I said "I didnt expect a spanish inquisition" which brought a laugh. Frankly people, I think we all got to remember that Chat is a 24 hour a day B.S. session and its fun for about 20 minutes for me unless Im drunk or we can start talking trash about loafers, sex, beer, or any other sorted topic. I left chatting because 1. I was getting pissed of about stupid stuff that didnt matter a pile of pooh. (for example some moron said that my sebenza was a hack production folder....gasp!)
2. the same boring Bull s@#@t every nite.
3. the same turds chatting every nite.
4. my wife was getting pissed at me glued to the gateway with you bastids instead of her.
well anyway after therapy, a lobotomy, and a weekend at a swing club I agreed to give it a rest. I pop in occassionally but Im not giving up my day job for chat. Danelle I agree with your points 100% but chat is still just a bunch of horse flop in my opinion.
and by the way. My sebenza is not a hack production folder LOL see I knew I would get the last word in!!
Ren
well ol Ren the devils trailboss goes to the BF chat under handle Cornsales. well yep its me two names. I dont know why. back in the ol Rec. Dot knife days everyone knew me as cornsales so i figgured if I was chatting I would return as corny. Well I signed on after a two year break from chatting and was lunged on by several suspicious chatters that I was a troll. I was grilled to name a knife. I listed 15 of em and was accepted. Acutally it was kind of funny and and I said "I didnt expect a spanish inquisition" which brought a laugh. Frankly people, I think we all got to remember that Chat is a 24 hour a day B.S. session and its fun for about 20 minutes for me unless Im drunk or we can start talking trash about loafers, sex, beer, or any other sorted topic. I left chatting because 1. I was getting pissed of about stupid stuff that didnt matter a pile of pooh. (for example some moron said that my sebenza was a hack production folder....gasp!)
2. the same boring Bull s@#@t every nite.
3. the same turds chatting every nite.
4. my wife was getting pissed at me glued to the gateway with you bastids instead of her.
well anyway after therapy, a lobotomy, and a weekend at a swing club I agreed to give it a rest. I pop in occassionally but Im not giving up my day job for chat. Danelle I agree with your points 100% but chat is still just a bunch of horse flop in my opinion.
and by the way. My sebenza is not a hack production folder LOL see I knew I would get the last word in!!
Ren
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Here is the difference as far as I can tell:
Bladeforums has a number of different forums inluding Whine and Cheese. No one expects any respect in whine and cheese. It is mostly just a bunch of friends getting together to grip, write about fun stuff, etc. It is acceptable to be more risque, rude, and even gross in Whine and Cheese. What is acceptable in Whine and Cheese would not be tolerated in Community or Shop Talk.
The mIRC (Bladeforums chat) is alot like Whine and Cheese. Enter at your own risk. It is not a place to always specifically talk about knives. Everything under the sun is discussed including knives. It is a group of friends that enjoy knives that get together to hang out.
Again Phil's analogy of a neighborhood bar is so appropriate. You would not expect to interrupt a bar conversation with a group of people and always be greeted with open arms. They are a great bunch of guys who are very supportive and friendly if you fit in.
I entered PalTalk last night and had a wonderful time. They are a great bunch of guys that are very tolerant of un-miked newbies. It is very interesting to actually hear and speak the conversation.
PAL Talk is (as far as I can tell from my one trip) a group of mostly pounders (forging type bladesmiths). They get together to specifically talk knives. They are alot like Shop Talk at Bladeforums.
They are also a great bunch of guys that will be happy to tell you as much as possible about knives. Even as tolerant as they are, I suspect if you don't fit in even they will not give you any reason to stay (they may just be a bit more polite about it).
Both seem to be great places to hang out. Both are very different and not everyone will fit in. (Gee, just like Bladeforums)
If neither of these Chats interest you, maybe you should start your own Chat. If there are enough like minded people, it will become a fun place to hang out.
Pam
(I don't post often in the forums inless its impotant)
Bladeforums has a number of different forums inluding Whine and Cheese. No one expects any respect in whine and cheese. It is mostly just a bunch of friends getting together to grip, write about fun stuff, etc. It is acceptable to be more risque, rude, and even gross in Whine and Cheese. What is acceptable in Whine and Cheese would not be tolerated in Community or Shop Talk.
The mIRC (Bladeforums chat) is alot like Whine and Cheese. Enter at your own risk. It is not a place to always specifically talk about knives. Everything under the sun is discussed including knives. It is a group of friends that enjoy knives that get together to hang out.
Again Phil's analogy of a neighborhood bar is so appropriate. You would not expect to interrupt a bar conversation with a group of people and always be greeted with open arms. They are a great bunch of guys who are very supportive and friendly if you fit in.
I entered PalTalk last night and had a wonderful time. They are a great bunch of guys that are very tolerant of un-miked newbies. It is very interesting to actually hear and speak the conversation.
PAL Talk is (as far as I can tell from my one trip) a group of mostly pounders (forging type bladesmiths). They get together to specifically talk knives. They are alot like Shop Talk at Bladeforums.
They are also a great bunch of guys that will be happy to tell you as much as possible about knives. Even as tolerant as they are, I suspect if you don't fit in even they will not give you any reason to stay (they may just be a bit more polite about it).
Both seem to be great places to hang out. Both are very different and not everyone will fit in. (Gee, just like Bladeforums)
If neither of these Chats interest you, maybe you should start your own Chat. If there are enough like minded people, it will become a fun place to hang out.
Pam
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The only people I have seen get truely pissed off about chat are the ones who don't like the flow of things. They come into the room thinking it should only be about knives, and cry and throw a fit when it isn't. I have been a regular in chat for a while now, and multiple regulars now weren't there when I started chatting. People come and people go. Some of the old regulars aren't there much anymore, some due to personal conflicts and some due to other priorities.
The chat group may be a bunch of crude, hard nosed turds. People always get the 20 questions drill when they come in, due mostly ugto past experiences of hackers and warez spammers causing problems with chat members. While we can be fiesty and rowdy, you will NEVER find a bunch of more helpful people anywhere. Just ask around to the number of knife makers who have received tons of help regaurding all their knife questions. Hell, L6 bugs Kit and Rob S every night and I don't think I have heard them ever complain or refuse to help him out. If you can not be a crying sissy throwing a fit because things aren't done the way you want them to be in chat, then you will love the place. And Phil is right, kicking is just a joke in there, especially with auto-join. Banning is rarely ever done, and most of the time is reversed right after it's done. Whenever someone is ban from chat, usually the other members talk that person into getting over it and un-doing the ban.
As far as connection problems, getting kicked from a channel doesn't kick you from your mIRC connection. All it does is kick you out of the channel, your connection is not bothered.
I encourage all new people who want to chat to swing on in tonight. Just be sure to let us know who you are, especially if you are not registered with your BFC name. Just kick back and have some fun, that is what chat is for.
The chat group may be a bunch of crude, hard nosed turds. People always get the 20 questions drill when they come in, due mostly ugto past experiences of hackers and warez spammers causing problems with chat members. While we can be fiesty and rowdy, you will NEVER find a bunch of more helpful people anywhere. Just ask around to the number of knife makers who have received tons of help regaurding all their knife questions. Hell, L6 bugs Kit and Rob S every night and I don't think I have heard them ever complain or refuse to help him out. If you can not be a crying sissy throwing a fit because things aren't done the way you want them to be in chat, then you will love the place. And Phil is right, kicking is just a joke in there, especially with auto-join. Banning is rarely ever done, and most of the time is reversed right after it's done. Whenever someone is ban from chat, usually the other members talk that person into getting over it and un-doing the ban.
As far as connection problems, getting kicked from a channel doesn't kick you from your mIRC connection. All it does is kick you out of the channel, your connection is not bothered.
I encourage all new people who want to chat to swing on in tonight. Just be sure to let us know who you are, especially if you are not registered with your BFC name. Just kick back and have some fun, that is what chat is for.
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Pam,
I have always respected your ideas and opinions so don't take this wrong way. But if #Bladeforums.com is going to be a live "Whine and Cheese" then it had best be marketed as one, not as a general chat or a live extension of the actual BladeForums themselves. I rather enjoy going on here (the site), with lots of civil folk and all kinds of interesting information and fun loving people. Truth is the BFC channel has many fine folks like yourself, I think it is just plagued by two or three overly dominant goons who don't know when to quit. For example, samhell has been known to razz me from time to time, but within reasonable limits, in spite of common belief I can "take a joke" - but when I have to take the same damn joke of being coined a brat or being kicked over and over constantly, it gets rather old, and hardly amusing.
To be honest the idea of starting my own little channel for perhaps a more "friendly" knife chatting experience appeals to me... but i'm not really sure if it'd be appropriate to setup "competition", perhaps I could do a chan on DALnet and folks who know how to behave could be in both if they wanted to, like yourself.
I have always respected your ideas and opinions so don't take this wrong way. But if #Bladeforums.com is going to be a live "Whine and Cheese" then it had best be marketed as one, not as a general chat or a live extension of the actual BladeForums themselves. I rather enjoy going on here (the site), with lots of civil folk and all kinds of interesting information and fun loving people. Truth is the BFC channel has many fine folks like yourself, I think it is just plagued by two or three overly dominant goons who don't know when to quit. For example, samhell has been known to razz me from time to time, but within reasonable limits, in spite of common belief I can "take a joke" - but when I have to take the same damn joke of being coined a brat or being kicked over and over constantly, it gets rather old, and hardly amusing.
To be honest the idea of starting my own little channel for perhaps a more "friendly" knife chatting experience appeals to me... but i'm not really sure if it'd be appropriate to setup "competition", perhaps I could do a chan on DALnet and folks who know how to behave could be in both if they wanted to, like yourself.
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Well said Pam.
I wouldn't mind visiting PalTalk, the problem is the program doesn't work for a Mac.
To be honest the idea of starting my own little channel for perhaps a more "friendly" knife chatting experience appeals to me... but i'm not really sure if it'd be appropriate to setup "competition", perhaps I could do a chan on DALnet and folks who know how to behave could be in both if they wanted to, like yourself.
Cutter, my thoughts exactly a Kiddie BFC Chat Room!
I wouldn't mind visiting PalTalk, the problem is the program doesn't work for a Mac.
To be honest the idea of starting my own little channel for perhaps a more "friendly" knife chatting experience appeals to me... but i'm not really sure if it'd be appropriate to setup "competition", perhaps I could do a chan on DALnet and folks who know how to behave could be in both if they wanted to, like yourself.
Cutter, my thoughts exactly a Kiddie BFC Chat Room!
Danelle I am fully aware of your time at Spyderco and when you started coming to chat. BFC chat started some time before that. As JR said geting the boot does not disconect from irc just the room you are booted from. As for who has ops and why has nothing to do with posting here, in fact the op who has posted the least just happens to post in this thread. To tell you the truth I cannot remeber you ever being booted out of the room. And really most people who are don't have a problem with it and if they do that is why they are booted again. If you don't like the chat don't come in.
YoungCutter, I have ops yes i do. I dont abuse the use of theses powers its ur imagination,you are a spoiled little know it all brat that gets on my last nerve I am glad u mentioned my name, flattery will still get u no where 
If u cant stand the heat stay out of the kitchen, Oh and by the way i am not the only one that kicks ur sorry hiney out of the chat room Have A Nice Day Sincerely the op from hell!!!
If u cant stand the heat stay out of the kitchen, Oh and by the way i am not the only one that kicks ur sorry hiney out of the chat room Have A Nice Day Sincerely the op from hell!!!
calyth
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Let's be fair here:
I've been to the chat room a couple of times, and wasn't treated as badly as some of you have described.
Yes I'd admit the kicking was a tad annoying, but it had happened to me on other chatrooms and my client was already on auto-rejoin. It's not that big of a deal. I've only got kicked once and there wasn't anything to it.
The people in there are pretty nice and help out when you ask questions, or just chatting away. I just don't see it as big of a problem as some sees it.
If Spark did make an official room, yeah, we'd all be a bit polite, but the chatroom was never official at the first place and I like it the way it is.
I've been to the chat room a couple of times, and wasn't treated as badly as some of you have described.
Yes I'd admit the kicking was a tad annoying, but it had happened to me on other chatrooms and my client was already on auto-rejoin. It's not that big of a deal. I've only got kicked once and there wasn't anything to it.
The people in there are pretty nice and help out when you ask questions, or just chatting away. I just don't see it as big of a problem as some sees it.
If Spark did make an official room, yeah, we'd all be a bit polite, but the chatroom was never official at the first place and I like it the way it is.
Dannele quit belly aching when you got booted the other night it was a damned joke and you did NOT get knocked off of irc.
and as for those people that you are referring to the one you are talking about does post on blade forumn i have seen posts
as for Sparks and the firewall
i use a firewall sparky and im on cable with the firewall set to highest security
its possible to get on there
i know for awhile there i couldnt get on there either till i figured out what to do with the firewall so it would let me
and as for those people that you are referring to the one you are talking about does post on blade forumn i have seen posts
as for Sparks and the firewall
i use a firewall sparky and im on cable with the firewall set to highest security
its possible to get on there
i know for awhile there i couldnt get on there either till i figured out what to do with the firewall so it would let me
HermanKnives
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Christians are the worst hypocrates i know. they mean bastards but if they show up at church on sunday then all is ok.
I am the powers that be there so why dont you ask me this stuff? Why ask Phil? I will be totally honest with you too if you can take it. Who do you think should be an op and who should not and how do you know who would make a good op and who wouldnt? i dont remember ever "hashing" this out with you because i dont know your "oping" experience, so thats bs. Lots get ops simply because they been around for a long time and it means something to them. I would wager 90% dont actually know what all an op could and should do but its not that big of a deal.
you come around and act like a worldly woman with answers for everything and you call me elitist and intolerant?? I remember you getting uptight about me giving someone a little shit one night and making snide comments to me. Chat is like W&C, you cant take a little ribbing then stay home and cry.
Or maybe it could be you that YOU just dont fit in?? NAH what was i thinking?? its just us elitist intolerant pricks with ops. maybe you would have more fun ther if you werent constantly looking down your nose at us?
as i have said to anyone on the net, you dont like our chat room, start your own, its easy.