anybody have a diagram/drawing of a Papa Bear heater?

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I read that involves a coffee can, toilet paper and rubbing alcohol and that it can be run inside a car since there's no carbon monoxide produced when said alcohol burns.


Can anybody help me visualize the set-up?

Could a regular oil lantern be filled with alcohol to the same effect?

Thanks.
 
SkinnyJoe said:
I read that involves a coffee can, toilet paper and rubbing alcohol and that it can be run inside a car since there's no carbon monoxide produced when said alcohol burns.
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I have seen a roll of toilet paper soaked in alcohol and burnt in a coffee can sitting on bricks to warm a deer stand. It does however give off carbon monoxide and I would not do it in an inclosed car. Chris
 
I stand corrected, it does not give off carbon monoxide, that is very good to know.:thumbup::thumbup: Chris
 
That is good useful info. Thanks.

It says that 4 pints of alcohol can be stored in a car up to 24 hours at 60 to 70 degrees. so you can carry more if you want. That is kind of vague.

What happens to alcohol at 80-90 degrees in your car? or at freezing?
Can you store alcohol in your car for long periods of time?
 
"Yessir Ossssifffer! Them gallon jugs of Ever Clear are part of my slurvival gear. (hic!) Doncha see the coffee can and the TP?"

-- FLIX
 
chrisaloia said:
That is good useful info. Thanks.

It says that 4 pints of alcohol can be stored in a car up to 24 hours at 60 to 70 degrees. so you can carry more if you want. That is kind of vague.

What happens to alcohol at 80-90 degrees in your car? or at freezing?
Can you store alcohol in your car for long periods of time?
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chrisaloia, you may want to reread that. it says that 4 pints will be enough fuel to keep a car warmed to 60°-70°F, not that the fuel will be okay to store in a vehicle at said temperatures.

-- FLIX
 
Interesting. In my neighborhood we simply don't get winter conditions that serious. Great simple idea.

Even if it doesn't give off carbon monoxide, it will give off CO2 and burn up the available oxygen. So some ventilation would be essential.

People commit suicide by putting a plastic bag over their head. They use up the oxygen and eventually build up the CO2 to a level where the gas mix will no longer sustain life.
 
I hope I'm writing this before any of you guys die, but... If there's a flame in the car, whether it's giving off carbon monoxide or not, that flame has to be eating up oxygen. It has to be vented, or someone's gonna die. Am I missing something here?
 
FLIX said:
chrisaloia, you may want to reread that. it says that 4 pints will be enough fuel to keep a car warmed to 60°-70°F, not that the fuel will be okay to store in a vehicle at said temperatures.

-- FLIX
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Yeah! thanks. I read it as it will keep in a car at.... . Not keep a car at......60-70 degrees DUH!

but is it safe to keep in your car?
 
Okay...I jumped in here quickly because it seemed so dangerous. Since then, I went and read the instructions for the stove. It does say it needs ventilation. It should say it in big bold red letters at least 2 or 3 times.
 
If the temp goes up, the volume goes up, so you might rupture the container. That's especially dangerous because of how hard it is to see alcohol's flame. I don't know about where you are, but Canadian standards (CMVSS) don't allow combustion appliances to draw cabin air. Same is true of boats and RVs. Food for thought...

Personally, I like to store other alcohol products at 98.6 degrees...and the container is biodegradable !:D
 
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