Anybody know a lot about shotgun slugs?

[fulloflead]

You are disappointing me, here I thought you would have a witty response
and all you have is this? Sheeesh.

I've got a bad habit of watching/reading too much news. During times like these it gets to me sometimes. Wasn't feeling clever.

Why don't you pray for me and we'll call it even. (he-he)

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[fulloflead]

I'd suggest staying away from all the new super slugs and just going with a plain old 2 3/4" rifled slug, or reduced recoil slug. In a youth sized 20 gauge, a flatter shooting slug that hits harder at 150 yards isn't going to gain you any real advantage. It probably doesn't have good enough sites to let you judge holdover and make accurate shots at longer ranges anyhow.
To top it off, the recoil might not be enough to stop you from shooting, but it will probably be hard to control. I think this is even more important with a single shot, as you already have more time involved in a follow up shot. And instead of only having to get the gun back on target, you have to have the presence of mind to get the gun open, loaded and closed, and then back on target. The last thing you want in an emergency situation, is to be trying to do that with a gun that rocks you back a step and makes your arm go numb.
Another thing to think about is what choke your barrel is. I know its fixed, and thats why its important. Its not really recommended to shoot slugs through a full choke.
You might look into a carbine in a pistol caliber. A lever action in .357 or .44 mag would be much better for the role you're wanting to fill, and might work out real well if you have a side arm in the same caliber.

Well-thought-out advise. Thanks. I AM kind of a revolver junkie, so it would definately make sense in my case. Hey, what range are lever action .357s and .44s accurate to on say, watermellon ( ) sized targets?

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[fixer27]

I've got a bad habit of watching/reading too much news. During times like these it gets to me sometimes. Wasn't feeling clever.

Why don't you pray for me and we'll call it even. (he-he)

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I could pray for you much more effectively if my conscience was clear due
to the knowledge that you had given to the relief effort.

pacem meam do vobis.

 

[fulloflead]

I could pray for you much more effectively if my conscience was clear due
to the knowledge that you had given to the relief effort.

I'm working on that. Watch for a fundraiser sale by me in the Productions for Sale forum soon.

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[fixer27]

I'm working on that. Watch for a fundraiser sale by me in the Productions for Sale forum soon.

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Fo'l, please keep in mind that there can be no auctions over this, only
donations.

And for the love of Pete, quit winking at me,people will talk.

And as far as your 20 gauge, if you don't want to pour a ton of money into
it but still want to use it, think about making the front sight glow in the
dark. I had a single shot H&R 12 gauge and my plan was to use it to fire
then drop it and go to a Glock.

 

[fulloflead]

Fo'l, please keep in mind that there can be no auctions over this, only
donations.

Yeah, I know. I asked in the Tech forum.

And as far as your 20 gauge, if you don't want to pour a ton of money into
it but still want to use it, think about making the front sight glow in the
dark. I had a single shot H&R 12 gauge and my plan was to use it to fire
then drop it and go to a Glock.

That's kinda my thought too.

No more winking? How about some tongue action?

-Jim

 

[fixer27]

Yeah, I know. I asked in the Tech forum.



That's kinda my thought too.

No more winking? How about some tongue action?

-Jim

As it says in Psalms "beware the wicked people who mock and stick out
their tongues"
And those Dragon's Breath rounds put on quite a show on the 4th or New
Years day.

 

[fulloflead]

As it says in Psalms "beware the wicked people who mock and stick out
their tongues"

LOL! I'm not wicked.

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[fixer27]

LOL! I'm not wicked.

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That would depend on who I asked.

 

[Cougar Allen]

what range are lever action .357s and .44s accurate to on say, watermellon ( ) sized targets?

It's not a rifle. Even asking about range indicates you should be looking at a real rifle, IMHO. Pistol-caliber carbines have the advantage of low cost but there are good rifles available in the same price range. Ammunition compatibility sounds cool and it really is important to an army but it isn't as useful for an individual.

Look into an SKS. You'll probably want to put an American-size stock on it, but it's still cheap. Factory ammo is cheap and reloading supplies are readily available....

 

[Matt Shade]

It's not a rifle. Even asking about range indicates you should be looking at a real rifle, IMHO. Pistol-caliber carbines have the advantage of low cost but there are good rifles available in the same price range. Ammunition compatibility sounds cool and it really is important to an army but it isn't as useful for an individual.

Look into an SKS. You'll probably want to put an American-size stock on it, but it's still cheap. Factory ammo is cheap and reloading supplies are readily available....

Nope not a rifle, but it will let you hit your target much more reliably out to 100-150 yards than the shotgun will, and offers easier handing and follow up shots. Don't have the exact numbers either but I'm betting a hot loaded .44mag (from a rifle) has close to the same punch inside 150 yards as an SKS.
A rifle caliber would be preferable, but for SHTF you probably won't be trying to pick stuff off at 500 yards anyhow, depending on the area. Maybe out in the desert where line of sight is that far, but its a much better practice to avoid contact and confrontation whenever you can. Even if it it goes to total anarchy, not eveybody is gonna be the enemy and you have to be able to identify them and their intentions.

 

[Runs With Scissors]

Well-thought-out advise. Thanks. I AM kind of a revolver junkie, so it would definately make sense in my case. Hey, what range are lever action .357s and .44s accurate to on say, watermellon ( ) sized targets?

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I used to have a Marlin 1894 .357 Carbine when I was a kid. It was shot five times the first year I had it. Four of them killed one deer each. Most at the 75-100 yard range. Funny...it was illegal for me to hunt with that rifle too...

When I got around to taking it to a range I found that with 158 grain Federals it'd shoot an inch and a half group @ 100 yds all day.

Here's a thread you might find intriguing about the velocities out of such a rifle in .357 http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=180522

My wife is currently considering one.

 

[fulloflead]

I've also got an 8mm Mauser (sporterized,bolt acton/stripper clips) in the closet I haven't shot in 18 years. Maybe I ought to get that out, get it sighted in, and buy some surplus ammo/start reloading for IT.

The thing is, my shooting range is an indoor range with an underground tunnel for 100-yard rifle. Pretty genius, really, if you saw it. I have to take a special certification course to be allowed to shoot in it and I haven't shot ANY rifle except that shotgun in 18 years and don't want to embarrass myself trying to put that 8mm on paper.

Since I'm not "into" rifles I was trying to avoid all that. I should probably just do it.

That 8mm has similar ballistics to a 30-06 and would probably do anything I'd ever need it to.

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