anybody here ever have there balis taken by cops?

Disecter is on a roll!:D
I have been pulled over before for no real cause. Just asked why I was being searched and the asked for his badge number ad he left before I could get it. Anyway most of the officers are pretty cool here.(Sorry if I miss letters, my keyboard is jamming) We have one that patrols my neiborhood and he thinks my bali is "nifty". Heeven played us in Basketball.:p
 
right: so... yeah. i've been stopped and searched on the street without giving probable cause (a couple years ago). then again, appearing very different from the star football players in high school didn't help, i'm sure.
anyway, i declined the officers' request to search me, as did the fellows i was wih, and the officers' response was to insinuate that he would arrest us for disorderly conduct (which we had not exhibited). we were scared, so we agreed, and a friend was cited for underage possession of tobacco. luckily, this event occurred before i became a serious knife knut.
yeah, sorry that this didn't have much to do with knives. just thought i'd shed some light on why many kids/people are leery of LEOs. i know several cops personally, and they're friends of mine, but i still find it difficult to trust such strangers who can so readily abuse their power.
peace.
aleX.
 
Well I must say some people get lucky. When I was stopped they didnt give us a choice in being searched. Of course we asked what was going on and for more details but they refused. One thing I sure as hell wont do is try messing with a cop. When it breaks down to it its your word against theirs. If youre lucky being right gets you out in trial, if not well... Its one thing to be right its another thing for them not to care whether not youre right and keep going anyways.
 
I've had a few friends that had their bali's taken, but then again, some cops just give a warning not to carry them. I personally have stopped carrying balisongs. Its too difficult to find replacements if they're confiscated. Nowadays I just stick to liner-locks, which are easier ( and in some cases less expensive ) to replace.
 
Actually, Hearing all this disappoints me greatly in some of my "brothers in blue". I can only speak from what I see happening from Officers I come in contact with. I notice one thing intresting though, sounds like noone who's replied has actually been charged w/ Carrying a concealed weapon, and it's because in most of the instances the officer knows it would be kicked out. Nevertheless their will be instances(wrong place wrong time) where there will be P.C. to search you, like if you fit a description or something and in that case just remember one thing Attitude goes a LONG way and HOPEFULLY the officer will use his discretion and realize it's the person not the tool that is the real threat.I guess bottom line and my original point is, if your knife or whatever is confiscated, get a property sheet and a report number.
 
I'm not a balisong person, and it is unlikely I ever will be. Nevertheless, IMO, the biggest problem in most of these anecdotes, at least where the LEOs involved asked about weapons, the answer should always be, "NO."

Your knives are tools. Should the situation ever require self defense, then hopefully the knife/knives you are carrying possess some ability to serve as weapons. But, until that point, they are not weapons. So, truthfully say, "NO."

I used to watch the TV show COPS frequently. I was always amazed by the almost universal affirmative response when people are asked if the officer(s) may search the car. One show was on state troopers. They were on the lookout for cars which appeared to have high mileage, driven by non-white individuals. This was the sole basis for "probable cause." They checked the odometer to verify the high mileage, then asked to search. They obviously knew what they were doing, because invariably the car was muling drugs. But, if the driver had said, "No" to the search request, nothing would have come of the stop. Of course, with the TV camera rolling, the officers weren't about to do anything illegal. I can't help but wonder though, about those cars stopped when there was no journalist present.

A year or so ago, an expose was done on both the Louisiana State Police and small town gendarmes on a major highway crossing several counties. An extraoardinarily high percentage of the stops and searches, etc, were flat illegal. Of course, that state has always had a problem with corrupt police.

One of my friends is a retired LEO. He works as an investigator. He knows the laws better than most active LEOs. Frequently when he is performing surveillance, in a jurisdiction where the police are not highly thought of, or it is known that one or more members of the force are related to the subject, he not only says, "No." He says, "Hell no! and get out of my face." He has many friends among LEOs, and a few enemies. But nobody has had the hair to take him in.
 
There's a big difference between a "search" and a "frisk". The police don't need "probable cause" to stop you and frisk you for weapons. A Terry stop can be made if an officer suspects that a law is being broken, and a frisk (officer pats down outside of clothing searching only for weapons) can be done if there's a reasonable belief that the suspect is armed.

Try a Goggle search with words like "Terry", "stop", "frisk" and "probable cause" for more info than you would ever want on the subject. Here's one overview: http://faculty.ncwc.edu/toconnor/frisk.htm
 
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